CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #35 *ARREST*

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iirc the R's said in their interview that BFF/M tried to talk KKL out of going to CO. They all knew in advance, especially KKL.

If this proves to be true then the DA has a real witness problem.
 
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Yep. Let's see who we know that knew about KB's murder in advance:

PF
KKL
KKL's BFF
BFF employer no. 1
BFF employer no.2

Not one of these people saw fit to alert anyone or contact LE. So far, only 2 of the 5 above are facing any charges. Wonder who else knew?
The two close family members with a hotline to ABC News? IMO
 
  • #164
Yep. Let's see who we know that knew about KB's murder in advance:

PF
KKL
KKL's BFF
BFF employer no. 1
BFF employer no.2

Not one of these people saw fit to alert anyone or contact LE. So far, only 2 of the 5 above are facing any charges. Wonder who else knew?
I'm wondering if the other 3 can have charges brought on them? Maybe not until the first two cases are complete?
 
  • #165
I don't believe she participated in the murder. I cannot imagine a DA would give anyone THAT involved such a deal. There's just no way.
Karla Holmolka......just gonna leave that thought here......
 
  • #166
Police believe KK destroyed evidence on Nov 24th or 25th. KB's phone pinged in Gooding ID and texts were sent to KB's employer and PF on the 25th. So what evidence was possibly destroyed by KK on the 24th?

See thats where I am at now too. I have to assume she did more than just handle the evidence. If she sent the texts and also destroyed the phone or even got rid of the phone then to me that is an active participation in the coverup of a murder.

Sure seems the charges should be more severe for the active participation in the coverup of a murder if she did those things.

This is a really tough pill to swallow if she gets off this easy. Frankly Im disgusted. Bring on the Federal charges for crossing state line with murder evidence IMO.
 
  • #167
I really just needed to take a break for the day. I'm back. I'm used to the vitriol, honestly. People in this country do not like law enforcement and unfortunately DAs fall into that category.

There are bad/lazy/corrupt people in every profession. We don't stop going to church because some priests molest children, we don't stop sending our kids to school because some teachers rape their students. It's unreal to assume that the DA here is just looking for the fast, cheapest, least amount of work necessary way to get this case taken care of.

He said at the press conference in December that this case wouldn't be tried in the media, and it hasn't. For that alone I have a ton of respect. To assume that just because we don't know certain details surrounding this plea deal (or any other aspect of the case) means he's taking the easy way out is ridiculous.

It is very much possible that the only ILLEGAL (not immoral) thing that KK did was transporting the phone. If so, and she could have faced an accessory after the fact charge had she refused to cooperate, but is now going to get a tampering charge in exchange for full cooperation, that is fantastic. Imagine she refused to talk and they had nothing to stick her with except for the accessory charge. She'd go to prison for 2-6 years and that would be that. But she wouldn't testify against PF, and then what? If she is the nail in his coffin, then give her the tampering charge.

I know we all despise her because she knew. She's disgusting and immoral. Frankly, I'd love to give her a piece of my mind. BUT, the DA cannot charge her for knowing. It's simply not a crime. And if all she really did do was transport the phone, then I think it's a sweet deal for the DA frankly. Have some faith, until there's reason not to.
Law enforcement is one of the most trusted and respected professionals in America and has been for eons. I get so tired of hearing people say this country doesn’t like law enforcement. It’s simply not true, most Americans do. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...nd-least-trusted-professions-infographic/amp/
 

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  • #168
I feel absolutely certain she was offered this minor charge in exchange for testimony against PF. She knows more than anyone other than PF about what happened to KB. The sickening part is she knew his intent to kill KB well before it happened. She could have gotten the authorities involved. It could have been stopped. She’ll be living with that guilt forever

My concern is that some of the jury are going to be just as sickened as you are. I'm afraid PF's defense will be to claim the murder was KK's idea and now she's got a very sweet deal to testify against him. All it takes is one on the jury to sympathize with PF.

JMO
 
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This made me realize that we (me, anyway) aren’t sure what date she went to Colorado, whether it was before or on Thanksgiving or later. Is that correct? I’ve seen posts that she supposedly went to visit a relative but I’m not sure that’s accurate, either.

I know there’s been discussion about how she traveled, whether she drove or took a bus or whatever, and her transportation seems to be a question mark, too.

I have totally forgotten those dates if they are known, has anyone seen an explanation of her trip?

I still believe that she was deep into the murder itself. JMO and, like others, a gut feeling. I’m not sure anything will ever convince me otherwise (I would not be a good juror in this case).

Since she was solicited. Then talked about it for months supposedly. Then there is apparently a social media trail. Her showing up at the perfect time to transport the phone which she only turned on once would be statistically astronomical.
 
