CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #46*ARREST*

[Dave F.]

Do you know if wind, rain, darkness, or the direction of the sun might effect what the camera picks up?

A rapid change in humidity can certainly affect the motion sensor, and there is an inherent conflict in that the sensor works best at night, while the camera works best in the daylight................but those are typical of all such devices. Rain in November in Colorado has never happened, to my knowledge. Also, it's a deep mountain valley. All sunlight is very little direct and mostly indirect light.

IMO

 

[ab01]

So the camera will only come on or take a picture when it detects movement? If it's far away is it likely that it won't always respond to movement?

Most residential security cameras are hit or miss at best, I know mine is......sometimes I will have a picture of a bird, other times my wife will come home and I will have no alert and no picture. Really makes it inconvient to hurry and jump up and pretend to be doing the dishes...MOO

 

[Gardener1850]

To give a better idea of the area,
@mustloveco posted some pictures of the area around KB's townhouse back in December:

Deceased/Not Found - CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #19 *ARREST*

Deceased/Not Found - CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #19 *ARREST*

Deceased/Not Found - CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #19 *ARREST*

Deceased/Not Found - CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #19 *ARREST*

Deceased/Not Found - CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #19 *ARREST*

Deceased/Not Found - CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #19 *ARREST*

 

[PommyMommy]

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
And here's the Friday update from Woodland Park Police on the search for Kelsey Berreth's remains. They have a lot of help from local & state agencies. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

 

[MsBetsy]

Most residential security cameras are hit or miss at best, I know mine is......sometimes I will have a picture of a bird, other times my wife will come home and I will have no alert and know picture. Really makes it inconvient to hurry and jump up and pretend to be doing the dishes...MOO

I was wondering how accurate they were.
I'm going to assume that there is no way we can speculate whether or not any person went to that house at any time based on the surveillance camera. Imo

 

[ab01]

I was wondering how accurate they were.
I'm going to assume that there is no way we can speculate whether or not any person went to that house at any time based on the surveillance camera. Imo

Yah unfortuanatly unlike commercial cameras they are not 100 percent reliable. I will say they are reliable in the way if somebodys picture was snapped by it they were 100 percent there without a doubt. MOO

 

[Dave F.]

So the camera will only come on or take a picture when it detects movement? If it's far away is it likely that it won't always respond to movement?

The efficiency of any economical sensor diminishes as it gets farther away, up to sixty feet when it will no longer detect. The ARLO camera will only take a small number of pictures for free. When those have been used up, it will no longer take a picture until the start of the next billing period. If a person has the phone app, it will take a picture, but if the person doesn't accept it on the first request, it disappears. That is my understanding.
IMO

 

[x_files]

One of the few things in this case that seems to have no explanation, what in the world happened to that missing bullet? I’m pretty much on board with KKs story since they have a quite a bit of evidence between cell phone data and surveillance confirming most of her timeline, but that’s one question that she can’t answer. Curious what you guys think?

find her body and find the bullet.

 

[ab01]

find her body and find the bullet.

They are working tirelessly on finding KB remains and there may not even be a bullet to be found....moo

ETA: imagine digging through literal mountains of trash to try to find human remains.

I remember one time I was helping a friend in my mid twenty’s tear off a roof. I took the dump trailer to the county landfill. I will never forget, there was a farmer dumping a dead cow next to me and oh man the smell was enough to gag a maggot! Bless those local LE officials

 

[Dave F.]

In this picture which was just posted, the are two white devices mounted on the wall of the unit next to KB's, that weren't there in the May 2018 Zillow photo. Could one be the ARLO 1 Camera and the other be an ARLO LIGHT security light?

 

[MassGuy]

Then again, KK may have worn an adult diaper like the nutty astronaut did years ago to drive to Florida to murder her lover's other girlfriend.

JMO

I have no words.

 

[PommyMommy]

In this picture which was just posted, the are two white devices mounted on the wall of the unit next to KB's, that weren't there in the May 2018 Zillow photo. Could one be the ARLO 1 Camera and the other be an ARLO LIGHT security light?

