CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #30 *ARREST*

[Trudie]

Killer fiance Patrick Frazee met mistress when they were 18, had a 'hold on her,' was her first love | Daily Mail Online

Updated DM article

"'She had known him since she was 18 years old, right out of high school. I think he had some type of hold on her,' said Patty Rockstahl in an interview with KMVT on Sunday."

"'She was very vulnerable and I think she cared for him, and he took advantage of that… He was her first love, I understand, and… he had a hold on her.'"

This is the biggest pile of bull kaka. So he's her first lover and forever more she blindly does as he wants? Did he put a voodoo spell on her that made all common sense float out of her head?

"'I think she maybe got in over her head, maybe used some bad judgment,' said Patty."

Do you think??!!!!

Or did she take matters into her hands, doing what she wanted? I’m not convinced of nothing, yet. Despite P being jailed. Jmo

 

[Esma]

There’s no reason for WS to stoop to their level

Are you suggesting MSM articles should only reference in initials also? I’m lost here.

 

[Deleted member 718]

I don’t believe a single word of that narrative. Other than using bad judgment.

I absolutely believe this is what KKL said. It's her 'love struck' alibi. Too bad she'll still have to answer charges.

 

[Concernedmamaof3]

Killer fiance Patrick Frazee met mistress when they were 18, had a 'hold on her,' was her first love | Daily Mail Online

Updated DM article

"'She had known him since she was 18 years old, right out of high school. I think he had some type of hold on her,' said Patty Rockstahl in an interview with KMVT on Sunday."

"'She was very vulnerable and I think she cared for him, and he took advantage of that… He was her first love, I understand, and… he had a hold on her.'"

This is the biggest pile of bull kaka. So he's her first lover and forever more she blindly does as he wants? Did he put a voodoo spell on her that made all common sense float out of her head?

"'I think she maybe got in over her head, maybe used some bad judgment,' said Patty."

Do you think??!!!!

Maybe used some bad judgment! Don't mind me- I'll just be in the corner banging my head against the wall.

 

[Artis]

Killer fiance Patrick Frazee met mistress when they were 18, had a 'hold on her,' was her first love | Daily Mail Online

Updated DM article

"'She had known him since she was 18 years old, right out of high school. I think he had some type of hold on her,' said Patty Rockstahl in an interview with KMVT on Sunday."

"'She was very vulnerable and I think she cared for him, and he took advantage of that… He was her first love, I understand, and… he had a hold on her.'"

This is the biggest pile of bull kaka. So he's her first lover and forever more she blindly does as he wants? Did he put a voodoo spell on her that made all common sense float out of her head?

"'I think she maybe got in over her head, maybe used some bad judgment,' said Patty."

Do you think??!!!!

Yeah, it's ridiculous! Imagine you're told that so and so has been solicited to kill someone and then that someone ends up missing and presumed dead. Would you start making excuses for so and so?! THEY DON'T KNOW HER! I really think they're making excuses for themselves. They should have acted, immediately, upon hearing about the plot to commit murder. They failed to do so and now look bad. Too late. There's no saving their reputations after this.

 

[tmar]

ITA ... they should be disgusted and outraged! I can’t imagine learning that these people had any kind of knowledge, and instead of investigating or advising LE, they did nothing to help Kelsey’s situation. The more we heard them speak in these very brief self-serving interviews, the more unbelievable it became. JMHO

With the R's interviews, surely clients will leave.
I would think their business will be in strife, people knowing they 'sat back' with their knowledge initially, and now are broadcasting for all to hear.
MOO.

 

[Deleted member 718]

At most, you should use only the person's intials. The internet is forever, and when baby K grows up, if she Googles names, we don't want to lead her here to read this sadness.

Sadly, the title of this thread leads here.

 

[Mom24]

Killer fiance Patrick Frazee met mistress when they were 18, had a 'hold on her,' was her first love | Daily Mail Online

Updated DM article

"'She had known him since she was 18 years old, right out of high school. I think he had some type of hold on her,' said Patty Rockstahl in an interview with KMVT on Sunday."

"'She was very vulnerable and I think she cared for him, and he took advantage of that… He was her first love, I understand, and… he had a hold on her.'"

This is the biggest pile of bull kaka. So he's her first lover and forever more she blindly does as he wants? Did he put a voodoo spell on her that made all common sense float out of her head?

"'I think she maybe got in over her head, maybe used some bad judgment,' said Patty."

Do you think??!!!!

Also the R's say "She had the phone". How do they know KK had KB's phone? Did she tell them? Did she show it to them?

 

[Concernedmamaof3]

We use initials here, but the articles don’t of course.

Darn it- I am usually good about changing to initials, but just realized I didn't on that one and too late to edit.