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I feel absolutely certain she was offered this minor charge in exchange for testimony against PF. She knows more than anyone other than PF about what happened to KB. The sickening part is she knew his intent to kill KB well before it happened. She could have gotten the authorities involved. It could have been stopped. She’ll be living with that guilt forever
BBM MOO Guilt? My guess is she sleeps like a baby with a satisfied smile on her face each and every night.
 
  • #172
MOO - Let me just point out that Kelsey, the woman who dared take her man has paid the ultimate price, her life. PF is sitting in a jail cell. (And I'm sure there is a good reason for that) and KK is where? Doing what? Getting charged with what? Crying poor pity the scared woman, I'll tell you everything I know in exchange for my "testimony" against the bad guy. She will walk away with book deals, media attention and a life after this. PF will go to jail for the rest of his life and the Berreths will suffer for the rest of their lives. Who in this scenario is not too bright? MOO
We will see. I don't think she did it foreseeing fame and fortune. I think she did it because she thought she would be with PF and KB would be out of their lives forever, a stupid romantic notion.
 
  • #173
See thats where I am at now too. I have to assume she did more than just handle the evidence. If she sent the texts and also destroyed the phone or even got rid of the phone then to me that is an active participation in the coverup of a murder.

Sure seems the charges should be more severe for the active participation in the coverup of a murder if she did those things.

This is a really tough pill to swallow if she gets off this easy. Frankly Im disgusted. Bring on the Federal charges for crossing state line with murder evidence IMO.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
jmo
 
  • #174
This leads me to believe that she did way more than take KB'S phone.
Like clean up, ughhhh and do God only knows what to Kelsey's body etc. She better tell exactly what happened, how,who and where Kelsey is.
I wonder what PF,and his lawyers think of this,and if PF will counter any of it. Will he just quietly go down,or will he call her out,and implicate she had more of a role in this?
If she were involved with the body, I would expect there would be some additional charges, as tampering with evidence does not include a body.
 
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Police believe KK destroyed evidence on Nov 24th or 25th. KB's phone pinged in Gooding ID and texts were sent to KB's employer and PF on the 25th. So what evidence was possibly destroyed by KK on the 24th?
The purse, another phone that maybe she communicated with PF using.
 
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Law enforcement is one of the most trusted and respected professionals in America and has been for eons. I get so tired of hearing people say this country doesn’t like law enforcement. It’s simply not true, most Americans do. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...nd-least-trusted-professions-infographic/amp/
Thank you Kinetix. I and my family are very pro LE and thank them in public every chance we get. I also appreciate the work a DA does and feel almost all of us here do. Sometimes deals are made. I get it. I don’t like it but I get it. I am happy to live in a country where people can feel free to express diverse opinions. God forbid that ever changes!

As for KK and people who know a crime is about to be committed and tell no one, she or they will never have my respect.
 
  • #177
We will see. I don't think she did it foreseeing fame and fortune. I think she did it because she thought she would be with PF and KB would be out of their lives forever, a stupid romantic notion.
Agreed, I don't think that was the initial plan, but if life gives you lemons.....MOO
 
  • #178
The purse, another phone that maybe she communicated with PF using.

Both are good possibilities IMO. I was thinking murder weapon or clean up material could be other possibilities.
 
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See thats where I am at now too. I have to assume she did more than just handle the evidence. If she sent the texts and also destroyed the phone or even got rid of the phone then to me that is an active participation in the coverup of a murder.

Sure seems the charges should be more severe for the active participation in the coverup of a murder if she did those things.

This is a really tough pill to swallow if she gets off this easy. Frankly Im disgusted. Bring on the Federal charges for crossing state line with murder evidence IMO.

My guess is they cannot place her at the crime and know it was carried out by PF and perhaps anyone else he solicited. The actions KK did was tampering with a proceeding that technically had not started as the DA or LE had not even started an investigation. For the actions she did legally for this charge (as much as it violates every moral known to humankind), case law is limited.
 
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Killer fiance Patrick Frazee's mistress 'will plead guilty to tampering with physical evidence | Daily Mail Online
Krystal Jean Lee Kenney will plead guilty to one count of tampering with physical evidence in court on Friday according to the district attorney's office.

That crime was committed on November 24 according to court documents, two days after Kelsey Berreth disappeared, having last been seen by fiance Patrick Frazee.

Lee and Frazee have known one another for years, and she has long been a person of interest in the case.

She will only get a fine and probation under the current charge, and it is not known if she made a deal with prosecutors. bbm
She should more than a fine,and probation. Grrrrrrrr.
 
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