CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #30 *ARREST*

[Herat]

How can you sleuth somebody when you don't have a name?
Do you know how many dude ranches are near
Florissant? Many! And I might add, they look very, very fun.

I edited my post to read that KK has family near Florissant. You can edit your quote of mine if you want to.

It has NOT been previously reported that the KK, RN who lives in Twin Falls ID has family near Florissant.

There is another woman who is more likely to have family near Florissant

Are you sure you have the correct KK?

 

[GordianKnot]

Where can her brother be quoted as saying that?

GHgal, the quotes from CB can be found in the linked DM article attached to the post.

 

[NCTeacher]

I'm not sure but isn't that what her family supposed when they heard about the phone ping in Idaho? I don't remember it coming from PF.

I've read on here that PF told the mom that, but that may have been speculation not fact. I can't find a MSM to back it up.

 

[Trudie]

Just to point out the obvious. My bomb proof Perch mix who my toddler can ride gets a knock on every trim because he's a lazy brat who will take to leaning. Go ahead and give him a good knock so we don't have a squashed farrier. Tool or hand, which ever you can do. Horse remembers oh yeah, I stand like a good boy. Until he goes Nah, I'm lazy, let's lean yet again.

A good cow BC will work both ends and fairly aggressively. That's rather what they should do.

Exactly. I can use a flip flop to swat a horse fly. You know the fist sized specie? My horses don’t move, they barely feel it.
Like any professional, barber, hair dresser, dry cleaner, mechanic or....., someone is always gonna be unhappy or have an axe to grind.
In these crime cases, I tend to not believe what we hear. Idk if the people complaining even know P. I know if he had animal abuse allegations, the AQHA can cancel his membership. The dog registry could, as well. He could also be criminally charged & ordered to not possess animals for a specific term. His cop bro would be required to report animal abuse, imo. At some point he has to have a vet to his farm. I have found ZERO abuse complaints.
I could call news and tell them he shod my horse 4 yrs ago and repeatedly hit it. bet they’d report it.

 

[NoeticSoul]

CB is the brother? I thought CB was the mom?!

His initials too.

 

[NoeticSoul]

Yeah, I re-read that and thought the same thing. That would be very significant if true. It could account for having "worked" with Frazee, at some point, and it could have put her in his vicinity for as many years as the alleged ranch has been her family.

That, and a reason for her to visit at Thanksgiving besides PF too.

 

[Herat]

CB is the brother? I thought CB was the mom?!

Both mother and brother have those initials.

 

[NCTeacher]

His initials too.

Well... that's terribly inconvenient.

 

[Trudie]

Exactly. If he had wanted to be with KB, or KK for that matter, why didn't he build a house on the ranchette?
edited to add MOO.

Does the Morton building have an apartment in it? Many do. Idk

 

[?mysterian?]

It's a pony princess accusing him. If you can't tolerate your horse getting squared up with a tool or hand, you are a pony princess who doesn't know horses. I do not believe that person at all, it doesn't add up to horse reality.

It makes me wonder if PF just tapped the horse with the rounded end of the rasp handle, or if he rared back and swung the whole rasp at the horse, striking it with the metal part. There's a difference between squaring a horse up and hauling off and hitting a horse with the long metal(rough or smooth) length of the rasp.


With what that interviewee related about him kicking and "ripping" on his horse when it didn't perform like he expected, and turning his occupied horse trailer over on it's side, I choose to believe he's rough with his animals. Jmo.

You can't let horses run all over you, they have to learn to respect you. They can kill you. But being rough with them and hitting them in the head, for example, just makes them head-shy, ruins them, IMO.

 

[GHgal]

No, we know where one person stands. Not her parents, not her rational cousin who was talking on FB. One person. I'd rather hear from them than someone who has had tantrums on the official FB page before.

Is their official missing page still up abywhere ? I can no longer find it ? Can someone please pm me a link if it’s still up and available?

 

[LAHOLLA]

I don’t sway easily & I don’t expect anyone to sway.
IMO, there has been a lot of posts about P that are unfounded.
I’ve not found any evidence he’s destitute & desperately needs money, that he must live with his mom because he has no money, for example.
All of us with horses love our farrier. If you have a horse with hoof problems, you have nothing.
IMO, a farrier has unlimited income potential, once he establishes his biz.
The abuse allegations....well, visit a dude ranch, see what goes on. How you think a 2y.o. Colt gets broke in one day, advertised “anyone can ride, no experience needed”. Not because a cowboy fed him Sugar cubes and rubbed his nose. Jmo

Here is the thing, Trudie, and I mean this with no disrespect so I hope it’s not taken that way.

You also have no evidence that KK was this scorned woman who messaged KB trying to break them up and who plotted to get rid of her competition.

I don’t know at this point how involved I think KK is because we know so very little. I do think she’s not remotely close to innocent but I can’t go to “Snapped” without more than what we have.

I guess I’m just confused as to how you can create a narrative with one based on no evidence but not the other.

Again- I’m strictly making conversation about something that I have found curious. No disrespect intended.

 

[Trudie]

There is no way the solicitation charges were lodged based only on KK telling people that PF wanted KB gone. LE needs much more than that.

Thanks @riolove77 I read on CO law firm site (linked upthread)
There must be evidence! I’ll get link again. It defines what is needed.

Here we go! @riolove77 obviously doesn’t need this, lol. Good reference for the rest of us.

Colorado’s "Criminal Solicitation" Laws (18-2-301 C.R.S.)

 

[Herat]

IF KK did have family in Florissant that she visited over Thanksgiving , don’t you think the BFF would have told the R’s who would have eagerly reported it in their interview?

And wasn’t part 3 suppposed to tell us about her trip to CO? There was not much about that.

 

[Irmese]

Does the Morton building have an apartment in it? Many do. Idk

I have no idea, but he did not want to be roped and tied.
ETA MOO

 

[Irmese]

IF KK did have family in Florissant that she visited over Thanksgiving , don’t you think the BFF would have told the R’s who would have eagerly reported it in their interview?

And wasn’t part 3 suppposed to tell us about her trip to CO? There was not much about that.

How many more interviews can MSM drag out?

 

[Stunned]

Couple who exposed Patrick Frazee knew he planned to murder Kelsey Berreth weeks before her death | Daily Mail Online

SABBMFAA:
It is also unclear whether the Rockstahls were compensated in any way for their exclusive interviews, which ran on CBS affiliates around the country over the course of three nights.

Berreth's brother meanwhile is also questioning the validity of the couple's story, writing: 'I’m beginning to wonder if these people are full of s*** and just feeding a story for a reward.'

'Wow! Owners of a law firm and they didn’t do a DAMN thing. Heroes?!?! Are you f’n kidding me?!?! They’re monsters!' wrote the victim's brother Clint Berreth on Facebook.

Well, we know where KB's brother stands on the R's publicity stunt.

This pisses me off beyond words!

 

[LAHOLLA]

No, we know where one person stands. Not her parents, not her rational cousin who was talking on FB. One person. I'd rather hear from them than someone who has had tantrums on the official FB page before.

Well I certainly can’t judge how the sibling of a murdered woman chooses to conduct himself. Couldn’t and wouldn’t.

 

[LAHOLLA]

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[Jessthinkin]

No, we know where one person stands. Not her parents, not her rational cousin who was talking on FB. One person. I'd rather hear from them than someone who has had tantrums on the official FB page before.

In the Watts case, her brother FR also made similar angry/emotional statements on FB early on in the case. To be fair, I haven't seen FB postings, but I can't even imagine the anguish, despair, and yes, anger, that KB's brother is enduring.