CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #62

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  • #341
still behind!
was thinkin leading up to Friday how painful it will be for us having to wait 3 whole days to get back to court.....but I have to say......
the prosecution left off very satisfyingly.

we learned heaps :-)
damn shame about that wedding and no sam. friday would have been a ripper to get the ins and outs of.
but we shall not complain!!!!!

moo
 
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You are right. Now that I have read more of what he said. I don’t understand people. It’s like there is a fear of getting involved. Maybe he never went to LE at all. The more I think about it, maybe LE went to all of PFs “friends” and asked them if he had ever made any statements. If only one had gone to Kelsey. Maybe they didn’t even know where she lived. It’s all so sad. PF told so many lies to so many people!

I wonder if he threatened KB frequently and she ignored him and also assumed he was "just in a bad mood" or in any event, would not really hurt her.
 
  • #345
ug. does anyone think he has killed anyone else?

Let's look at how well PF managed to cover his tracks here.

There's your answer.
 
  • #346
Didn't we see a photo a while back?

For some reason I have it pictured in my head.

I believe we may have seen photos of teeth in the search warrant inventory from PF residence-- not to be confused with the tooth that was buried in the scorched earth.

(I believe there was an envelope containing teeth collected from the residence).

MOO
 
  • #347
I wonder if he threatened KB frequently and she ignored him and also assumed he was "just in a bad mood" or in any event, would not really hurt her.
Often times people in abusive relationships try to find ways to rationalize behaviors. So, I definitely think this could be true!
 
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So, when the prosecution rests, do you think the defense will make the usual motion for dismissal for lack of evidence?

And if they do, what are the odds they'll be able to keep a straight face?

likely. It happens in literally all my trials. In California we call it an 1118 motion (penal code section) and it’s routinely denied. But I guess they figure why not throw it out and see what sticks?
 
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Isn't that awful? Chemicals, sharp edges, a hot-burning stove in the center of the house, and few toys. :(:(:(

Yeah - right....and KB was the child abuser. :rolleyes:
 
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I'm TOTALLY guessing here and it might be very far fetched. Ok, here goes.
At one time I had thought pf might be a bit slow and an off-the-wall talker in general. You know...the type who is always annoyed with this and annoyed with that. So maybe Mr Moore would chide him, but not take his outbursts very seriously being PF's norm.
I wonder if the smart ladies, and they both were very smart, saw pf as innocent because he was a bit slow.
Excuse me if it's far fetched and off-the-wall, but I knew someone kinda like that.

remember also that PF was telling people that KB was untruthful and a drinker and unreliable and bad to the baby- likely these people did not have any independent knowledge of KB and would have been "confused" when she disappeared if they believed any of his statements, IMO, and they would probably have not felt comfortable talking to her.
 
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I wonder what could cause luminol to have a weird reaction?

Oh, yikes! There is something to nullify Luminol results discussed right there on google....Active Oxygen.

Thank goodness, this trial is not hanging on blood being found in Patrick's truck.
 
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A little more of that conversation:

Moore said they talked again on Dec. 20, 2018.

“He couldn’t understand what this whole big thing was all about,” Moore said. “It made no sense to him. (He said) ‘People go missing every day all across the United States and this is national news. It’s coast-to-coast coverage. I don’t even understand why there is such a big deal over this.’”

Moore replied that a white, beautiful, young mother had gone missing, so it was what the media cared about.

He said Frazee’s response was: “Man, if I had known it would have blown up this big, I never would have —” and didn’t finish sentence.

Friend testifies Frazee said, ‘I figured out a way to kill her’

:confused::eek::mad:

“He couldn’t understand what this whole big thing was all about,” Moore said. “It made no sense to him. (He said) ‘People go missing every day all across the United States and this is national news. It’s coast-to-coast coverage. I don’t even understand why there is such a big deal over this.’”


What a narcissistic thing to say.
 
  • #356
Oh, yikes! There is something to nullify Luminol results discussed right there on google....Active Oxygen.

Thank goodness, this trial is not hanging on blood being found in Patrick's truck.
Next up, the prosecution will produce the receipt for PF's purchase of this product. MOO
 
  • #357
which is exactly what needs to be asked of her on the stand.

wonder if they have no idea what she might say- remember she supposedly hated KB for no apparent reason and had her tossed from the house.
 
  • #358
Cannot agree more - and we still have what? 60? More witnesses ? Holy cripe how many people did he talk to? I’m believing that DA And company found every single person he ever whispered anything to regarding KB
I. can’t . Wait.
JMO
(But am glad court is closed Monday)
With everyone he boasted to I find it hard to believe CC didn't know also.
MOO
 
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His search history is going to be incredibly interesting in light of those comments.

What did he Google exactly? I think we’ll find out.
Websleuths.com perhaps?
 
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