CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #59

[oviedo]

Ashley Franco on Twitter
We got out of court a little early today. The last investigator to testify explained how they found custody papers in #PatrickFrazee home. They were dated August 9, 2018. @KKTV11News #KelseyBerreth
3:29 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Ashley Franco on Twitter
We also learn #PatrickFrazee hired a lawyer to help with those custody papers. They were never filed, but they existed. We've heard rumors about this before. It was confirmed today. @KKTV11News #KelseyBerreth
3:30 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Ashley Franco on Twitter
Another thing about the couples daughter. Investigators say from Oct 2017-July 2018 #PatrickFrazee was paying about $700 in child support to #KelseyBerreth. The child support money was not court ordered.
3:31 PM - 5 Nov 2019

I think that’s when the plan began in his mind - August

 

[Kapua]

That would make sense. They’ll call her to explain how this all went down, and follow her testimony with experts who can back her claims with an explanation of the evidence.

We might see KK tomorrow!!!

ETA: The sad fact that we won’t “see” KK, notwithstanding.

I'm surprised that none of the tabloids have tried to photograph any of the main players. Where's the Daily Mail when you need them? LOL and MOO

 

[Snowsnake]

I wonder if he's, um, dated anyone else online in the past. I don't even understand why he was doing that with Kelsey, when he had dear old KK ready and waiting. hhmmmm

I think he was looking for someone to buy him a ranch. He had no grazing land and no hay land but he had a herd of cattle. Very expensive position to be in. He may have even cooked up the scheme with KK. He is a Master Monster at telling women want they want to hear to get what he needs. KB was from a ranch family with the wherewithal to get him property. Yep I think he schemed that long but things got out of hand as KB got on to him. Put him away for life.

 

[MemPat]

Yeah, he is probably still counting on the jury not finding the star witness credible but so far the evidence against him is overwhelming.

After all, he alone would know if she's lying about something or not, but in the end it may not depend so much on her testimony after all.
Especially if that partial tooth found in the burn pile belonged to Kelsey.

Imo

If that tooth is Kelsey's they could just let evil KK sleep in.... but it's going to be a blockbuster after she quotes Patrick telling her to find it.

 

[Steelslady]

RECAP - COURT ADJOURNED FOR THE DAY

Lance Benzel on Twitter
#PatrickFrazee trial is done for the day after prosecutors ran thru all their scheduled witnesses early. #KelseyBerreth @csgazette
2:16 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Lance Benzel on Twitter
Among the highlights of afternoon session was admission of hand-written doc — found at #PatrickFrazee ranch — in which he lays out time line of events surrounding #KelseyBerreth’s disappearance. He says he met her at 12:30 p.m. to exchange child.
2:18 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Lance Benzel on Twitter
This is plainly contradicted by surveillance from multiple locations and receipts charting their movements. #PatrickFrazee #KelseyBerreth
2:19 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
Testimony so far this afternoon has focused on two turning points in investigation of #KelseyBerreth disappearance: a blood stain her brother found on the bottom of her toilet, and the last time her phone ever pinged a cell tower. That ping in southern ID lead them to key witness
2:20PM - 5 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
Prosecutors have also talked about finances between Berreth and #PatrickFrazee. Frazee was late on payments on a $72k loan and had been paying Berreth $700/month in child support for many months. His brother earlier said the family had clashed over deceased dad’s $400k estate.
2:20 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
One prosecutor said financial situation would become important part of case — not entirely clear how just yet.
2:20 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
Prosecutors seem to be setting up for testimony for key witness Krystal Lee Kenney, Frazee’s lover who told police he killed Berreth. Prosecutors are asking witnesses about Kenney’s role.
2:20 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
We ended early today — prosecution ran out of witnesses for today. I am thankful for this because that means I get to run in the sunlight! Maybe!
2:20 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Lance Benzel on Twitter
We also heard CBI Agent Gregg Slater review other evidence pointing possible motive. That includes letter showing #PatrickFrazee was in default in a $72k loan. He had been paying #KelseyBerreth $700/mo in child support but made last payment in June 2019. @csgazette
2:21 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
Some afternoon notes: - Police found interesting financial records when searching the Frazee Ranch on Dec. 14-15. - A letter shows he “defaulted” on a $70k+ loan, missing a payment on Dec. 1. - CBI Agent Gregg Slater says Frazee paid Berreth $700/month in child support
2:24 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
Just like that, Court is done for the say. Prosecutors “ran out of witnesses” in comparison to what they were expecting. Judge Scott Sells says we’re still on pace. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
2:22 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Lance Benzel on Twitter
Slater said investigators also found half-completed court forms for a child custody issue, though none were filed. #PatrickFrazee #KelseyBerreth @csgazette
2:23 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
Those child support payments were made from Oct 2017 (child’s birth) to July 2018, and Slater noted one of the last payments was about $150 short with “registration and taxes” written on the check. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
2:25 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Lance Benzel on Twitter
And Slater covered a fateful discovery: when investigators received phone records showing that #PatrickFrazee called Krystal Lee Kenney at roughly 4:30 p.m. on Nov. 22, about when he was allegedly seen leaving #KelseyBerreth’s house.
2:26 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
They also touched on a handwritten note from Frazee that appears to be an alibi for Nov. 22. View the top paragraph of this email for what that note said. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

