CO CO - Kelsie Schelling, 21, pregnant, Pueblo, 4 Feb 2013 *Arrest* #2
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OK, I get it.
This happened to me after the last Chrome update and reading Twitter became almost worthless to me!
Colette Bordelon
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BREAK: We just heard a recorded phone call with #DontheLucas and the Denver detective who first took the case on Feb. 10. First time I’ve ever heard his voice. Really lays out #Lucas’ initial timeline of when he says he last saw #Schelling. Let’s start breaking it down.
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The call happened just hours after the Denver detective got the case. #Lucas’ tone sounded very calm and matter of fact. He first says he last heard from #Schelling during a phone call on Feb. 9. He says she called from a private number, and was angry with him.
@KOAA
Says that conversation was short - and that #Schelling was allegedly yelling at him, telling him to “stop leaving her voicemails,” “don’t worry about me,” and “leave me alone.” #Lucas says he tried to scream over her, telling her to contact her family, who was concerned.
@KOAA
Lucas guessed #Schelling was headed or heading to California, to work at a tanning salon and be with an ex-boyfriend. The detective never found any evidence pointing to California.
@KOAA
Lucas alleged that #Schelling lied often about being pregnant. Here’s what he says happened the last time he saw her, on the night of February 4 and into February 5.
Says they met at Walmart, where they talked in her car, and began arguing. Says they ended up at their normal meeting spot near his grandmother’s home. Then, he says they separated, until #Schelling texted him around 5 AM, saying she was still there. He told her to come over.
#Lucas claims on the call that they went to Parkview the next morning, but hesitated when asked what time. Eventually guesses around 8:30. He says #Schelling went into the hospital alone, and when she came back out, said “I’m not pregnant. I never was.”
@KOAA
It’s important to note, the cell phone tower evidence does not place their phones in the Parkview area, and prosecutors say the hospital has no records of this visit.
@KOAA
After the alleged trip to Parkview, #Lucas says they went to Walmart, where #Schelling got some snacks. Apparently, #Schelling told him to get out at some point. That’s when Lucas says he walked to the back of the Walmart, and his mom picked him up.
@KOAA
@ColetteBordelon
BREAK: We just heard a recorded phone call with #DontheLucas and the Denver detective who first took the case on Feb. 10. First time I’ve ever heard his voice. Really lays out #Lucas’ initial timeline of when he says he last saw #Schelling. Let’s start breaking it down.
@KOAA
The call happened just hours after the Denver detective got the case. #Lucas’ tone sounded very calm and matter of fact. He first says he last heard from #Schelling during a phone call on Feb. 9. He says she called from a private number, and was angry with him.
@KOAA
Says that conversation was short - and that #Schelling was allegedly yelling at him, telling him to “stop leaving her voicemails,” “don’t worry about me,” and “leave me alone.” #Lucas says he tried to scream over her, telling her to contact her family, who was concerned.
@KOAA
Lucas guessed #Schelling was headed or heading to California, to work at a tanning salon and be with an ex-boyfriend. The detective never found any evidence pointing to California.
@KOAA
Lucas alleged that #Schelling lied often about being pregnant. Here’s what he says happened the last time he saw her, on the night of February 4 and into February 5.
Says they met at Walmart, where they talked in her car, and began arguing. Says they ended up at their normal meeting spot near his grandmother’s home. Then, he says they separated, until #Schelling texted him around 5 AM, saying she was still there. He told her to come over.
#Lucas claims on the call that they went to Parkview the next morning, but hesitated when asked what time. Eventually guesses around 8:30. He says #Schelling went into the hospital alone, and when she came back out, said “I’m not pregnant. I never was.”
@KOAA
It’s important to note, the cell phone tower evidence does not place their phones in the Parkview area, and prosecutors say the hospital has no records of this visit.
@KOAA
After the alleged trip to Parkview, #Lucas says they went to Walmart, where #Schelling got some snacks. Apparently, #Schelling told him to get out at some point. That’s when Lucas says he walked to the back of the Walmart, and his mom picked him up.
@KOAA
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Colette Bordelon @ColetteBordelon 2m
BREAK: We just heard a recorded phone call with #DontheLucas and the Denver detective who first took the case on Feb. 10. First time I’ve ever heard his voice. Really lays out #Lucas’ initial timeline of when he says he last saw #Schelling. Let’s start breaking it down.
@KOAA
BREAK: We just heard a recorded phone call with #DontheLucas and the Denver detective who first took the case on Feb. 10. First time I’ve ever heard his voice. Really lays out #Lucas’ initial timeline of when he says he last saw #Schelling. Let’s start breaking it down.
