CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #45*ARREST*

[enelram]

Lol, nope. 5'7" 155 lbs here.

hey, that's about like me. Let's just pretend we're itty bitty.

 

[scmom]

A great thought that had not occurred to me. I had heard of her telling mom she had her gun back which also showed her he did not think she was suicidal or why would he give it back right? That alone could complicate things. Was that call the night before with mom the night she was with him until 4 a.m., I can't recall? Or on TG Day? If and only if, they were planning on staging a scene, I think gunpowder residue can still play into your thought, depending on if and how staging was planned... The part that throws me though is he still did try to say to mom she went to Idaho or Washington... Where I thought it has been hinted she had left and/or they were going to hint at and he still wanted (allegedly) KK to take the body to ID too and there is a bullet missing which could be explained a few ways admittedly.

I think too it looks like rage got the best of him and plans went awry but it is still odd that there were beating types of deaths discussed more than once prior--the metal rod, the bb bat (KK), the bb bat now (him) so it was not a new thought... But then who knows if any of it is true, this all comes from one lying source and the other tidbits she has comes from the other lying source (known to lie both of them). And who knows about brain cell strength in either... They sure know how to lawyer up though...

I suppose there is more to come and maybe, just maybe we shall know. The part about KK having a friend's gun with as well throws me (and that she would have brought that allegedly after PF had killed her so if that plan were over and a bb bat was used, still confusing...)...

The biggest problem is that we're dealing with lying liars who lie like breathing. Both of them seem to be able to tell the whole gamut from fiblet to gargantuan whopper with no effort.

 

[Herat]

It is against federal law to transport a loaded gun. iirc, Meghan told LE there should be seven bullets, one was missing and she discovered a bullet in the chamber.

Notwithstanding any state or local law, a person shall be entitled to transport a firearm from any place where he may lawfully possess and transport such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and transport such firearms if the firearm is unloaded and in the trunk.

In vehicles without a trunk, the unloaded firearm shall be in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console. Necessary stops, e.g., gasoline and rest, seem permissible.

Interstate Transportation of Firearms

Yes it’s the GLOVEBOX that is the problem, especially a loaded weapon in the glove box.

BTW: In NV and Utah, your CCW pops up when the highway patrol searches your license plate. Then they have some forewarning before they approach your car. And when you get stopped you always put both hands on the steering wheel where they can see them. You should even ask permission to reach into the glove box first, if your registration is in there.

 

[MyBelle]

Maybe the bff lied about the gun not having previously had one in the chamber bc she knew it was against the law?

Meghan was alarmed and contacted LE about it. Why would she lie about it to LE?

JMO

 

[ilovechili]

She wanted it bad enough to kid herself that they wouldn't get caught.

I don't know about anyone else, but there's no way I would drive a car with expired plates, particularly if it wasn't my car, and even more so if I were going to be crossing state lines where my out-of-state plate might attract cops. Among other reasons, if the plates are expired, I think the auto insurance is invalid and I'm not driving a car 50 feet without insurance.

And PF tried to get her to cram KB's body (and presumably six bags of trash) in that car to take somewhere and dispose of?

Is he that stupid or was he just trying to shift risk (and dirty work) from himself to KK?

I did it once with expired tags when in my very early 20s and believe me never would do so again and have not. Just did not have the funds and had not renewed them yet but the ticket was more funds and then had to pay for both things, ouch.

This is nots though. She also has two guns with her as well and neither belong to her and one belonged to a now dead woman and had recently been shot and the other had a shell missing and a round chambered I believe (from what we know). She also had just cleaned up a murder scene and attended a bonfire, etc. and more. She also had cell phones with allegedly which must have been pretty incriminating or she would not have destroyed them later. There is more to this.

This car even bothers me, why this car and why were the tags expired?

On the other hand if we ever hear a story in any case that makes perfect sense, I would then probably not believe that either...

 

[ab01]

Meghan was alarmed and contacted LE about it. Why would she lie about it to LE?

JMO

Actually the affidavit says that LE contacted and interviewed Meghan.....