2:27 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Lance Benzel on Twitter
At the time, Slater knew that #KelseyBerreth’s phone had last pinged in Idaho, near where Krystal Kenney lived. “It sparked my interest, yes,” he said on stand. #PatrickFrazee @csgazette
2:27 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
As we reported in the days leading up to Frazee’s arrest, Slater said cell phone records were key. Upon seizing Frazee’s phone, they saw he made a call to a number later identified belonging to Krystal Kenney around the time police say he left Berreth’s home. @KOAA
2:29 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
When they determined the phone number Frazee called was in Idaho, combined with knowledge Berreth’s phone last pinged in Idaho, Slater says they focused on foul play & Frazee being a suspect. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
2:31 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Lance Benzel on Twitter
June 2018!
2:32 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Carol McKinley on Twitter
The jury has gone home for the day in #PatrickFrazee's murder trial. Judge Sells-" prosecution has run out of witnesses" due to travel arrangements. Parties are in closed court now. This afternoon spent corroborating facts. 830 Wednesday start #kelseyberreth @ABC
2:35 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Lance Benzel on Twitter
As for the black tote that allegedly changed positions in #PatrickFrazee pickup, defense attorney Adam Steigerwald suggested an alternate explanation. He pointed out that Frazee stopped at a Walmart and purchased a number of large items including dog food. @csgazette
2:36 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Lance Benzel on Twitter
Testimony resumes at 8:30 a.m. Wednesday. Please follow @JakobRodgers for continuing updates. He will be manning the tweets for the next couple days at least, then I’ll be back. #PatrickFrazee #KelseyBerreth @csgazette
2:41 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
On a lighter note in what is a very serious case: Only one person (who I'm not going to name) has had a slip of the tongue in court and accidentally called #PatrickFrazee "Patrick Swayze" in front of everyone.
3:06 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Ashley Franco on Twitter
We got out of court a little early today. The last investigator to testify explained how they found custody papers in #PatrickFrazee home. They were dated August 9, 2018. @KKTV11News #KelseyBerreth
3:29 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Ashley Franco on Twitter
We also learn #PatrickFrazee hired a lawyer to help with those custody papers. They were never filed, but they existed. We've heard rumors about this before. It was confirmed today. @KKTV11News #KelseyBerreth
3:30 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Ashley Franco on Twitter
Another thing about the couples daughter. Investigators say from Oct 2017-July 2018 #PatrickFrazee was paying about $700 in child support to #KelseyBerreth. The child support money was not court ordered.
3:31 PM - 5 Nov 2019

I knew that I read somewhere earlier this year, that Patrick had filled out custody papers (well, he did halfway through) but didn't file them.