@KOAA
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After lunch, the Denver detective who first took the case Feb 10, 2013 (6 days after Kelsie disappeared) took the witness stand. He called Lucas that morning, and the recording was played in trial.
After lunch, the Denver detective who first took the case Feb 10, 2013 (6 days after Kelsie disappeared) took the witness stand. He called Lucas that morning, and the recording was played in trial.
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Still Missing - CO - Kelsie Schelling, 21, pregnant, Pueblo, 4 Feb 2013 *Arrest*
Bringing forward my post from June 2018 - let's see how it compares to the testimony:
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What we know thus far (and that DL can't keep his hospitals or story straight):
1) Schelling was last seen at the Walmart store in the 4000 block of West Northern Avenue in Pueblo on Feb. 4, 2013.
2) She reportedly texted a photo of her eight-week ultrasound to Lucas, then made the two-hour trip from Denver to Pueblo to meet Lucas at his request (saying he had a surprise for her).
3) She arrived at the Walmart just after 11 p.m., and nearly an hour later, texted that she was “tired of waiting.”
4) Lucas asked her to meet on a street near his grandmother’s house; a half hour later, she wrote: “Where are you … I’ve been here for over an hour just waiting.”
5) She was never heard from again.
6) Lucas later withdrew $400 (2/5/13 @ 11:37 AM) from an ATM using Schelling’s card (allegedly with permission to pay his cell phone bill). He was also seen driving her vehicle to the Walmart parking lot.
7) On Feb. 7, 2013, someone wearing a hoodie was seen driving off in the car from the Walmart parking lot. KS car was later found at St. Mary Corwin Hospital.
8) 5/24/18 hearing -- According to two officers who testified Thursday, Lucas is the only person to admit to seeing Schelling on Feb. 5, 2013. She was last seen by everyone else on Feb. 4, 2013
9) Chad Sinnema with the Denver Police Department said Lucas allegedly told him that he had gone to Parkview Medical Center with Schelling on Feb. 4, where she learned she was no longer pregnant. Schelling dropped Lucas off on the morning of Feb. 5 (between 3 - 5 AM), and it was the last time he saw her, Sinnema said Lucas told him.
10) A different story: Detective Binet told the courtroom that according to Lucas, Schelling came to Pueblo to see a doctor about her pregnancy. Lucas told police they parked in the Walmart parking lot on the city's south side but got in a fight and Schelling kicked him out. (Lucas also told Binet 10 a.m. on Feb. 5 was the last time he saw Schelling -- several hours later than the 3-5 a.m. Lucas told Sinnema).
11) Neither Parkview Medical Center or St Mary Corwin Hospital had record of Schelling ever being treated there. GPS on KS phone showed it traveled to the same location in Pueblo as Lucas' phone -- and did not show her ever visiting Parkview.
2013 cold case involving a missing pregnant woman reopened in Pueblo
Donthe Lucas in court Tuesday for Kelsie Schelling murder case
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Bringing forward my post from June 2018 - let's see how it compares to the testimony:
____________________
What we know thus far (and that DL can't keep his hospitals or story straight):
1) Schelling was last seen at the Walmart store in the 4000 block of West Northern Avenue in Pueblo on Feb. 4, 2013.
2) She reportedly texted a photo of her eight-week ultrasound to Lucas, then made the two-hour trip from Denver to Pueblo to meet Lucas at his request (saying he had a surprise for her).
3) She arrived at the Walmart just after 11 p.m., and nearly an hour later, texted that she was “tired of waiting.”
4) Lucas asked her to meet on a street near his grandmother’s house; a half hour later, she wrote: “Where are you … I’ve been here for over an hour just waiting.”
5) She was never heard from again.
6) Lucas later withdrew $400 (2/5/13 @ 11:37 AM) from an ATM using Schelling’s card (allegedly with permission to pay his cell phone bill). He was also seen driving her vehicle to the Walmart parking lot.
7) On Feb. 7, 2013, someone wearing a hoodie was seen driving off in the car from the Walmart parking lot. KS car was later found at St. Mary Corwin Hospital.
8) 5/24/18 hearing -- According to two officers who testified Thursday, Lucas is the only person to admit to seeing Schelling on Feb. 5, 2013. She was last seen by everyone else on Feb. 4, 2013
9) Chad Sinnema with the Denver Police Department said Lucas allegedly told him that he had gone to Parkview Medical Center with Schelling on Feb. 4, where she learned she was no longer pregnant. Schelling dropped Lucas off on the morning of Feb. 5 (between 3 - 5 AM), and it was the last time he saw her, Sinnema said Lucas told him.
