CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #59

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Oops, hope they change that to June 2018.

I bet after July and August she was asking questions about when she may get money. He had to figure out something in um, September. Fits the timeline perfectly!
Sam had it right.

Those child support payments were made from Oct 2017 (child’s birth) to July 2018, and Slater noted one of the last payments was about $150 short with “registration and taxes” written on the check. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
 
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Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
Some afternoon notes: - Police found interesting financial records when searching the Frazee Ranch on Dec. 14-15. - A letter shows he “defaulted” on a $70k+ loan, missing a payment on Dec. 1. - CBI Agent Gregg Slater says Frazee paid Berreth $700/month in child support

2:24 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
Just like that, Court is done for the say. Prosecutors “ran out of witnesses” in comparison to what they were expecting. Judge Scott Sells says we’re still on pace. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

2:22 PM - 5 Nov 2019
 
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Wow! Motive.

We also heard CBI Agent Gregg Slater review other evidence pointing possible motive. That includes letter showing #PatrickFrazee was in default in a $72k loan. He had been paying #KelseyBerreth $700/mo in child support but made last payment in June 2019. @csgazette

Lance Benzel on Twitter
Didn't we go through this loan last year and learned it was for a bunch of feeder calves he'd
bought but hadn't sold them yet so thus he hadn't paid off the loan?
 
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I still don't understand why the timing on the photos is not nailed down solid. I thought that the pics were sent through an email that could be recovered. Are they saying they can't confirm what time the app sent the photos, and there were no timestamps on them?

I do hope that someone gives Sam a heads up as to explaining this more tonight, or the other reporters, as the print version I'm just not getting what it means when they are out of order and may be off a few hours.....
I'm not a techie! What I understand is that the images were retrieved from the cell phone's cache. Someone else will have to explain how that effects the timestamps. MOO
 
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Sam tweet screen cap of his handwritten alibi list etc.

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They also touched on a handwritten note from Frazee that appears to be an alibi for Nov. 22. View the top paragraph of this email for what that note said.
 

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Sam had it right.

Those child support payments were made from Oct 2017 (child’s birth) to July 2018, and Slater noted one of the last payments was about $150 short with “registration and taxes” written on the check. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
So was he defrauding IRS stubbing child support payments as a ranch expense?
 
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Sam tweet screen cap of his handwritten alibi list etc.
This is the equivalent of a “smoking gun.”

He backed himself into a corner by writing his alibi out, and every relevant part of it can be proven to be a lie.

He wasn’t feeding cattle, he was committing murder. He’s literally caught on camera multiple times in direct conflict with his “alibi.”

The only person who can outdo PF, is PF. He’s outdone himself here.

By a fricken mile.
 
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From looking at the picture of the driveway posted upthread a bit, it looks like there is plenty of room to park, without blocking anyone else in.

I don't think you need to live in the country to know not to block guests in with your vehicle, if possible.
He sure didn't have any trouble blocking KB in when he parked sideways at the townhouse. MOO
 
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Slater said investigators also found half-completed court forms for a child custody issue, though none were filed. #PatrickFrazee #KelseyBerreth @csgazette

Lance Benzel on Twitter
So here’s hoping she testifies to that call as I’m certain that’s the “clean up your mess “ call IMO
 
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PF was not a visitor to the place. He was a resident. It is a western courtesy not to block the guests in with your vehicle. SF2 might not know that. He was twenty years of age when SF1 bought the place, so it seems unlikely that he ever lived in the country. JMO

Hmmm. I guess that “western courtesy” is only applicable at his place? Cuz I seem to remember he had a habit of blocking KB’s vehicles in when visiting her. JMO.
 
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Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
Just like that, Court is done for the say. Prosecutors “ran out of witnesses” in comparison to what they were expecting. Judge Scott Sells says we’re still on pace. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

2:22 PM - 5 Nov 2019

If anyone knows......

So does this mean that the Prosecution has more witnesses still? Did they just not have them ready in the courtroom today when they got through the ones they thought would take the whole day?
 
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This is the equivalent of a “smoking gun.”

He backed himself into a corner by writing his alibi out, and every relevant part of it can be proven to be a lie.

He wasn’t feeding cattle, he was committing murder. He’s literally caught on camera multiple times in direct conflict with his “alibi.”

The only person who can undo PF, is PF. He’s outdone himself here.

By a fricken mile.

So gloriously true. But we haven't seen anything yet...
 
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Sweet save!

As for the black tote that allegedly changed positions in #PatrickFrazee pickup, defense attorney Adam Steigerwald suggested an alternate explanation. He pointed out that Frazee stopped at a Walmart and purchased a number of large items including dog food. @csgazette

Steigerwald said #PatrickFrazee can be seen in parking lot surveillance loading items into the bed of his pickup but that another vehicle blocks some of his movements.

Lance Benzel on Twitter
 
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He sure didn't have any trouble blocking KB in when he parked sideways at the townhouse. MOO
But he was in town then, guess he left his
"Western Courtesy" back at the Franch. :rolleyes:
 
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If anyone knows......

So does this mean that the Prosecution has more witnesses still? Did they just not have them ready in the courtroom today when they got through the ones they thought would take the whole day?
Absolutely!!! Dan May not done--not even close.
 
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So gloriously true. But we haven't seen anything yet...
Damn straight!

I had no doubt this case was strong, but this is above and beyond all expectations.

It’s only day 3, and the prosecution has so much more to reveal.
 
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Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
Testimony so far this afternoon has focused on two turning points in investigation of #KelseyBerreth disappearance: a blood stain her brother found on the bottom of her toilet, and the last time her phone ever pinged a cell tower. That ping in southern ID lead them to key witness
2:20PM - 5 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
Prosecutors have also talked about finances between Berreth and #PatrickFrazee. Frazee was late on payments on a $72k loan and had been paying Berreth $700/month in child support for many months. His brother earlier said the family had clashed over deceased dad’s $400k estate.
2:20 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
One prosecutor said financial situation would become important part of case — not entirely clear how just yet.
2:20 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
Prosecutors seem to be setting up for testimony for key witness Krystal Lee Kenney, Frazee’s lover who told police he killed Berreth. Prosecutors are asking witnesses about Kenney’s role.
2:20 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
We ended early today — prosecution ran out of witnesses for today. I am thankful for this because that means I get to run in the sunlight! Maybe!
2:20 PM - 5 Nov 2019
 
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Sam had it right.

Those child support payments were made from Oct 2017 (child’s birth) to July 2018, and Slater noted one of the last payments was about $150 short with “registration and taxes” written on the check. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Wow - what a douche. So instead of continuing to pay child support and his other bills, he decided that it would be better to get rid of KB? And then what, run off into the sunset with KK? Another thing that keeps bugging me is that I've read on the posts that KK said she did what she did because she feared for her life. That just doesn't add up to me. I think she was madly in love with PF and he was madly in love with her like some crazy Bonnie and Clyde story and that is why she did what she did. He did it for money and she did it for love. She just made up the story of being afraid of him thinking that saying that will help her get out of trouble. Sorry, I went off the topic at hand. Just makes me so mad that this little girl will be missing her mother because of these two criminals.
 
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All those identical t-shirts got expensive.

And the prostitutes added up.

What’s the betting Ma said that thing to Kelsey knowing full-well what he spends his money on.

And what’s the betting he was trawling for a ‘rich’ girl in the first place. Poor Kelsey got caught in the net.
IMO
 
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