CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #49 *ARREST*

[NWLady]

SW111 bottom of page 11 to top of page 12.

Dec 7 - Cpl Currin spoke to the homeowner at 251 E Lake Ave. (That's the unit across from KB's door, at lower elevation and offset, 251 door also on side.) Neighbor has the free Arlo 7-day system. Cpl Currin states there was no video before 11/29. He reviewed her video, saw the package delivery 12/1 at 1520, and the elderly man (now we know it was RS) on 12/3 at 0801.

This statement in the SW begs the question where did they get the images of PF on 11/22:

- PF at KB' door with KB, baby & flowers approximately 1PM
- PF entering 1:24 per AA (1:36 per Prelim testimony)
- PF at KB residence 3:36

A poster, I don't remember who, tried to suggest another camera may exist across the alley or across the street.

Thanks for that information! Very good summary and good points that you have made!

 

[mustloveco]

does anyone have quick access to the link of the note PF left to take care of baby K?!!?

 

[LietKynes]

I’ll say this:

If LE truly has no evidence against kk then she did a hell of a lot better hiding her tracks on the 22nd than she did at any other point of the crime!

Oh that’s right she wanted to get caught on those other days.

Nah She didn’t want to leave a trail, she’s just simply not that good at covering her tracks moo

SABBM

My bet is on the bolded bit. ^^
And KK prob. lied to make it look as if she did this intentionally. (Trying to appear clever instead of other options...)

 

[ilovechili]

I must have missed something. Isn't the deal with KK a sealed court document? We only know the part of what we were told right?

 

[girlhasnoname]

does anyone have quick access to the link of the note PF left to take care of baby K?!!?

https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...erest/2018CR330/002/18-111 Search Warrant.pdf

Page 27

 

[tmar]

It’s gotta be highly insulting to LE I’m sure to hear the public say that KK was the murderer.

There is no logic to be made for the prosecution to offer a deal like this to KK if LE hadn’t already verified that she was not present when KB was murdered.

Additionally I don’t care what the jury thinks of kk. The biggest benefit she has provided to the prosecution is hard evidence against PF.

KB blood on things found inside The Franch.

All PFs lies about whereabouts, lies to CB. Lies to Doss that KB was a drug addict etc

Phone data, including phone ping locations.

The cadaver dog hit on a location on RS ranch.

Oh and PF was the last one to see KB alive.

The defense can try to implicate kk all they want to, but the evidence still points to PF as KBs murderer. I’m not sure how implicating KK makes PF seem any less guilty in the eyes of a jury

Moo

From above: "The cadaver dog hit on a location on RS ranch".
I haven't come across this before.
If this is the case, PF's trips to the vicinity of RS's place, straight after the murder, may tie into this.
I hope so.
Guess all this has been further investigated.
MOO.

 

[travelbug]

I’ll say this:

If LE truly has no evidence against kk then she did a hell of a lot better hiding her tracks on the 22nd than she did at any other point of the crime!

Oh that’s right she wanted to get caught on those other days.

Nah She didn’t want to leave a trail, she’s just simply not that good at covering her tracks moo

ITA - LE is in a "holding" pattern. They have released only what is necessary to get and keep PF behind bars. I have no doubt there will be more evidence and perhaps additional charges filed (against others) after they have a conviction. jmho

 

[skycountry]

With the trailer flipping...

I have been to that fairground and I know the lot. I also know how full it usually is for events. I can not believe, no matter how evil PF is and how vicious his temper can be, that he could get up the speed to make a turn that would flip the trailer where it was claimed to occur. Futhermore, I do know rodeo guys. They may have ignored PF, but that horse would have been gotten out before they ignored PF. Additionally, there is NO other claims that he flipped the trailer, no accident reports, nothing. There'd be something else out there. Not just one person saying so.

I can't believe that the flipped trailer occurred as the claimed statement was. Sorry. There's too much wrong with it.

Maybe they are to afraid of saying something publicly, but who knows, it could be a false story.

There is enough truth being stated from ex girlfriends, KK, and now we have the hospital blow up story in the AW, we can see he had anger issues. I am positive it will all come out at the trial, his mask will be removed, and we will see it all, the good and the bad, I have a feeling the bad is going to horrific.

 

[skycountry]

From above: "The cadaver dog hit on a location on RS ranch".
I haven't come across this before.
If this is the case, PF's trips to the vicinity of RS's place, straight after the murder, may tie into this.
I hope so.
Guess all this has been further investigated.
MOO.