10) A different story: Detective Binet told the courtroom that according to Lucas, Schelling came to Pueblo to see a doctor about her pregnancy. Lucas told police they parked in the Walmart parking lot on the city's south side but got in a fight and Schelling kicked him out. (Lucas also told Binet 10 a.m. on Feb. 5 was the last time he saw Schelling -- several hours later than the 3-5 a.m. Lucas told Sinnema).
11) Neither Parkview Medical Center or St Mary Corwin Hospital had record of Schelling ever being treated there. GPS on KS phone showed it traveled to the same location in Pueblo as Lucas' phone -- and did not show her ever visiting Parkview.
2013 cold case involving a missing pregnant woman reopened in Pueblo
Donthe Lucas in court Tuesday for Kelsie Schelling murder case
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Colette Bordelon [URL='https://twitter.com/ColetteBordelon']@ColetteBordelon [/URL]3m
After the alleged trip to Parkview, #Lucas says they went to Walmart, where #Schelling got some snacks. Apparently, #Schelling told him to get out at some point. That’s when Lucas says he walked to the back of the Walmart, and his mom picked him up.@KOAA
Colette Bordelon @ColetteBordelon 1m
It’s important to note, the cell phone tower evidence does not place their phones in the Parkview area, and prosecutors say the hospital has no records of this visit.
@KOAA
Colette Bordelon @ColetteBordelon 2m
#Lucas claims on the call that they went to Parkview the next morning, but hesitated when asked what time. Eventually guesses around 8:30. He says #Schelling went into the hospital alone, and when she came back out, said “I’m not pregnant. I never was.” @KOAA
Colette Bordelon @ColetteBordelon 3m
Says they met at Walmart, where they talked in her car, and began arguing. Says they ended up at their normal meeting spot near his grandmother’s home. Then, he says they separated, until #Schelling texted him around 5 AM, saying she was still there. He told her to come over.
After the alleged trip to Parkview, #Lucas says they went to Walmart, where #Schelling got some snacks. Apparently, #Schelling told him to get out at some point. That’s when Lucas says he walked to the back of the Walmart, and his mom picked him up.@KOAA
Colette Bordelon @ColetteBordelon 1m
It’s important to note, the cell phone tower evidence does not place their phones in the Parkview area, and prosecutors say the hospital has no records of this visit.
@KOAA
Colette Bordelon @ColetteBordelon 2m
#Lucas claims on the call that they went to Parkview the next morning, but hesitated when asked what time. Eventually guesses around 8:30. He says #Schelling went into the hospital alone, and when she came back out, said “I’m not pregnant. I never was.” @KOAA
Colette Bordelon @ColetteBordelon 3m
Says they met at Walmart, where they talked in her car, and began arguing. Says they ended up at their normal meeting spot near his grandmother’s home. Then, he says they separated, until #Schelling texted him around 5 AM, saying she was still there. He told her to come over.
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OK, If the jury gets these three things out of all the confusing testimony today, I will feel better:
Kasia Kerridge [URL='https://twitter.com/KasiaKerridgeTV']@KasiaKerridgeTV [/URL]1h
In the recording, Lucas had a calm tone of voice, explaining his apparent last time he saw Kelsie was after they apparently went to Parkview. Lucas said in the recording the last time he heard from Kelsie was apparently on the 9th, when she called him for a few minutes.
Kasia Kerridge @KasiaKerridgeTV 57m
The defense came back with the same points they made Day 1, there is no body, no forensic evidence, no weapon and no crime scene in this case. But the detective said it was "suspicous" and a "red flag" that Lucas apparently drove her car and withdrew money from Kelsie's account.
In the recording, Lucas had a calm tone of voice, explaining his apparent last time he saw Kelsie was after they apparently went to Parkview. Lucas said in the recording the last time he heard from Kelsie was apparently on the 9th, when she called him for a few minutes.
Kasia Kerridge @KasiaKerridgeTV 57m
The defense came back with the same points they made Day 1, there is no body, no forensic evidence, no weapon and no crime scene in this case. But the detective said it was "suspicous" and a "red flag" that Lucas apparently drove her car and withdrew money from Kelsie's account.
Colette Bordelon
Donthe Lucas is often described as quiet, but I now know what he sounds like, because of a recorded phone call played in the courtroom today. It's between him and the Denver detective who initially took over the case. There's so much to break down -- my Twitter has a lot already posted. Tune in to
KOAA 5 at 5 and 6, and I'll try to get on Facebook live around 8:30 or earlier tonight. Lucas is accused of murdering 21-year-old Kelsie Schelling, pictured below.
