CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #52 *ARREST*

[Hatch]

DBM

 

[MassGuy]

I bet she left them at Ma's wherever they came from would not have taken them back with her. If That is what happened she had her dunce hat on after cleaning.

Yeah, this is interesting.

Right now, we don’t know what happened to the cleaning supplies she brought.

There is nothing in the documents that tells us their disposition after the cleanup occurred.

We didn’t hear about them being thrown away or burned, and I too doubt that she would have returned to Idaho with them.

I think it’s entirely possible that she did leave them at the ranchette.

 

[Hatch]

Yeah. This is interesting.

Right now, we don’t know what happened to the cleaning supplies she brought.

There is nothing in the documents that tells us their disposition after the cleanup occurred.

We didn’t hear about them being thrown away or burned, and I too doubt that she would have returned to Idaho with them.

I think it’s entirely possible that she did leave them at the ranchette.

I think she may have also, Ma was old school, oh don't throw those away, I can use them, or they were hers to start with . Only thing mentioned being burned is the suit, gloves , mask , shoe covers and bags of paper towels. The mops were never mentioned until they were gathered in the search at the Franch.

 

[girlhasnoname]

I think she may have also, Ma was old school, oh don't throw those away, I can use them, or they were hers to start with . Only thing mentioned being burned is the suit, gloves , mask , shoe covers and bags of paper towels. The mops were never mentioned until they were gathered in the search at the Franch.

Hah! I would like to say nobody would that dumb to leave any cleaning supplies ESPECIALLY a mop that could have trace DNA on it that was used during the commission of the crime, but again we're talking about Dumb and Dumber here!

 

[susiQ]

I think she may have also, Ma was old school, oh don't throw those away, I can use them, or they were hers to start with . Only thing mentioned being burned is the suit, gloves , mask , shoe covers and bags of paper towels. The mops were never mentioned until they were gathered in the search at the Franch.

I'm surprised he didn't take that discoloured bale of hay and burn that too.

 

[GordianKnot]

Hah! I would like to say nobody would that dumb to leave any cleaning supplies ESPECIALLY a mop that could have trace DNA on it that was used during the commission of the crime, but again we're talking about Dumb and Dumber here!

The words, "Nobody could be such a moron," hold special meaning when speaking about PF.

PF is in fact a big, fat nobody.

Hence, PF can be and in fact is such a moron. Always.

It is impossible to overstate PF's moronicity.
He's beyond Dumb and Dumber...
He's The Dumbest!

J.M.O.

 

[Kapua]

I was just reading about a cold no-body case. Michael Haim killed his wife Bonnie in 1993 and buried her in their backyard - and he killed her in front of their son Aaron, who was 3 at the time. Aaron told his aunt that 'Daddy shot Mommy in the stomach'. I mention this case because the reason the authorities did not arrest Michael sooner was that they didn't have a body - until Aaron inherited the house and accidentally discovered it when digging in the backyard. For 20 years, Michael Haim has been free. I am so thankful that we don't have to wait 20 years for justice for KB. MOO

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Courtesy of @SandyQLS, we have a link!! Thanks Sandy!
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Deceased/Not Found - CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #39 *ARREST*

Alexis Dominguez KRDO‏ @alexisdomm
Slater: Frazee and Krystal drove back to the townhome to get Frazee's truck.#KelseyBerreth#PatrickFrazee

Thanks for taking the time to find all that. For those who didn't follow each person's Twitter, and only followed Sam, that would have been missed. I was confused, and did not realize that this was in addition to the trip getting picked up to go get his truck and go by KB's house with the white hair white beard and mustache guy @ 8:01 on Dec 3rd!

I've corrected my notes. I guess they followed each other to the Conoco station after getting his truck.