The dogs "hit" at the Nash Ranch barn, I don't think LE has been to RS's..... yet.

 

[ilovechili]

...she probably ate one. Before she went to Sonic. Before she went to PF family Thanksgiving...

Love this!

 

[ab01]

I must have missed something. Isn't the deal with KK a sealed court document? We only know the part of what we were told right?

Correct we only know what was presented in Kk preliminary hearing. Moo

And I should have said the amended charge in my previous post

 

[girlhasnoname]

From above: "The cadaver dog hit on a location on RS ranch".
I haven't come across this before.
If this is the case, PF's trips to the vicinity of RS's place, straight after the murder, may tie into this.
I hope so.
Guess all this has been further investigated.
MOO.

I haven't seen anything relating to search on RS Ranch either? Can anyone give a link please?

 

[ilovechili]

From above: "The cadaver dog hit on a location on RS ranch".
I haven't come across this before.
If this is the case, PF's trips to the vicinity of RS's place, straight after the murder, may tie into this.
I hope so.
Guess all this has been further investigated.
MOO.

I guess I am getting really confused as well because I thought the dog hit at Nash ranch not at RS's. Also, there was no blood of KB's found at the Franch unless I missed it which I very well could have. There was a mop and bleach etc. that tested presumptive for blood, it never said that it was KB's or that the results were in.

If these are facts, I would sure like to see them and missed a lot.

 

[ilovechili]

I haven't seen anything relating to search on RS Ranch either? Can anyone give a link please?

This is news to me as well. So is KB's blood being found at the Franch.

 

[ilovechili]

The dogs "hit" at the Nash Ranch barn, I don't think LE has been to RS's..... yet.

That is how I understood it as well. Unless they are one and the same. You would know I am sure. Thank you.

 

[LietKynes]

Maybe they are to afraid of saying something publicly, but who knows, it could be a false story.

There is enough truth being stated from ex girlfriends, KK, and now we have the hospital blow up story in the AW, we can see he had anger issues. I am positive it will all come out at the trial, his mask will be removed, and we will see it all, the good and the bad, I have a feeling the bad is going to horrific.

Emph. mine

Agreed.
Wonder how many people out there have been hurt and/or threatened by this man ?

 

[ilovechili]

ITA - LE is in a "holding" pattern. They have released only what is necessary to get and keep PF behind bars. I have no doubt there will be more evidence and perhaps additional charges filed (against others) after they have a conviction. jmho

ITA. And hope so.

 

[ilovechili]

With some, you can just tell when they are alike and a tag team.

Cohorts. Partners in crime.

PF and KK. If I murder, you clean up. You murder, I will get the pipe for you. I will take care of the body, you take the phone and the gun. And so much more.

Nothing like tag teaming.

jmo.

 

[NWLady]

Yes, law enforcement can absolutely obtain location data from a destroyed burner phone.

All phones have phone numbers, and require cell towers to transmit phone calls and texts.

The mistake was using this phone to contact PF, which provided a link. KK also knew this number, and would be required to provide it to law enforcement.

This data can all be tracked.

Burner or not, her location will be known.

BBM - Thanks for that, I hope it holds true in this case! I will have to look over the search warrants again to see if there was any served for any phone that could have possibly been a burner phone of KK's. I don't recall seeing that specifically but it's hard to remember it all. And I do see that in June 2018 the Supreme Court ruled on use of cell phones for tracking, location, etc and that there are certain circumstances that apply where there is no warrant needed.

And thanks, I do realize "all phones have phone numbers, and require cell towers to trasmit phone calls and texts." LOL

 

[MassGuy]

BBM - Thanks for that, I hope it holds true in this case! I will have to look over the search warrants again to see if there was any served for any phone that could have possibly been a burner phone of KK's. I don't recall seeing that specifically but it's hard to remember it all. And I do see that in June 2018 the Supreme Court ruled on use of cell phones for tracking, location, etc and that there are certain circumstances that apply where there is no warrant needed.

And thanks, I do realize "all phones have phone numbers, and require cell towers to trasmit phone calls and texts." LOL

Ha! I was just explaining the mechanics of it, and that a burner is useless if law enforcement can identify the user.

PF helped them by communicating with it, and KK obviously knew her own number.

That phone used a tower every time it was used to communicate, so burner or not, that phone location can be tracked.