Donthe Lucas is often described as quiet, but I now know what he sounds like, because of a recorded phone call played in the courtroom today. It's between him and the Denver detective who initially took over the case. There's so much to break down -- my Twitter has a lot already posted. Tune in to
KOAA 5 at 5 and 6, and I'll try to get on Facebook live around 8:30 or earlier tonight. Lucas is accused of murdering 21-year-old Kelsie Schelling, pictured below.
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Kelsie Schelling case details texts with Donthe Lucas upon disappearance
Feb 8, 2021
The homicide trial of Donthe Lucas, accused of first-degree murder in the 2013 disappearance of his pregnant girlfriend, Kelsie Schelling, resumed Monday with the testimony of Colorado Bureau of Investigation Agent Kevin Torres.
Torres, continuing his testimony from Friday, began the fourth day of the trial by detailing text exchanges between Lucas and Schelling on the night of Feb. 3 and the day of her disappearance, Feb. 4, breaking them down minute-by-minute and hour-by-hour as the conversation unfolded.
The texts indicate Lucas and Schelling were constantly arguing throughout the night of Feb. 3, both in text and in short phone conversations in which Schelling seemed to continually hang up on Lucas.
Lucas appears to have asked Schelling to come to Pueblo after she got off work the evening of Feb. 3, and he expressed disappointment she would not drive from Denver.
In the texts, Lucas implied Schelling had asked him to come to her OBGYN appointment the following day — the day of her disappearance — saying he wanted to go with her and noting it “seemed like” Schelling wanted him to go.
Schelling replied that she did want Lucas to accompany her to the doctor “until I realized that’s the last place you wanted to be.”
[..]
At 1:28 a.m., Schelling told Lucas, “I won’t tell you anything about the baby. I won’t tell you about my appointment. We won’t speak of it again. Forget I’m pregnant, seriously.”
Just before 3 a.m., according to Torres’ testimony, Schelling texted Lucas, “You don’t have to be in a relationship with me. You don’t have to marry me. You don’t have to have a happy little family with me. You don’t have an obligation to me. You’re good. Don’t worry. Goodnight.”
[..]
Schelling told Lucas at 11:21 a.m. that she had finished her appointment. He asked what the doctors told her and she replied that everything looked good and that her due date was Sept. 13.
Lucas, according to Torres’ recap of the text exchange, replied, “Cool,” then said he wished Schelling didn’t have to work that evening. He asked her to skip work and come to Pueblo to get him, and they continued to argue.
Schelling told Lucas, “I’m not going to come get you so we can fight all day.”
He responded: “I don’t want to fight at all I want to give you this.”
“Give me what?” Schelling asked.
“Just wait and see for yourself,” Lucas said in the texts.
[..]
Lucas and Schelling seemed to reference to a trip Lucas was planning on taking that day, seemingly to Kansas, on which he asked Schelling to accompany him.
Lucas told her to “Just stop wasting time and come.”
Schelling told him she had responsibilities and couldn't just skip work.
Torres detailed a text from Lucas to Schelling just before noon that said, “Um, yeah, you can if you weren’t scared to get fired. I told you I’d give you everything you need when you get here so u don’t need that job.”
Schelling went to work that evening, and she and Lucas continued to argue over text.
Before 6 p.m., Torres said, Schelling texted Lucas, “Then step up and make a relationship with me work. Stop acting like you can’t do it. Either make things work with me or walk away.”
[..]
Schelling texted Lucas at 8:50 p.m., saying, “I’m coming now. So be ready.”
At 9:19 p.m., Schelling texted Lucas to say that she was in Monument. At 9:56 p.m., she texted again, saying, “Almost there. Where do I go?”
Lucas, according to Torres, directed her to go to Walmart. She texted him at 10:20 p.m., saying she had arrived. Lucas replied that he’d be there shortly.
But at 11:10 p.m., Lucas had still not arrived at Walmart. At 11:14 p.m., he changed plans and told Schelling to meet him “where you usually do,” seemingly referring to an intersection near his grandmother’s home where Schelling had picked him up on previous occasions.
She texted him at 11:18 p.m., saying she had arrived at the meeting spot. She texted again at 11:24 p.m., saying, “Where are you? I’ve been here for over an hour just waiting.”
[..]
At 11:29 a.m. Feb. 5, Torres said Lucas texted his mother, Sara Lucas, “Going to make sure she didn’t leave anything in the house. Then you can take her back home.”
