CO - Kimberlee Singler, 35, charged w/murder of her children, girl, 9 & boy, 7, injuring third child, age 11, CO Springs, 19 Dec 2023

Does anyone have any knowledge of what conditions are like where she's being held now? Comparable to an American jail? I assume it's modern and clean and they treat them with respect, but I could have the wrong idea. I just wouldn't expect it to be horrible, like we know some 3rd world prisons are! If I were going to end up in jail in a foreign country, I think the UK would be my top choice, maybe after Canada, hah. But for her, this is just delaying the inevitable, isn't it? I don't think any of her time here will count against whatever prison sentence she'll eventually receive, if convicted. But I suspect she probably has it pretty easy where she is now.
In UK, the term "prison" is used interchangeably for both inmates already convicted and those on remand-- where both can be housed. Reportedly, there are currently 12 female prisons in England and Wales and they are not exempt from funding problems which appear to plague all countries.


Jan 21, 2025

Inside HMP Downview: one of 12 women's prisons in England & Wales​





 
"Mom accused of shooting dead her two children
set to be extradited back to US for trial
after fleeing to London.'

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A Breach of Her European Human Rights …

What about the human rights of the children she murdered/attempted to murder?

Singer shouldn’t be afforded european human rights, she’s not a citizen there. Absconding from one country to another to avoid being charged with murder shouldn’t have positive results. This is insane!!!
 
A Breach of Her European Human Rights …

What about the human rights of the children she murdered/attempted to murder?

Singer shouldn’t be afforded european human rights, she’s not a citizen there. Absconding from one country to another to avoid being charged with murder shouldn’t have positive results. This is insane!!!
Just my opinion, but since all criminals behave badly, it doesn't mean that the rest of us should follow their example.
 
I'm just wondering...

For those who know...

if this case was in reverse...
A British accused child killer found in USA...
Would the USA be apt to push for certain conditions prior to agreeing with extradition?

JMO...
 
I'm a little confused. Did I say anything about following examples of bad criminal behavior?
I interpreted what you wrote as stating that because she had (allegedly) violated others' human rights, she should not have human rights.

It's not like some human rights are waveable: okay, we can't bury her alive, but we should be able to skip the whole thing about not sending visitors back to countries where they will face a more severe punishment than we would inflict. Or we should be able to wave someone's human rights because we're sending her back to the US, rather than, say, North Korea.

Once countries decide something is a human right, it applies to all humans, without condition, regardless of anything else. They just need to be human.

JMO
 
KS's lawyers argued that extradition would violate her rights under European human rights law, calling the prospect of a life sentence without parole inhumane.

This argument doesn't follow because even UK Judges recognize and reserve the penalty of "whole life" for the most serious crimes - mostly murder - where the level of planning, vulnerability of victims and scale of killing is particularly high. Glad the Court didn't buy Singler's sorry argument!

There are currently more than 70 whole life prisoners who will never be released. The sentence means the offender is extremely likely to die in prison as it precludes any possibility of being released back into society.

3/1/2024

 
I'm just wondering...

For those who know...

if this case was in reverse...
A British accused child killer found in USA...
Would the USA be apt to push for certain conditions prior to agreeing with extradition?


JMO...

Generally, Extradition by the US is only granted when there is an extradition treaty in place, and even then, there are exceptions. For example, Extradition is not granted if the alleged crime is political, or if there is a substantial risk of torture or other human rights violations.

 
I don't think there's a question that KS will NOT be extradited to Colorado to stand trial for drugging and shooting two of her children, and attempting to murder a third child who survived. The only question is when and/or how long will KS delay the inevitable. :mad:

District Judge John Zani (Westminster Magistrates Court) rejected KS's challenge to U.S. extradition and said he was satisfied that her extradition would be lawful because there was a "working mechanism of review in the form of executive clemency," and also said he was "of the firm opinion that the defendant's extradition to the United States of America to face criminal prosecution complies" with her constitutional rights.