*waves "thanks" for digging in there and finding this information. as I was wrong*


Ashley Franco‏ @AshleyKKTV
Slater: #PatrickFrazee gave Krystal Lee #KelseyBerreth phone and told her to drive to Kelseys home, text Cheryl Berreth and then go back to Frazee’s home @KKTV11News
1:14 PM - 19 Feb 2019 Eastern Time

Alexis Dominguez KRDO‏ @alexisdomm
Slater: Frazee and Krystal drove back to the townhome to get Frazee's truck. #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
1:22 PM - 19 Feb 2019 Eastern Time Zone

Sam Kraemer
@SamKraemerTV
Frazee wanted Kenney to take the remains to Idaho. Kenney refused. Frazee said, “we’re finishing this.” So, at Frazee’s direction, Kenney texts Cheryl Berreth from Kelsey’s phone saying she’d call her tomorrow. Sheila Frazee had Kaylee.
@KOAA
#KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
4:14 PM · Feb 19, 2019 his time zone


Sam Kraemer
@SamKraemerTV
This is all on Nov. 24. After that text, Kenney met Patrick at the Florissant Coneco Gas Station to go to the Nash property (can confirm it’s Nash). Kenney says Frazee backed the truck up to a large red barn.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I think she may have also, Ma was old school, oh don't throw those away, I can use them, or they were hers to start with . Only thing mentioned being burned is the suit, gloves , mask , shoe covers and bags of paper towels. The mops were never mentioned until they were gathered in the search at the Franch.

Alexis Dominguez KRDO
@alexisdomm
Nov. 24th at around 7:3oam. Krystal brought a suit that would be used to prevent stuff from getting on your body, a hair net, booties, two trash bags, bleach and a box of gloves. #kelseyberreth #PatrickFrazee
3:52 PM · Feb 19, 2019


Sam Kraemer
@SamKraemerTV
Kenney brought gloves, a hair net, two trash bags, bleach, a white body suit (to keep things off her person) and booties (shoe covers). She brought those supplies from home, Slater says, because she had them from painting her home.
@KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
3:53 PM · Feb 19, 2019

Yep, a mop and or bleach bottle with KB AND KKL DNA from PF house sounds good!

 

[susiQ]

Thanks for taking the time to find all that. For those who didn't follow each person's Twitter, and only followed Sam, that would have been missed. I was confused, and did not realize that this was in addition to the trip getting picked up to go get his truck and go by KB's house with the white hair white beard and mustache guy @ 8:01 on Dec 3rd!

I've corrected my notes. I guess they followed each other to the Conoco station after getting his truck.

*waves "thanks" for digging in there and finding this information. as I was wrong*


Ashley Franco‏ @AshleyKKTV
Slater: #PatrickFrazee gave Krystal Lee #KelseyBerreth phone and told her to drive to Kelseys home, text Cheryl Berreth and then go back to Frazee’s home @KKTV11News
1:14 PM - 19 Feb 2019 Eastern Time

Alexis Dominguez KRDO‏ @alexisdomm
Slater: Frazee and Krystal drove back to the townhome to get Frazee's truck. #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
1:22 PM - 19 Feb 2019 Eastern Time Zone

Sam Kraemer
@SamKraemerTV
Frazee wanted Kenney to take the remains to Idaho. Kenney refused. Frazee said, “we’re finishing this.” So, at Frazee’s direction, Kenney texts Cheryl Berreth from Kelsey’s phone saying she’d call her tomorrow. Sheila Frazee had Kaylee.
@KOAA
#KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
4:14 PM · Feb 19, 2019 his time zone


Sam Kraemer
@SamKraemerTV
This is all on Nov. 24. After that text, Kenney met Patrick at the Florissant Coneco Gas Station to go to the Nash property (can confirm it’s Nash). Kenney says Frazee backed the truck up to a large red barn.

No worries! It's quite easy to miss things and we all remember the misreporting that went on at the beginning. I got sucked into the "dog" instead of "God", lol.

But, once again, I will drive myself batsh@t crazy trying to understand how it was that his truck was at KB's and when did it get there?
ed:sp

 

[MassGuy]

No worries! It's quite easy to miss things and we all remember the misreporting that went on at the beginning. I got sucked into the "dog" instead of "God", lol.

But, once again, I will drive myself batsh@t crazy trying to understand how it was that his truck was at KB's and when did it get there?
ed:sp

That’s not going to get any clearer I’m afraid.

The bits and pieces that we have so far, are likely all we’ll see until trial.

We’ll have to wait.

 

[ilovechili]

Thanks for taking the time to find all that. For those who didn't follow each person's Twitter, and only followed Sam, that would have been missed. I was confused, and did not realize that this was in addition to the trip getting picked up to go get his truck and go by KB's house with the white hair white beard and mustache guy @ 8:01 on Dec 3rd!

I've corrected my notes. I guess they followed each other to the Conoco station after getting his truck.