[..]
“OK. Love you,” Sara Lucas said. “You ready for a smoke and a pancake?”
“Hell yeah. Lol,” Torres said Donthe replied. “Let me get her out of here. Love you, too.”
Around the same time, texts were also being exchanged from Lucas' and Schelling’s phones.
“If it’s really what happened I’m so sorry you had to go through that alone,” Lucas said in a text to Schelling.
[..]
While this text was being sent, Torres said Schelling’s phone was pinging off of a cell tower within the area of Canon National Bank, where Donthe Lucas was seen on camera withdrawing $400 from Schelling’s bank account while driving her 2011 Chevy Cruze.
Torres said in the surveillance video showing the cash withdrawal, Schelling cannot be seen in the vehicle.
Shortly before noon, other texts were exchanged between Lucas and Schelling’s phones, which the prosecution alleges were not actually sent by Schelling.
Using cell phone data from Lucas' and Schelling’s phones, the prosecution believes both phones were in the same location as the texts were being exchanged.
One text from Schelling’s phone to Lucas’ phone at 11:56 a.m., said “After u get that money pick me up and stay out of my life!”
Another, sent at 11:59 a.m., said, “You can bring my car to Denver tonight. I have to go to the doctor. I don’t feel right. You can use the money and fill the car up…”
[..]
At 1:34 p.m., Lucas sent another text saying, “Sorry again about the loss,” telling Schelling he will soon be going up to Denver to drop off her car.
Torres said Lucas never took the car to Denver. Her phone, according to Torres and Eicher, was also never recorded as having left Pueblo.
Feb 8, 2021
The homicide trial of Donthe Lucas, accused of first-degree murder in the 2013 disappearance of his pregnant girlfriend, Kelsie Schelling, resumed Monday with the testimony of Colorado Bureau of Investigation Agent Kevin Torres.
Torres, continuing his testimony from Friday, began the fourth day of the trial by detailing text exchanges between Lucas and Schelling on the night of Feb. 3 and the day of her disappearance, Feb. 4, breaking them down minute-by-minute and hour-by-hour as the conversation unfolded.
The texts indicate Lucas and Schelling were constantly arguing throughout the night of Feb. 3, both in text and in short phone conversations in which Schelling seemed to continually hang up on Lucas.
Lucas appears to have asked Schelling to come to Pueblo after she got off work the evening of Feb. 3, and he expressed disappointment she would not drive from Denver.
In the texts, Lucas implied Schelling had asked him to come to her OBGYN appointment the following day — the day of her disappearance — saying he wanted to go with her and noting it “seemed like” Schelling wanted him to go.
Schelling replied that she did want Lucas to accompany her to the doctor “until I realized that’s the last place you wanted to be.”
[..]
At 1:28 a.m., Schelling told Lucas, “I won’t tell you anything about the baby. I won’t tell you about my appointment. We won’t speak of it again. Forget I’m pregnant, seriously.”
Just before 3 a.m., according to Torres’ testimony, Schelling texted Lucas, “You don’t have to be in a relationship with me. You don’t have to marry me. You don’t have to have a happy little family with me. You don’t have an obligation to me. You’re good. Don’t worry. Goodnight.”
[..]
Schelling told Lucas at 11:21 a.m. that she had finished her appointment. He asked what the doctors told her and she replied that everything looked good and that her due date was Sept. 13.
Lucas, according to Torres’ recap of the text exchange, replied, “Cool,” then said he wished Schelling didn’t have to work that evening. He asked her to skip work and come to Pueblo to get him, and they continued to argue.
Schelling told Lucas, “I’m not going to come get you so we can fight all day.”
He responded: “I don’t want to fight at all I want to give you this.”
“Give me what?” Schelling asked.
“Just wait and see for yourself,” Lucas said in the texts.
[..]
Lucas and Schelling seemed to reference to a trip Lucas was planning on taking that day, seemingly to Kansas, on which he asked Schelling to accompany him.
Lucas told her to “Just stop wasting time and come.”
Schelling told him she had responsibilities and couldn't just skip work.
Torres detailed a text from Lucas to Schelling just before noon that said, “Um, yeah, you can if you weren’t scared to get fired. I told you I’d give you everything you need when you get here so u don’t need that job.”
Schelling went to work that evening, and she and Lucas continued to argue over text.
Before 6 p.m., Torres said, Schelling texted Lucas, “Then step up and make a relationship with me work. Stop acting like you can’t do it. Either make things work with me or walk away.”
[..]