 

[Herat]

Are you suggesting MSM articles should only reference in initials also? I’m lost here.

WS is a business. The owners set standards for what they think is accceptable language, photos, outside information, etc.

I respect their integrity and that’s what makes it worthwhile coming here, because they insist on certain kinds of ethical standards. I feel like we participate knowing that innocent people are not allowed to be falsely identified, that unsubstantiated rumors are not encouraged, that the other victims: The family and friends can have some sort of protection from more injury.

MSM may work by different rules. That’s their perrogative

Perhaps you should contact the Moderators and carry on this inquiry with them. I’m sticking to initials

 

[Trudie]

And I hope the hospital she worked at has triple-checked their controlled drug inventory for the month of November... she could have been needed by PF to administer some sort of sedative like Versed, which she would have easy access to. That would render KB absolutely helpless. Maybe he even played on KK by telling her it would be a painless death for KB.

And as it could be traced by toxicology, make the destruction of her remains even more necessary.

Personally, I doubt drugs were used. If so, I’d say BOTH P/KK have well stocked barn med cabinets. They’d have to. I have enough to, well, “kill a horse”, if I wished.
In a hospital, with the WOW & two at a time in pharmacy cabinet, it is more difficult to steal meds, right? (Locally, a nurse was just fired for keeping 4 pain pills rather than dosing her patient. Discovered only after patient asked for his meds. She had an “oops” moment, darn pills were in her pocket. She is an agency nurse, first day at that hospital) .

 

[Artis]

And, lets not forget that Krystal was a married woman for a few years. She allegedly carried a torch for Frazee during those years? Wonder if the ex was aware of this - if it's even true.

 

[mistivon]

Liessssssssss

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Killer fiance Patrick Frazee met mistress when they were 18, had a 'hold on her,' was her first love | Daily Mail Online

Updated DM article

"'She had known him since she was 18 years old, right out of high school. I think he had some type of hold on her,' said Patty Rockstahl in an interview with KMVT on Sunday."

"'She was very vulnerable and I think she cared for him, and he took advantage of that… He was her first love, I understand, and… he had a hold on her.'"

This is the biggest pile of bull kaka. So he's her first lover and forever more she blindly does as he wants? Did he put a voodoo spell on her that made all common sense float out of her head?

"'I think she maybe got in over her head, maybe used some bad judgment,' said Patty."

Do you think??!!!!

Right. She's just as much of a user,as He is.
MOO
It's not like she was fresh out of kindergarten.

 

[Herat]

Right. She's just as much of a user,as He is.
MOO
It's not like she was fresh out of kindergarten.

KK has children of her own. The recklessness of her involvement without concern for the consequences on her own children is breathtaking.

 

[WildcatRunner]

Sadly, the title of this thread leads here.

I was stating the information provided by the mods and WS founder as to why we do it.

 

[Myvice]

Hypothetically, KK could have been after PF for years if she never really got over her "first love". What if PF always told KK that he liked her but she was a married woman and had her own life. What if KK decides to get divorced in 2016 to be with PF, so PF had to quickly find a relationship himself to keep KK from stalking him? What if KK decided that the only way to get to PF was removing KB?

We really don't have much evidence that PF was a bad guy. He ran around with a few women but he wasn't married soo how does that make him different than other single men?

I don't know what to believe. There's so little to go on. I sure hope the solicitation is more than KK telling people he wanted her gone. What if KK decided PK saying we can't be together as long as KB is in the picture was a suggestion to remove her from the picture.

I'm praying LE wouldn't act on something like that fearing the baby might be in jeopardy.

 

[mcrazingwill]

And she's an educated RN.

I think KK is a co-conspirator, not a mere solicitee, and she will IMHO be hit with 1st degree murder as well. I agree with others there is a strong possibility of a 3rd person involved, one whose motive is mere money/valuable items. IMOO LE is pressuring KK for that 3rd player, and neither PF nor KK may know exactly where KB's body went. North of Gooding, Idaho are the Sawtooth Mountains, desolate, rugged, 11,815 foot Castle Peak. KB must have been lost, on the wrong road.

I think shes a co-conspirator also, I'm not falling for this "threatened puppy that was in love with PF" spin. It's also MOO that there is a third person involved. Where I differ is that I think the third person is someone that PF looks up to and trusted, but held no personal stakes in the murder.

 

[Ccging]

I’ve been thinking about “the hold” PF allegedly had on KK, and I think others have mentioned this, but what if that hold were a child?

What if the reason KK did not report PF threatening about “children disappearing from playgrounds” and possibly harm to her child/children is because....

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Hopefully! I really hope that the person they are teasing as coming forward for more interviews this week isn't the BFF.

Let the idiots supply their own ropes. Like cockroaches exposed to light.
MOO