 

[x_files]

IKR? Who drives a car w/expired plates to a crime scene? Someone told me to not try to make sense of this crime about 20 threads ago, but I just can't get over the stupidity, not to mention the evil.

What do you do when your "boyfriend", who is a long-distance boyfriend at that, calls you from two states away to ask you to drop everything and drive down to clean up the mess he made when killing the mother of his infant child? Call your friend to borrow her car, lie to your ex-husband, and tell him "I'll be there as soon as I can?"

Could there be something we're missing? Or is it just that ridiculous?

it's ridiculous. Not buying her story at all. A sane person would call the cops asap!

 

[MsBetsy]

Maybe the bff lied about the gun not having previously had one in the chamber bc she knew it was against the law?

Isn't she the one who notified LE about the gun in the first place?
Anyway, she didn't transport the gun, did she? I thought she just lent KK the gun.

 

[ab01]

I don’t believe kk killed kb anymore than I believed SW killed her kids. PF wanted KB gone and all the evidence points towards him and not towards KK.

“PF swung the bat”

 

[ab01]

Isn't she the one who notified LE about the gun in the first place?
Anyway, she didn't transport the gun, did she? I thought she just lent KK the gun.

Supposedly it was left in her car, and when kk returned said car the friend thought it was missing a bullet and had one in the chamber. Moo

 

[GordianKnot]

Does it matter if it was a tote bag or a hard plastic tote? I’m not sure that I see the significance of it or how it changes the outcome of the case? Can someone help me connect the dots please?[/QUOTE]

Well, personally, I just think of it as being "that black thingy LE is looking for."

That probably doesn't connect any dots, though. Sorry I can't be of any help, ab!

 

[MsBetsy]

Actually the affidavit says that LE contacted and interviewed Meghan.....

Ok, I just posted about that so I guess she told them about the gun when she was questioned. But still, she wasn't the one who transported the gun, so I guess if KK wasn't charged with that she wouldn't be either. Imo

 

[ab01]

Thx @GordianKnot

 

[x_files]

Sadly I think it’s just that ridiculous.

Keep in mind she only started dating him in July of 2018! So more than half of their fling was plotting KB's demise. wth ok, who would conspire to commit murder with a new boyfriend? or even an old one? Surely, this is not a case of self-defense either. The lady must be crazy.

 

[MsBetsy]

Supposedly it was left in her car, and when kk returned said car the friend thought it was missing a bullet and had one in the chamber. Moo

Oh, I had thought all along that KK borrowed the gun from her! I didn't realize it was just left in her car. I wonder why she was carrying a gun around with her in her car.

 

[ab01]

Oh, I had thought all along that KK borrowed the gun from her! I didn't realize it was just left in her car. I wonder why she was carrying a gun around with her in her car.

I’ll try to find the exact msm quotes

 

[MsBetsy]

Keep in mind she only started dating him in July of 2018! So more than half of their fling was plotting KB's demise. wth ok, who would conspire to commit murder with a new boyfriend? or even an old one? Surely, this is not a case of self-defense either. The lady must be crazy.

They were a couple some time after high school, and supposedly she had been in love with him ever since. They may have had an intimate relationship around 2016 or 2017, according to her ex- husband. Imo

 

[ilovechili]

Keep in mind she only started dating him in July of 2018! So more than half of their fling was plotting KB's demise. wth ok, who would conspire to commit murder with a new boyfriend? or even an old one? Surely, this is not a case of self-defense either. The lady must be crazy.

I think it started (this time) getting intimate in March. She, however, never knew about KB and baby until she allegedly heard it from a former boss she was having lunch with. Wonder just how that talk came about? That was July. He never told her, she found out.

From that point forward to me, I entirely agree, there was murder talk. I have not heard of one other word of murder talk until then. That we know of so far.

 

[MsBetsy]

I’ll try to find the exact msm quotes

Ok. I just found it in the affidavit. I don't know how to link it, but it says Meghan kept the gun in her car. So apparently KK didn't ask to borrow it. Imo

 

[GordianKnot]

Thx @GordianKnot

No, no, thank YOU, ab!