Schelling texted Lucas at 8:50 p.m., saying, “I’m coming now. So be ready.”
At 9:19 p.m., Schelling texted Lucas to say that she was in Monument. At 9:56 p.m., she texted again, saying, “Almost there. Where do I go?”
Lucas, according to Torres, directed her to go to Walmart. She texted him at 10:20 p.m., saying she had arrived. Lucas replied that he’d be there shortly.
But at 11:10 p.m., Lucas had still not arrived at Walmart. At 11:14 p.m., he changed plans and told Schelling to meet him “where you usually do,” seemingly referring to an intersection near his grandmother’s home where Schelling had picked him up on previous occasions.
She texted him at 11:18 p.m., saying she had arrived at the meeting spot. She texted again at 11:24 p.m., saying, “Where are you? I’ve been here for over an hour just waiting.”
[..]
At 11:29 a.m. Feb. 5, Torres said Lucas texted his mother, Sara Lucas, “Going to make sure she didn’t leave anything in the house. Then you can take her back home.”
[..]
“OK. Love you,” Sara Lucas said. “You ready for a smoke and a pancake?”
“Hell yeah. Lol,” Torres said Donthe replied. “Let me get her out of here. Love you, too.”
Around the same time, texts were also being exchanged from Lucas' and Schelling’s phones.
“If it’s really what happened I’m so sorry you had to go through that alone,” Lucas said in a text to Schelling.
[..]
While this text was being sent, Torres said Schelling’s phone was pinging off of a cell tower within the area of Canon National Bank, where Donthe Lucas was seen on camera withdrawing $400 from Schelling’s bank account while driving her 2011 Chevy Cruze.
Torres said in the surveillance video showing the cash withdrawal, Schelling cannot be seen in the vehicle.
Shortly before noon, other texts were exchanged between Lucas and Schelling’s phones, which the prosecution alleges were not actually sent by Schelling.
Using cell phone data from Lucas' and Schelling’s phones, the prosecution believes both phones were in the same location as the texts were being exchanged.
One text from Schelling’s phone to Lucas’ phone at 11:56 a.m., said “After u get that money pick me up and stay out of my life!”
Another, sent at 11:59 a.m., said, “You can bring my car to Denver tonight. I have to go to the doctor. I don’t feel right. You can use the money and fill the car up…”
[..]
At 1:34 p.m., Lucas sent another text saying, “Sorry again about the loss,” telling Schelling he will soon be going up to Denver to drop off her car.
Torres said Lucas never took the car to Denver. Her phone, according to Torres and Eicher, was also never recorded as having left Pueblo.
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After arriving in Pueblo, DL kept Kelsie waiting for almost two hours -- an hour at Walmart plus more waiting on a side street by his Grandmother's house!
Is this where DL hoped to implicate his mom, Sara, as his alibi? Did he want Sara to say she drove Kelsie back home to Denver? It doesn't look like Sara agreed to this version since it's not explained where Kelsie's at during the time he's "smokin" and eating pancakes. We know she's not at either of the two hospitals in Pueblo (Parkview or Corwin).
Yup, page out of Frazee's book -- DL impersonating Kelsie -- sending himself texts from her phone.
Sara did not take Kelsie home to Denver.
Kelsie was not at any hospital.
DL never returned Kelsie's car to Denver.
Where is Kelsie?
DL, where did you put Kelsie before momma made you a pancake breakfast
and you were wiping out her bank account?
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The last person to take the stand, #Schelling’s brother, Colby. Before that, prosecutors called the OB/GYN who examined #Schelling on February 3, 2013 to the stand.
@KOAA
The doctor said she’s not medically certain #Lucas is the father of #Schelling’s baby, and cannot say if the baby was a girl at the eight week examination.
@KOAA
The doctor says #Schelling was due on September 13, 2013. She had a healthy pregnancy. Also, says there was no risk for miscarriage at the time after studying #Schelling’s medical records. I mention that because #Lucas told his mom she had a miscarriage.
@KOAA
Now, let’s get to #Schelling’s brother, Colby. He never met #Lucas before going to Pueblo, when the family went to #Lucas’ mom’s home and Lucas answered the door. The family was searching for #Schelling. Colby participated in four or five searches before moving the next year.
Colby says #Lucas seemed disinterested and disengaged. Says he provided very little information to the family, and never mentioned Parkview. Colby hasn’t communicated with his sister since February 4, 2013 - when she sent him a picture of her ultrasound.
@KOAA
The defense asks Colby if he ever invited #Lucas to the searches. He says no. At the end of today’s cross-examination, the defense asks if #Kelsie and her dad fought. Colby says they were both strong-willed people. His cross-examination will continue tomorrow.
