CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #30 *ARREST*

[The Farm]

Since KK lived her entire life within the general Twin Falls, ID area as her address history since she was 18 shows and PF spent his entire adult life in the Florissant, CO area, I don't know how it is they meet in person, right out of high school.

What about the house she lived at in Canon City, what time period was that? She lived in the state at some point but I can not remember when it was exactly.

 

[NoeticSoul]

What about the house she lived at in Canon City, what time period was that? She lived in the state at some point but I can not remember when it was exactly.

That was the wrong nurse. MSM got it wrong. As far as we know KK never lived there.

 

[susiQ]

And even if they met during high school at a little rodeo team event, it doesn't change the fact that they both still lived 700 miles apart their whole lives up to current. She has gone to college, married, divorced, had kids. How does a bond 700 miles away have 'a hold on her' after a few high school road trips 16 years ago? This one takes the cake.

How do you know there were only "high school" road trips? It appears both KK and PF were active in the rodeo life as adults as well. She didn't become Rodeo Queen by showing up once every 10 years. IMHO

 

[UnicornDragon]

What about the house she lived at in Canon City, what time period was that? She lived in the state at some point but I can not remember when it was exactly.

I thought that was an entirely different nurse who was cursed by having the same name? One of the DM being the Daily Fail, since I think they were the first report on that.

 

[The Farm]

That was the wrong nurse. MSM got it wrong.

Ohhhh that's right!!! That poor other person with the same name!

 

[susiQ]

Oh i get it now-- haha! I had accidentally doubled quoted another post on to yours where I said 'I can't answer that question'- that was a reply to a different poster. My bad.

I'm sorry too, but I was feeling some bad vibes All good!

 

[WildcatRunner]

I was told a suspect during questioning (not arrested) can say “I’m gonna kill myself, I’m not going to jail” & an ambulance is immediately called. LE wants the person alive! For future interrogations. Now, in jail if someone is suicidal, they have “suicide watch”. But an unarrested person can’t be thrown in jail ,for stating he might commit suicide.
And, what happens if we call 911, “help John Doe is here, he wants to kill himself”, LE/ambulance arrive
and transport the person to a medical facility.
Moo
Idk where she is. Reportedly, she committed a crime. Msm reported she was questioned, R’s stated she had the phone.
So, did she not have the phone & no involvement? Or, is she holed up where LE can’t access her?

IMO, the latter. The chances of getting more info from her & observing her, monitoring calls, etc., is ZERO if she’s at home. In jail? Much easier. She’s a talker.

I think hospitalization is an option. The other thought I'd have is police DO know where she is, and are in contact with her, but for some reason they are trying to keep her name and location private for the time being. Maybe there's a third key player they're looking for? Maybe KK has a ton of info, and they're protecting her until the figure out who the third player is.

The whole thing is strange...LE is unusually quiet, and there aren't even many rumors swirling around like you'd expect. There's something out of the norm that may shock us all when it's time to know about it.

 

[Esma]

How do you know there were only "high school" road trips? It appears both KK and PF were active in the rodeo life as adults as well. She didn't become Rodeo Queen by showing up once every 10 years. IMHO

That's my point exactly- they could have met at rodeos as adults, not just as high schoolers or 18 year olds.

 

[Jethro4WS]

What about the house she lived at in Canon City, what time period was that? She lived in the state at some point but I can not remember when it was exactly.

Never lived there. The one media report found a KL in Canon City. However that person has lived their entire life in that area and still does, is married currently, and has a different maiden name than the KL (or KK or KKL as people refer to her) in Idaho. A simple lookup in the NURSYS nurse registry shows they are two different people as well.

 

[EyesofTheSouth]

My thought from the beginning is that PF asked KK because he needed to involve someone who had something to gain from KB’s murder.

PF probably had closeby friends who could’ve dumped the phone. But would they stay quiet if police came calling? Probably not, as they’d have nothing to gain and everything to lose.

KK clearly has a thing for PF, or she wouldn’t have driven 1600 miles round-trip to help him out. If she wants PF, then KB is an obstacle to KK getting him. So, she gains if KB “disappears”.

If she doesn’t help, maybe PF doesn’t go through with it - or so she thinks - and KB continues to stand in her way.

 

[Trudie]

Add me to the long list of people who are not buying the "love of her life" bovine excrement. There is something more going on. Maybe a few somethings. MOO

We all perceive things differently. Nothing wrong with that.
Speculating, I will not be surprised to learn KK contacted KB more than once, claiming P belonged to her. If so, I hope KB told her mom there was a third party in her relationship with P. It will surprise me none to learn CB heard of KK, more than once.
IMO, KK loves P enough...,to kill for him.

 

[Esma]

I'm sorry too, but I was feeling some bad vibes All good!

 

[Jethro4WS]

I thought that was an entirely different nurse who was cursed by having the same name? One of the DM being the Daily Fail, since I think they were the first report on that.

That actually came from a TV Station out of Colorado. The same one that reported on the Sonic video.

 

[Deleted member 718]

What about the house she lived at in Canon City, what time period was that? She lived in the state at some point but I can not remember when it was exactly.