I don't think he wanted custody per se of Baby K, he wanted to ditch the child support payments. His last payment was in June? Maybe poor Kelsey was asking for help financially and he couldn't keep up with the demands of the loans and child support.

It makes you wonder if he knew he would lose the custody case, with the battle of the siblings and inheritance issues going on. He couldn't afford the child support obviously, and he couldn't pay off his loan.

AAAaaaawwwwwww, poor Patrick.

I wonder if Krystal feels like a fool now, helping him?

 

[Ccging]

I think that’s when the plan began in his mind - August

Agreed, and most likely after the attorney told him his chances of getting custody were probably not good.

 

[MsBetsy]

I don't think they wanted them out on the street, but they wanted their share of their father's inheritance. Obviously, Patrick and his mother couldn't afford to buy them out, so I am thinking they were trying to force them to sell the ranch to get their portions of the inheritance. It doesn't appear that the mother is included in the inheritance, so the siblings splitting it three ways would have put Patrick out of their father's ranch and looking for another home, and who knows who would take MaF.

This does explain a lot of things. Kelsey's parents were going to help them purchase a ranch, but I wonder if they wanted it in Kelsey's name only with one of her parents, seeing that they weren't married yet. With whatever was going on with this inheritance, it appears that the Berreth's were trying to help both Kelsey and Patrick out by helping them purchase their own ranch, but then it was said that Patrick got irritated and just told Kelsey to rent a place. I think that is when the Berreth's helped Kelsey get that condo- they probably didn't want her wasting money on rent and having to constantly move to a new place with a baby.

Amazing, though, how fast they were already in a battle over the father's inheritance- he had only passed away two months before Kelsey was murdered. Holy cow, they really wanted MaF and Patrick out of there, or to buy out their portion pretty quickly, eh?

Just my thoughts and opinions, and I could be wrong.

I'm confused about the fathers estate.
Does it include the ranch or another property?
I thought it was SF who owned the ranch.

 

[susiQ]

For what reason? Many cases have the witnesses request that their faces not be shown in court, and it is usually granted.

Undercover officers.

 

[MemPat]

I think they are going to say that he broke up with Kelsey, she was upset and told him to take the baby so she could rest. Then she got drunk and passed out. He called his girlfriend to tell her he had broken up with KB, and then his girlfriend traveled from Idaho, snuck into the condo and killed the drunk ex girlfriend.

And PF told those lies to try and cover for his girlfriend. The End.

Except the defense said the murder happened someplace other than the condo, didn't they?

 

[PommyMommy]

I'm confused about the fathers estate.
Does it include the ranch or another property?
I thought it was SF who owned the ranch.

SF owns the ranch. MOO

 

[Mimi in London]

Kelsey Berreth murder case: Patrick Frazee’s brother — who is a Colorado police officer — takes stand in murder trial – Canon City Daily Record

SABBM:
Sean Frazee, a spitting image of his brother albeit with a mustache, described his relationship with his brother as distant.

“I don’t know that we’ve been on bad terms, we just haven’t been close,” Sean Frazee said of his brother.

Sean Frazee was not asked by either prosecutors or his brother’s public defenders whether his brother acted differently during Thanksgiving dinner at their mother’s Florissant home, and Sean Frazee did not offer up any such analysis.

Sean Frazee said he arrived at the Florissant ranch about 2:30 p.m. on Thanksgiving. Patrick Frazee and did not arrive at the house until about 5 p.m., after the family had already eaten, he said. Patrick brought his and Berreth’s daughter, Kaylee, with him, Sean Frazee said.

Patrick Frazee previously had told his brother that he and Kelsey Berreth had separated, and on Dec. 3 Patrick Frazee told his brother that Berreth’s mother had reported her missing, Sean Frazee said.

“He explained to me that her grandmother was sick and that she may have been visiting her sick grandmother,” Sean Frazee said.