@KOAA
@ColetteBordelo
The last person to take the stand, #Schelling’s brother, Colby. Before that, prosecutors called the OB/GYN who examined #Schelling on February 3, 2013 to the stand.
@KOAA
The doctor said she’s not medically certain #Lucas is the father of #Schelling’s baby, and cannot say if the baby was a girl at the eight week examination.
@KOAA
The doctor says #Schelling was due on September 13, 2013. She had a healthy pregnancy. Also, says there was no risk for miscarriage at the time after studying #Schelling’s medical records. I mention that because #Lucas told his mom she had a miscarriage.
@KOAA
Now, let’s get to #Schelling’s brother, Colby. He never met #Lucas before going to Pueblo, when the family went to #Lucas’ mom’s home and Lucas answered the door. The family was searching for #Schelling. Colby participated in four or five searches before moving the next year.
Colby says #Lucas seemed disinterested and disengaged. Says he provided very little information to the family, and never mentioned Parkview. Colby hasn’t communicated with his sister since February 4, 2013 - when she sent him a picture of her ultrasound.
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The defense asks Colby if he ever invited #Lucas to the searches. He says no. At the end of today’s cross-examination, the defense asks if #Kelsie and her dad fought. Colby says they were both strong-willed people. His cross-examination will continue tomorrow.
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Colby says #Lucas seemed disinterested and disengaged. Says he provided very little information to the family, and never mentioned Parkview. Colby hasn’t communicated with his sister since February 4, 2013 - when she sent him a picture of her ultrasound. @KOAA
Colette Bordelon @ColetteBordelon 4m
Now, let’s get to #Schelling’s brother, Colby. He never met #Lucas before going to Pueblo, when the family went to #Lucas’ mom’s home and Lucas answered the door. The family was searching for #Schelling. Colby participated in four or five searches before moving the next year
Colette Bordelon @ColetteBordelon 12m
The defense asks Colby if he ever invited #Lucas to the searches. He says no. At the end of today’s cross-examination, the defense asks if #Kelsie and her dad fought. Colby says they were both strong-willed people. His cross-examination will continue tomorrow.@KOAA
Colby says #Lucas seemed disinterested and disengaged. Says he provided very little information to the family, and never mentioned Parkview. Colby hasn’t communicated with his sister since February 4, 2013 - when she sent him a picture of her ultrasound. @KOAA
Colette Bordelon @ColetteBordelon 4m
Now, let’s get to #Schelling’s brother, Colby. He never met #Lucas before going to Pueblo, when the family went to #Lucas’ mom’s home and Lucas answered the door. The family was searching for #Schelling. Colby participated in four or five searches before moving the next year
Colette Bordelon @ColetteBordelon 12m
The defense asks Colby if he ever invited #Lucas to the searches. He says no. At the end of today’s cross-examination, the defense asks if #Kelsie and her dad fought. Colby says they were both strong-willed people. His cross-examination will continue tomorrow.@KOAA
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Colby will start out testimony on Tuesday.
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was very disengaged and disinterested in the matter" Colby said of Lucas. Prosecutors asked about harassment Donthe received from the Facebook Page he and his wife created in reaction to Kelsie's disappearance. Colby said he hadn't because he hadn't been looking at the page.
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error wrongly indicated that this was Kelsie' 2nd pregnancy. The dr. confirmed Kelsie reported it was her first. Lastly, Kelsie's brother Colby took the stand. About a week after Kelsie went missing, he went to Lucas's mother's home with Pueblo Police asking about Kelsie. "He
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medical center has no record of this visit. Then, the doctor who saw Kelsie at her first and only prenatal exam testified saying: -Kelsie's pregnancy was healthy with no troubling signs to suggest a miscarriage -Kelsie's due date was around September 13th -An electronic filing
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went to Parkview Medical Center on Feb 5 and Kelsie said she had a miscarriage. (As noted, Donthe told his mother about the miscarriage on the fourth) Lucas also said he last spoke to Kelsie over the phone, from a private number, on Feb. 9, he left this out to Sinnema. Parkview
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call Binet made with Lucas where Lucas him the two had been arguing and she drove down to talk about their relationship. Lucas told Binet he didn't want a relationship and thought Kelsie talking about pregnancy was her trying to manipulate him. He told Binet that he and Kelsie
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A busy monday in the trial today. Here's what happened after lunch: The Det. Ted Binet (Denver Police) took Kelsie's case testified that he got the case, along with others, on February 10th. He called family, friend and eventually Donthe. Prosecutors played the tape of the phone
Colby will start out testimony on Tuesday.