*waves "thanks" for digging in there and finding this information. as I was wrong*


Ashley Franco‏ @AshleyKKTV
Slater: #PatrickFrazee gave Krystal Lee #KelseyBerreth phone and told her to drive to Kelseys home, text Cheryl Berreth and then go back to Frazee’s home @KKTV11News
1:14 PM - 19 Feb 2019 Eastern Time

Alexis Dominguez KRDO‏ @alexisdomm
Slater: Frazee and Krystal drove back to the townhome to get Frazee's truck. #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
1:22 PM - 19 Feb 2019 Eastern Time Zone

Sam Kraemer
@SamKraemerTV
Frazee wanted Kenney to take the remains to Idaho. Kenney refused. Frazee said, “we’re finishing this.” So, at Frazee’s direction, Kenney texts Cheryl Berreth from Kelsey’s phone saying she’d call her tomorrow. Sheila Frazee had Kaylee.
@KOAA
#KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
4:14 PM · Feb 19, 2019 his time zone


Sam Kraemer
@SamKraemerTV
This is all on Nov. 24. After that text, Kenney met Patrick at the Florissant Coneco Gas Station to go to the Nash property (can confirm it’s Nash). Kenney says Frazee backed the truck up to a large red barn.

This is why I would like to see the official transcript. All of the reporters did their best tweeting but none caught every question and statement made in court that day.

CBS news has finally requested it and they asked for it to be expedited. Whether they will share it or not is anyone's guess (as far as with the public) but one would think once they receive it, we will see a news story or two. I am guessing even expedited they perhaps do not have it yet.

jmo.

 

[susiQ]

This is why I would like to see the official transcript. All of the reporters did their best tweeting but none caught every question and statement made in court that day.

CBS news has finally requested it and they asked for it to be expedited. Whether they will share it or not is anyone's guess (as far as with the public) but one would think once they receive it, we will see a news story or two. I am guessing even expedited they perhaps do not have it yet.

jmo.

Yes, this would be very helpful but I doubt they'll share the transcript. Another news story will certainly be aired.

Now me, I'd like the complete transcript of CBI's interviews with KK. I know that's never going to happen, but THAT would be a real treat!

 

[MassGuy]

Yes, this would be very helpful but I doubt they'll share the transcript. Another news story will certainly be aired.

Now me, I'd like the complete transcript of CBI's interviews with KK. I know that's never going to happen, but THAT would be a real treat!

I looked into the woman who made the transcript request, and she works for 48 Hours.

They must be working on an episode about this case.

 

[ilovechili]

Yes, this would be very helpful but I doubt they'll share the transcript. Another news story will certainly be aired.

Now me, I'd like the complete transcript of CBI's interviews with KK. I know that's never going to happen, but THAT would be a real treat!

I know news stations often share them with other news stations but hard to say in this case.

I will second your motion on the KK transcript and add to that the video, I want to see her face and hear her when she answers questions and/or tells her story.

 

[susiQ]

I looked into the woman who made the transcript request, and she works for 48 Hours.

They must be working on an episode about this case.

That's great! Do you think they will air something before the trial, or wait until after the trial when all the "goods" have been laid out?

 

[MassGuy]

That's great! Do you think they will air something before the trial, or wait until after the trial when all the "goods" have been laid out?

48 Hours in particular, seems to play a bit of a long game when it comes to most cases.

It’s hard to say what they’ll do here.

They might air something before trial approaches, or wait until then.

 

[steeltowngirl]

I bet she left them at Ma's wherever they came from she would not have taken them back with her. If that is what happened she had her dunce hat on after cleaning.

KK tossed her cowgirl hat out the window and plunked dunce cap on her head in its place the very minute she hung up the phone with PF and decided to drive 800 miles with cleaning products to mop a murder scene.

 

[katydid23]

I am confused as well, about how PF’s truck was left at the condo.

Is it correct that he had the baby with him during the murder? How would he leave the condo with the baby and not use his truck?

Did someone pick them up?

Or did he drive his truck away from the crime scene but then return later in his truck and leave it there somehow for some reason?

 

[dixiegirl1035]

48 Hours in particular, seems to play a bit of a long game when it comes to most cases.

It’s hard to say what they’ll do here.

They might air something before trial approaches, or wait until then.

I remember when everything was released with the Watts case. At that time everyone here was saying that if it had gone to trial, much of it we would have never seen because it would have been purchased by the networks and released piece by piece and not everything released.

Moo and Iirc