That was misreporting by KRDO Shannon Brinias. She had another nurse named KL. But when we checked the license verification, that nurse has a different middle name.
So I think we can scratch any reference to Canon City.

edit as I had the wrong initials. Thanks Jethro.

 

[Aydrianna523]

Why the R's came out.
I think the R's came out because their part was going to come out in the media, and they wanted to make it more palatable by telling their side. What do you call it?....damage control.
So did they think it was all drama and no murder was imminent? I'm hoping do.

 

[WildcatRunner]

And even if they met during high school at a little rodeo team event, it doesn't change the fact that they both still lived 700 miles apart their whole lives up to current. She has gone to college, married, divorced, had kids. How does a bond 700 miles away have 'a hold on her' after a few high school road trips 16 years ago? This one takes the cake.

The rodeo circuit is big, and small, at the same time. Just because they met at a few rodeos in high school does not mean they didn't continue to see either other at more of them in adulthood.

I was not on a high school rodeo team, it was just something we did outside school. Parents would drive us far (700 miles is not out of the question) to some events. If I were still active in this life, I'm sure I would still see several of the same people from 20 years ago at these events in adulthood.

 

[Jethro4WS]

That was misreporting by KRDO Shannon Brinias. She had another nurse named KK. But when we checked the license verification, that nurse has a different middle name.
So I think we can scratch any reference to Canon City.

Named KL not KK.

 

[Esma]

The rodeo circuit is big, and small, at the same time. Just because they met at a few rodeos in high school does not mean they didn't continue to see either other at more of them in adulthood.

I was not on a high school rodeo team, it was just something we did outside school. Parents would drive us far (700 miles is not out of the question) to some events. If I were still active in this life, I'm sure I would still see several of the same people from 20 years ago at these events in adulthood.

I can see that. I just am not sold on them meeting 'at a rodeo' quite yet. It's still just rumor.

 

[Concernedmamaof3]

I haven't had anything new to add lately, but I'm going back to this.

PF asked KK to kill his wife, according to the Rs. Maybe three times.

In my simple and naive mind, I immediately twisted that information into meaning- help PF kill his wife, or more likely cover up the crime. Because why wouldn't PF do it himself? No Cowboy asks a woman to do this for him.

But PF asked KK to "KILL his wife", which is very different than assisting.

Why? Two important reasons this might be asked of KK.

1) PF can pick up the child "as scheduled" with KB, and have a 100% alibi for days. Stop at a store in WP with the child on his way home. Get gas in Divide. Keep phone on during travels, and enjoy Thanksgiving with family and especially friends. Be seen at all times, with all time accounted for by reputable witnesses.

2) To have an UNKNOWN killer show up after PF picks up the child, take care of things, dispose of the body, and send phone calls from Idaho, AND leaving no trace behind. The "plan" would be to present reasonable doubt about whether LB ran off on her own, since PF could not be implicated. PF is probably not that bright, but he is probably bright enough to know LE would be banging down his front door with KB's disappearance.

The plan requires one critical detail. A detail that must be executed properly.

The unknown killer- KK, must remain unknown.

Could KK's BFF actually be the single person that broke this open, albeit maybe unintentionally? If she never went to the Rs, where would we be? It appears that KK folded under pressure, but did LE presenting her with the BFF's words help in undoing her denials?

The details of cases that I read here on WS have jaded me enough to consider things I thought not possible. But I'm starting to believe that PF solicited KK to compete the entire process of eliminating KB. And she did, alone. I believe this is still consistent with PF's 1st degree murder charge.

If KK did what is hypothesized here, then she disposed of the body as well. On her way back to Idaho, or in a location in CO preselected by PF?

I don't believe there is any evidence that we know of that shows PF was directly- physically involved in KBs murder or disposal. This may well have been his plan, and he thought he was playing Chess, while LE (and us) would be playing Checkers.

Checkmate.

This is definitely possible- I know Trudie has thought similarly for a while. My only hold up is what in the world could PF have offered her to get her to agree to a plan like this?

Could Trudie be right that it was all KKs idea and PF wasn't involved? I have a hard time believing that LE would have enough on him to arrest him and not KK if this was the case. MOO

 

[Trudie]

I think hospitalization is an option. The other thought I'd have is police DO know where she is, and are in contact with her, but for some reason they are trying to keep her name and location private for the time being. Maybe there's a third key player they're looking for? Maybe KK has a ton of info, and they're protecting her until the figure out who the third player is.

The whole thing is strange...LE is unusually quiet, and there aren't even many rumors swirling around like you'd expect. There's something out of the norm that may shock us all when it's time to know about it.

IMO, if she’s home, LE is constantly visiting with her. Nothing drives a suspect crazier more than “but that’s not what you said yesterday”, imo. Keep asking, the story/lie changes. And, imo, a free lance photog’ would be perfectly poised with a long lens.
Even if there’s imminent danger to her, out her in the house, she locks the doors & a deputy is stationed at the residence. Jmo
Heck, maybe she’s with her bestie, ordering pizza, throwing back beer, tightening their tale! Idk
(If being “protected”, jail offers the best protection, imo)