Could be. I wonder if @mustloveco could get a closer picture for us?
MOO

 

[jewelsmac]

It was stated in the Attachment 1 that the camera was an ARLO-1, part of an Amazon Echo based wireless system. The camera only comes on when activated by the motion sensor. If the user does not have it hooked to the Amazon SMART system or to a paid app, it will only take a picture and log it on the Amazon Cloud, then send a text message asking if the user wants to view it. The free service allows only a limited number of these instances, then shuts down.
Most people buy the app download, which gives them the ability to activate the camera any time and see what's in view. With the app, it will also notify the user of snapped opportunities that happen when the app is not activated, and the user can select whether he/she wants to view them or not.
An example would be that UPS delivers a package while the user is having a latte at Starbucks. The user gets a text saying the ARLO 1 designated "Front Door" has snapped a picture. Said user uses his/her UPS tracking app to determine that yes, the expected package was just delivered. Said user declines to view the image, saving a little money in the process, and Amazon deletes it from the Cloud.
My son uses an ARLO hooked to a device that I haven't yet seen. Every work day at a certain time he dials in the app and calls his Yorkie, who is asleep on a step at home alone. The dog runs to the device and my son causes it to drop a treat. The dog is happy, and my son is extremely happy. Welcome to the new world order. IMO
https://www.amazon.com/Arlo-Security-Camera-kit-Wire-Free/dp/B06ZZTXS5J

I have an Arlo, three cameras, and mine must be different system because mine does not work that way at all. Mine is activated by motion, takes video until the motion stops and then the video stops. I can also view live, and leave it on as long as I like. These cameras also have speakers and microphones. I do not pay for service. But it does only keep seven days worth of videos, you can delete them at will in order to keep older videos, while deleting newer unwanted clips.. . The system the neighbor has may have been older. And as I’ve said before these cameras have a bit of a delay so if someone were to cover a short distance quickly you would only catch a glimpse of them. Perhaps the neighbors camera was far enough away to miss motion. systems may vary. The dog one sounds fantastic

 

[PommyMommy]

I have no words.

THAT says a lot!
MOO

 

[Deleted member 102539]

A utility truck didn't come into play. A utility man did. IMO

Utility workers usually don't drive their privately sedans but are driving with something like a truck, more or less large, I would think. Maybe, someone's thought was in that direction: where an utility worker, there a truck.

 

[Gardener1850]

JMO, I think it is fruitless to try to figure out if something was blocking the neighbor's camera. I think the reason there are not photos of KK or not photos of PF at certain times is that those photos were not viewed (or not saved) by the owner of the camera. Someone who owned an Arlo system told us the camera is very limited in the number of photos it will save. At the press conference after the prelim the DA and ADA answered questions. One of of them was about the camera and why it didn't pick up KK on the 24th. The ADA says that the images come to the neighbor's email and if she (the neighbor) looked at it then the images would be on there.

It's at about 11:40:
DA discusses Patrick Frazee's preliminary hearing

MOO.

 

[ab01]

THAT says a lot!
MOO

I’m glad you said it and not me

 

[ilovechili]

I cannot recall if the idea about the ARLO camera speculation about the free app was a fact or just speculation? Do we actually know this was the free plan? Or it is one of those things that is just speculated because we know of no video of PF taking out the tote, of KK bringing the car up, etc.? I many threads ago it was speculated as we found things out but I cannot remember if it is a known fact. Thanks in advance for anyone who can answer that.

 

[Dave F.]

Ok, I had no idea how far cameras could see, or that there is no parking on Lake Ave, etc. I have no idea where the camera is located or why only some of the supposed activity was captured. I'm not pursuing that further.

But, @Dave F. , can you please doublecheck your comments about the four directions, because Google Maps is telling me otherwise.

I'm sorry, you are correct. The cars are South of the fireplace, the air conditioner and Lake Street are North, the neighbor that gave her the gate is East, and the neighbor that saw the truck parked behind her vehicles is West.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Then again, KK may have worn an adult diaper like the nutty astronaut did years ago to drive to Florida to murder her lover's other girlfriend.

JMO

Absolutely possible, why not.

There are women, who would even wear such a thing, when they are going to enjoy a rock concert (not to lose their place in front of the stage).