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was very disengaged and disinterested in the matter" Colby said of Lucas. Prosecutors asked about harassment Donthe received from the Facebook Page he and his wife created in reaction to Kelsie's disappearance. Colby said he hadn't because he hadn't been looking at the page.
Brandon Thompson [URL='https://twitter.com/BThompsonNews']@BThompsonNews [/URL]33m
error wrongly indicated that this was Kelsie' 2nd pregnancy. The dr. confirmed Kelsie reported it was her first. Lastly, Kelsie's brother Colby took the stand. About a week after Kelsie went missing, he went to Lucas's mother's home with Pueblo Police asking about Kelsie. "He
Brandon Thompson [URL='https://twitter.com/BThompsonNews']@BThompsonNews [/URL]32m
medical center has no record of this visit. Then, the doctor who saw Kelsie at her first and only prenatal exam testified saying: -Kelsie's pregnancy was healthy with no troubling signs to suggest a miscarriage -Kelsie's due date was around September 13th -An electronic filing
Brandon Thompson [URL='https://twitter.com/BThompsonNews']@BThompsonNews [/URL]32m
went to Parkview Medical Center on Feb 5 and Kelsie said she had a miscarriage. (As noted, Donthe told his mother about the miscarriage on the fourth) Lucas also said he last spoke to Kelsie over the phone, from a private number, on Feb. 9, he left this out to Sinnema. Parkview
Brandon Thompson @BThompsonNews 30m
call Binet made with Lucas where Lucas him the two had been arguing and she drove down to talk about their relationship. Lucas told Binet he didn't want a relationship and thought Kelsie talking about pregnancy was her trying to manipulate him. He told Binet that he and Kelsie
Brandon Thompson [URL='https://twitter.com/BThompsonNews']@BThompsonNews [/URL]30m
A busy monday in the trial today. Here's what happened after lunch: The Det. Ted Binet (Denver Police) took Kelsie's case testified that he got the case, along with others, on February 10th. He called family, friend and eventually Donthe. Prosecutors played the tape of the phone
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Bolded — he really screwed up here
(thank God)
PS. Reading those texts to/from his mom really made my blood boil.
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END OF DAY 4: Law enforcement officials who testified today said Lucas told them he and Kelsie went to Parkview Medical Center on Feb. 5, 2013, where she allegedly told Lucas she apparently wasn’t pregnant anymore. The prosecution said there were no records of Kelsie being at Parkview at all.
In a recorded message played in the trial between Lucas and a Denver PD detective on Feb. 10, 2013, Lucas told the detective the last time he saw Kelsie was after they apparently went to Parkview. Lucas said in the recorded phone call, he and Kelsie apparently stopped by the southside Walmart after, where she dropped him off. Lucas also said in that call that Kelsie apparently called him and yelled at him briefly on Feb. 9, 2013.
Kelsie’s OBGYN took the stand testifying Kelsie was not considered an at-risk pregnancy for miscarriage during her first OB appointment on Feb. 4, 2013.
The defense came back with the same points they made on day 1 of the trial, saying there’s no body, no crime scene, no weapon or forensic evidence in this case. But, a Denver PD detective on the stand Monday said it was “suspicious” and a “red flag” that Lucas would apparently drive the car and take out money from a missing person’s account… like Lucas is accused of doing.
END OF DAY 4: Law enforcement officials who testified today said Lucas told them he and Kelsie went to Parkview Medical Center on Feb. 5, 2013, where she allegedly told Lucas she apparently wasn’t pregnant anymore. The prosecution said there were no records of Kelsie being at Parkview at all.
In a recorded message played in the trial between Lucas and a Denver PD detective on Feb. 10, 2013, Lucas told the detective the last time he saw Kelsie was after they apparently went to Parkview. Lucas said in the recorded phone call, he and Kelsie apparently stopped by the southside Walmart after, where she dropped him off. Lucas also said in that call that Kelsie apparently called him and yelled at him briefly on Feb. 9, 2013.
Kelsie’s OBGYN took the stand testifying Kelsie was not considered an at-risk pregnancy for miscarriage during her first OB appointment on Feb. 4, 2013.
The defense came back with the same points they made on day 1 of the trial, saying there’s no body, no crime scene, no weapon or forensic evidence in this case. But, a Denver PD detective on the stand Monday said it was “suspicious” and a “red flag” that Lucas would apparently drive the car and take out money from a missing person’s account… like Lucas is accused of doing.
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