Sean Frazee was concerned, he said, but didn’t know what to think because he didn’t know Berreth.

“We were really praying that she would be found healthy and alive somewhere,” he said.

Italicisized and underlined by me. WHY???

I am thrilled with SF2’s testimony, and he seems to have ‘done the right thing’. However what could the avoidance of this line of questioning by the DA indicate?

By avoiding discussion of PF’s typical behaviour, we get no sense of SF2’s reaction to PF being 2 hours late. This means no reference to his mother’s behaviour during those 2 hours. Eg. was she mad? Calling PF every 20 minutes? Agitated? Calm? Wryly smiling?

MOO

 

[katydid23]

I think that’s when the plan began in his mind - August

Yes. I bet the attorney told him he was NOT going to get full custody according to what the current situation was. And so he jumped to plan B---kill his ex.

 

[MemPat]

That would make sense. They’ll call her to explain how this all went down, and follow her testimony with experts who can back her claims with an explanation of the evidence.

We might see KK tomorrow!!!

ETA: The sad fact that we won’t actually “see” KK, notwithstanding.

If one of those reporters doesn't get an announcement of KK's debut to the public within minutes, I'll be appalled!

"Rodeo Queen Spills Gut in Real Time!"

 

[AnnaGrace]

Cowboy hats probably.

And chaps..

 

[Gardenista]

9NEWS (KUSA) was live.
11 minutes ago ·

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=567410114006834

 

[MemPat]

I'm surprised that none of the tabloids have tried to photograph any of the main players. Where's the Daily Mail when you need them? LOL and MOO

They're back in the UK writing the news before it ever even happens as per usual.

 

[MassGuy]

Italicisized and underlined by me. WHY???

I am thrilled with SF2’s testimony, and he seems to have ‘done the right thing’. However what could the avoidance of this line of questioning by the DA indicate?

By avoiding discussion of PF’s typical behaviour, we get no sense of SF2’s reaction to PF being 2 hours late. This means no reference to his mother’s behaviour during those 2 hours. Eg. was she mad? Calling PF every 20 minutes? Agitated? Calm? Wryly smiling?

MOO

Maybe the prosecution intends for her to answer those questions herself.

She’s on the witness list, and the judge apparently mentioned the word “immunity,” during that pre-trial hearing. This doesn’t mean she’s been granted it, but I wouldn’t be surprised.

So KK would testify, then maybe SF will be called to testify about Thanksgiving and that fire she apparently witnessed.

 

[enelram]

I'm confused about the fathers estate.
Does it include the ranch or another property?
I thought it was SF who owned the ranch.

There's nothing in public records that would explain this other than title is in SF's name only.
Unless there is a side agreement not recorded
that shows at the time of divorce of the parents
they agreed how the distribution would be handled upon the death of one of the parents.
Not sure how much legal standing the other siblings would have here.
But if you back out the current mrkt. value of
ranch - $288,917- that leaves only $112,000
in other assets that the father left at the time of his death.

 

[Seattle1]

Nov. 22, 2018: What Patrick Frazee, Kelsey Berreth were doing on the last day she was seen alive

Author: Allison Sylte
Published: 3:58 PM MST November 5, 2019
Updated: 3:58 PM MST November 5, 2019

ETA: KB unit is center

 

[Simply Southern]

Haaaa -- when disputing money, people have all sorts of reasons to go to the mat against each other.

Erin likely wanted support to motion PF's share held in trust until such time she believed he was responsible in her terms, or force his title clouded so creditors couldn't interfere. I see this often when multiple siblings inherit a house that soon gets liened by the fault of one of the heirs.

MOO

Found this little tidbit regarding inheritance distribution....

Could the siblings be trying to recoup from the wayward brother?.... Imho

• Advancements. If you gave a gift to a relative during your lifetime, the value of this property is subtracted from that relative’s share only if you stated this in writing or the relative admitted this in writing.

Intestate Succession in Colorado