CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #6

[Steelslady]

What information leads you to this? Please post link.

Kelsey's own mother said it in an interview that they were waiting to get married because cattle prices are low right now.

 

[Jennifer17]

Cameras maybe?

I think that we would have learned that and if there were cameras, they would show her leaving later and with whom.

 

[scdiv]

Three days ago there was a news release by the Woodland Park PD stating specifically that Patrick picked up the child. There was no preface that this was what Patrick told them.

This statement? This news release on December 12 that says "Statement by Kelsey's fiance PF, relaying this is the last day he sees Kelsey when he picks up their daughter, 1-year-old K. (Afternoon)

LE is conveying that this is the information that was relayed to them by PF.

 

[mickey2942]

What statistics are you drawing from when it comes to moms who leave their families? Just curious.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2013/05/04/op...-leaving/index.html?r=https://www.google.com/

There are women who do just walk away from their children.

But, it is more likely that when a woman disappears, her significant other was involved. However, that is not always the case.

The BF has not been charged with a crime.

 

[Steelslady]

Is there a link for that?

If you can't find it on here, maybe try Googling it?

 

[Jennifer17]

What information leads you to this? Please post link.

I don't need a link for something that 'I think'.

 

[Seattle1]

While we're waiting for news...

I've been thinking about why KB's address that was shown here was a PO Box in Florissant when she lives and works elsewhere.

My thought is that perhaps when she first moved to Colorado, she thought she would be living in Florissant, so she got the PO Box there. But why would she move to a tiny place like that? Perhaps to be with PF?

Meaning that perhaps they met online BEFORE she moved, and he was perhaps why she moved there in the first place.

MOO of course.

If you go back to the earliest MSN media reports, articles state KB AND KF moved to Co in 2016. We've since learned that KF has strong ties to Teller County and simple search reveals no other addresses for him outside of CO. As for postal box in Florissant - nothing should be read into that as that is very much the norm in rural communities for logistics. Most residents in Teller County will tell you that they've had the same PO box for more than 40 years. Also, it's not clear which came first -- KB's dream job with Doss Aviation, or KF. Maybe another question for our VI.
MOO

 

[BRRI]

From that article:

Even more bafflingly, investigators say on the day the texts were sent, Ms Berreth's mobile phoned pinged off a tower in Gooding, Idaho - more than 1200km from where she was last seen and an area in which she has family.

and

The missing woman's mother believes her daughter is still alive "somewhere in Colorado.

"I think she wants to be found," Cheryl told Inside Edition.

"She's got no reason to be hiding, she's got to be desperately missing (her daughter)".

Color me confused. They were at the fiance's home looking for evidence of something, yet her Mom truly believes she is alive and still in Colorado?

Mollie’s parents said they felt she was alive for the majority of the investigation too

 

[scdiv]

I do really think that he has told different people two stories about the handing over of the child and that is why suspicion fell on him so quickly.

I do think you are on to something, and as you said earlier, I hope it's his undoing.

 

[Deleted member 169742]

Could very possibly be true but where is your proof??? Do you have any info about another 'love interest'? Please post a link.

Happy to provide the links ... but that would go far outside this crime thread.

These two came from different social circles. Each is attractive and vibrant.

Historical US context always involves this third party love interest. It is a rare domestic situation that does not.

In my personal lifetime ... I can not recall a single break-up of my friends marriages that did not involve a third party interest.

Not a one.

LE always looks for it. Cause it leads them to motive and the trigger.

In a few days, if the search does not hit pay sand .... LE will bring one or more of these interests into focus.

A good oil engineer knows what he drilling in and what is next.

So does LE

 

[Deleted member 718]

LE said she was at Safeway about noon and PF met her later that afternoon to exchange. They must have proof somehow.

 

[GoJacks]

I think that we would have learned that and if there were cameras, they would show her leaving later and with whom.

I saw somewhere in the news that neighbors confirmed coppers came and asked for their ring video from that day.

never said if anything was on it though.

 

[BRRI]

I think that we would have learned that and if there were cameras, they would show her leaving later and with whom.

I’m not sure. We didn’t learn about cameras in Mollie’s case until two weeks later, once the arrest was made.

 

[Sabrina1011]

But if she drove to Safeway, and both her vehicles were in her driveway, the car at least made it home from grocery shopping. The baby was in a car seat in the video.

Those car seats fit in a stroller too.....

 

[Jennifer17]

Happy to provide the links ... but that would go far outside this crime thread.

These two came from different social circles. Each is attractive and vibrant.

Historical US context always involves this third party love interest. It is a rare domestic situation that does not.

In my personal lifetime ... I can not recall a single break-up of my friends marriages that did not involve a third party interest.

Not a one.

LE always looks for it. Cause it leads them to motive and the trigger.

In a few days, if the search does not hit pay sand .... LE will bring one or more of these interests into focus.

A good oil engineer knows what he drilling in and what is next.

So does LE

I disagree. I have many friends who divorced with no abuse and no outside love interest. I am one of those people also.

 

[Nemellotus]

Happy to provide the links ... but that would go far outside this crime thread.

These two came from different social circles. Each is attractive and vibrant.

Historical US context always involves this third party love interest. It is a rare domestic situation that does not.

In my personal lifetime ... I can not recall a single break-up of my friends marriages that did not involve a third party interest.

Not a one.

LE always looks for it. Cause it leads them to motive and the trigger.

In a few days, if the search does not hit pay sand .... LE will bring one or more of these interests into focus.

A good oil engineer knows what he drilling in and what is next.

So does LE

Wait a minute here.... what are you saying? Who are you and what fact do you have to support this major claim?

 

[eleveniseleven]

I don’t get the feeling that another love interest is the motive here.

I think this was all about custody of the child.

I have that feeling, too.

 

[Seattle1]

Now I’m getting really confused...

Kelsey Berreth: Police Search Fiancé’s Ranch In Hunt For Missing Colorado Mom

The child exchange has been misreported several times by MSM. WS Verified Insider @Kelsy's Aunt confirmed to WS that PF allegedly collected his daughter from KB's home. KB did not drive her child and drop her off anywhere.

 

[Esma]

I think if it was him, he did drive to Idaho to ping her phone to support his alibi. I also think they won’t find her in Colorado. I think he would have taken her to Idaho to further support his alibi. I think he told the mother Kelsey broke up with him Thanksgiving and was going to Idaho and that’s why he didn’t report her missing. I bet the text from her phone to his is something about their supposed breakup. The mom isn’t buying the break up story. They need to look in Idaho I believe. But where!?!

 

[Jennifer17]

Kelsey's neighbors' Ring Doorbells and surveillance cameras
These cameras may show more than him picking up the toddler. I hope a local news reporter will go interview her neighbors who've been talking on social media.

Yes, very possible, but they would not just capture PF picking up the baby. They would capture her leaving too.