CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #41 *ARREST*

[scmom]

The District Attorney has to prove KB was burned at PF's house. They absolutely have to prove this.

Locating that trough and analyzing the residue left behind would definitely prove the truth of that portion of KL's story.

 

[MassGuy]

if that wicked man spent three hours in the condo and didn't clean up we can sadly guess what he was doing.
and quick doesn't fit the picture.

He did apparently make an effort to clean up, using wet wipes no less.

He also had to clean himself up, so he didn’t walk out of that house looking like he had just jumped into a pool of blood.

We also don’t know exactly when he killed her; it might have not been right away.

I don’t think the murder itself was a long drawn out process. But it also wasn’t instant.

 

[Ur728]

He also didn't need a ball bat.

IMO the reason behind the blind fold was so that she wouldn't see the bat coming at all and therefore wouldn't be able to scream and tip off any neighbors or anything.

 

[AvaGrace]

If they could see it, then CBI should have been able to see it, MOO. They’re trained investigators!

I agree!! Even if nothing was available to the naked eye, all they had to do was spray some luminol. The blood would have shown up. Seriously, I think the crime scene investigators really dropped the ball. JMO.

 

[scmom]

Three hours would have given PF plenty of time to murder KB and wash and dry his clothes, even if he didn't have a change of clothing at her house.

 

[Sweetsbeach]

I hope the trial reveals more to hone in on the case against PF. I think right now everyone is distracted by the new info on how involved KK was in KB's demise.
This is exactly why PF is not talking. He spouted out lie after lie prior to lawyering up. He hasn't said a word since and it is truly working in his favor.
All we have to dissect is everything KK said, which keeps the focus off of silent PF and his culpability.

 

[Inthedetails]

He did apparently make an effort to clean up, using wet wipes no less.

He also had to clean himself up, so he didn’t walk out of that house looking like he had just jumped into a pool of blood.

We also don’t know exactly when he killed her; it might have not been right away.

I don’t think the murder itself was a long drawn out process. But it also wasn’t instant.

I wonder if he spent 3 or so hours in the house because he had to run his clothes through the washer and dryer after killing her??

jmo

 

[heartgoesout]

I’m not sure, and it doesn’t really matter.

The ball is in the prosecution’s court. If she lies, then the deal goes away.

The DA would be acutely aware that she had every reason to lie, and had already lied to the FBI at that point.

So the most important part of their job, was verifying what she told them.

They went on a field trip with her, and she directed them to evidence.

I think it does matter but I can’t put my thoughts together right now to explain why. Ha! I’m getting tangled in my own thoughts. Blah.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I assume everything she has said to be false.

That she did not clean up? That she did not go to Colorado? That she was not at the fire? You think all those things are false?

 

[Inthedetails]

I hope the trial reveals more to hone in on the case against PF. I think right now everyone is distracted by the new info on how involved KK was in KB's demise.
This is exactly why PF is not talking. He spouted out lie after lie prior to lawyering up. He hasn't said a word since and it is truly working in his favor.
All we have to dissect is everything KK said, which keeps the focus off of silent PF and his culpability.

And now he has time to concoct a story with her details, but showing how SHE is guilty, not him.

jmo

 

[gitana1]

Still thinking KK was there Thanksgiving and actually went thru with it the third time. I know her family said she was there but bloods thicker than water, well sometimes. It is the Wild West and , well I don't carry a gun. I get uneasy right away.

But is her friend also lying? Because she borrowed the friend's car on 11-23. Not prior to that. And brought it back on 11-25.

Also, LE tracked her cell phone pings and surely they would've looked at what happened prior to 11-24 when they tracked her at KB's home and showed how she was texting back and forth with PF on that date.

The facts are clear she wasn't in CO on 11-22. IMO.

This was a desperate woman. She would forgo sleep in order to snag the "man" of her dreams.

 

[NoeticSoul]

In my mind, if someone called me to come clean up a murder scene, I would be terrified they would then kill me as I'm now a witness! 911 would be my next action!

There's too much about this 'story' that doesn't make sense. And as Judge Judy says, if it doesn't make sense, it's a lie. I believe lots of what was told by KK is a lie, and the only way LE would know is if PK speaks! But, in PK speaking, he's going in implicate himself. Thus KK feels secure in saying what she wants, believing PK is NOT going to implicate himself by pointing out the lies.

I think both PK and KK are criminals and need to be in prison for the rest of their lives! What I'm not certain about is the role each actually performed in this planning of the murder, the murder, and destroying the evidence afterwards.

Maybe KK is a type of nurse that carries drugs...whether legally or not, and had Adderall or some stimulant to stay awake so long without sleep. If it was adrenaline only, it would have wore off quickly. I don't know how the majority of people's bodies respond to an adrenaline rush, yet I don't believe it would last days.

@2Hope4 Great Post! You may want to edit, as it's PF (Patrick Frazee) not PK

 

[Noharg]

DBM I misremembered a detail.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Agreed. Stay tuned for the showdown between PF & KK.

Won't he have to take the stand for that, and need Mommy to take the stand too?

 

[Hatfield]

JMO
One other part of her story I dont quite believe is how she said he left a key down at his gate for her to pickup and use to get into KB's house so she could go clean up the mess he made.

That part may be true but I tend to think he would have had to show up at KB's place to help show KK where all the places are that need cleaned up.

Some places would be obvious of course but he would want to be sure everything was cleaned up so I think he had to have shown up at KBs place while KK was there too. She made it sound like he wasnt even there during the cleanup but I think he had to have shown up at some point to make sure cleanup was done to his satisfaction.

Afterall they went to Nash ranch together after that.

 

[MyBelle]

IMO the reason behind the blind fold was so that she wouldn't see the bat coming at all and therefore wouldn't be able to scream and tip off any neighbors or anything.

PF didn't need the blindfold and he didn't need a bat. That's KK's sick fantasy.

Strangulation is both doable and far less messy.

JMO

 

[InvSmith]

Once they used luminal (or whatever brand it's called), I think they found a lot of blood, not just trace. That's how they proceeded with a murder charge, imo.

I do wonder if she took pictures....

jmo

Lesson people, women offenders don't typically murder with bats. For this felon to admit she came to this house with a bat tells you all you need to know. She is not scared of anybody on planet Earth today, tomorrow, or forty years from now. If by any stretch, her description is valid of the home, she is not only NOT scared but has no soul. Remember, she offered up the idea of poisoning not PF.

 

[Trudie]

If I remember correctly, KK said she stole the coverall suit from the hospital. She has been away from there since when? Guess she was anticipating a need for one even back then...just in case.

Maybe she stocked up from the supply cabinet when no one was looking, like you said....just in case. Not only is she a liar but a thief. Do I believe her line of horse manure? Nope. None of it. Moo

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

KK 's behaviors are not consistent with fear of PF. She is in love. She visits him. She listens to him on and on and on about murder. She helpfully cleans up murder. She doesn't tell the police "OMG there's been a murder!" After cleaning up. Not fear. Much more like she cooperated in the planning, and just preferred not to do the actual murder, but was cool with keeping it a secret till the police came calling. Who does all that? No one , unless you are okay with murder. IMO.

Yep,and still in love with him. A bloody murderer,and she's still in love with him,as she throws him under the bus.
SMH.

 

[sunshineandlove]

If I remember correctly, KK said she stole the coverall suit from the hospital. She has been away from there since when? Guess she was anticipating a need for one even back then...just in case.

I thought she said she had one from when she painted her house. Who wears a hazmat suit when they paint their house? LOL