This decision came after Westminster Magistrates Court heard graphic details of KS's alleged crimes in a series of hearings over the past year.

And just to be clear, on March 23, 2020, Colorado became the 22nd state to abolish the death penalty, and prior to enacting legislation to judicially abolish the DP, had already halted executions by moratorium. I find it important to state these facts on the record because over zealous defense attorneys are known to forget them when arguing against extradition due to “inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment” pursuant to the Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights — a legally binding statute followed by 46 countries, including the U.K.

I believe the British home secretary (Yvette Cooper) next reviews the case to serve as verification for applicable State Statutes since the United States is not a one size fits all country.

Reportedly, KS intends to appeal the decision to the British Supreme Court, and then possibly at the European Court of Human Rights located in Strasbourg, France, further delaying her return.

As I've opined before, all the above are the within a defendant's constitutional right but unfortunately, will only serve to delay her return to El Paso County, Colorado. MOO

Extradition Ruling - NBC News

 
I guess the DA in El Paso County thinks she will be back by February - new hearing date for her child custody case. Before the court site only had the 6/2 hearing date.

Date: 2/3/2025
Time: 1:30 PM
Name: SINGLER, KIMBERLEE
Case Number: 2023JV31046
Hearing Type: Hearing
Location: El Paso County
Appearance Type:
Courtroom: 16

Date: 6/2/2025
Time: 8:30 AM
Name: SINGLER, KIMBERLEE
Case Number: 2023JV31046
Hearing Type: Review Hearing
Location: El Paso County
Appearance Type: IN PERSON
Courtroom: 16


link: Docket Search | Colorado Judicial Branch
 
I have in my notes that she has 14 days to appeal - so from 1/24/25 hearing - counting 14 days I come up with 2/7/25 - if ONLY counting business days - it would be 2/13.
Do not know how she'll make her 2/3 hearing date... maybe the DA knows more than me! LOL! :D
 
KS's lawyers argued that extradition would violate her rights under European human rights law, calling the prospect of a life sentence without parole inhumane.

This argument doesn't follow because even UK Judges recognize and reserve the penalty of "whole life" for the most serious crimes - mostly murder - where the level of planning, vulnerability of victims and scale of killing is particularly high. Glad the Court didn't buy Singler's sorry argument!

There are currently more than 70 whole life prisoners who will never be released. The sentence means the offender is extremely likely to die in prison as it precludes any possibility of being released back into society.

3/1/2024


Very interesting article... thanks for posting.
 
I guess the DA in El Paso County thinks she will be back by February - new hearing date for her child custody case. Before the court site only had the 6/2 hearing date.

I recall when the Court set hearing date for last Sept too!

Since MSM generally doesn't report on family court matters, I suppose this hearings may or may not be happening without her. She could be calling in or attending via WebEx as she did before leaving the US.

I last recall the surviving child was in foster care. I lost track if the father was seeking custody. Perhaps he's a party to the February hearing date(?)...
 
The daughter who survived her attack initially told police that a man entered their home from the patio and attacked them. But after recovering from her wounds and being transferred to a foster home, she told a caretaker that her mother was responsible and had asked her to lie to police.

I last recall the surviving child was in foster care. I lost track if the father was seeking custody. Perhaps he's a party to the February hearing date(?)...
 
I guess the DA in El Paso County thinks she will be back by February - new hearing date for her child custody case. Before the court site only had the 6/2 hearing date.

Date: 2/3/2025
Time: 1:30 PM
Name: SINGLER, KIMBERLEE
Case Number: 2023JV31046
Hearing Type: Hearing
Location: El Paso County
Appearance Type:
Courtroom: 16

Date: 6/2/2025
Time: 8:30 AM
Name: SINGLER, KIMBERLEE
Case Number: 2023JV31046
Hearing Type: Review Hearing
Location: El Paso County
Appearance Type: IN PERSON
Courtroom: 16


link: Docket Search | Colorado Judicial Branch

Confirming the same hearings/dates and case number populate if searched for father (Wentz, Kevin).
 

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