CO - Possible Serial Shooter Has Colorado Drivers on Edge #1

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Early on I thought this could be a 2-3 foolish teens, acting like foolish teens. Doing this just for kicks, out of boredom or whatever. Looking at the amazing map, spreadsheet, and graph points in a much uglier direction. If it was just teens doing it for kicks it would be larger number of windows in a day/ night. More like the shattered windows at the car dealership. No teen(s) is going to shatter one window today, 3 another, and so on.
I'm still hoping to hear back from that reporter. If I don't hear from him I'll try a few others. Someone has to know if this is still happening, and I think it is. I don't think the media, FBI, or anyone else is scaring this sick freak. I think they are enjoying it.
 
  • #443
"Spree killers, on the other hand, pack their mayhem into a brief time span—killing becomes a full-time job, so to speak. The spree is often precipitated by a specific rage-inducing event, such as a romantic breakup or family spat. Loved ones are typically the initial victims; the killer then goes on the lam, slaughtering people along the way without much forethought. These victims do not fit any discernible profile but may be dispatched out of necessity—say, because the killer needs their car. Because of the high-profile, indiscriminate nature of the killings, police attention is intense, and the killer is usually apprehended (or commits suicide) after a few weeks.*Andrew Cunanan, who chalked up five murders during a 1997 cross-country trek, is often pointed to as the prototypical spree killer."

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...s_and_spree_killers_whats_the_difference.html
 
  • #444
Wait a minute---

Let's take a look at both incidents that occurred on 4/22, they day Romero was shot.
From Forager's spreadsheet above, it appears that there was a report of a window shattering on the same day at 9:50 pm, east Eisenhower Blvd, east on US 34 near N. Cleveland (Loveland Police).

A couple things to ponder IF there is a possible connection between these 2 incidents:

The incidents occurred an hour and 20 minutes apart (how far apart exactly, distance wise?).
It would appear that if these are connected, the perp was on a mission that night---the first attempt was unsuccessful, he/she was going for a shot landed...


I think if we compare incidents by date, it could be useful:

I'm going to compare the incidents to each other that occurred on 4/23, 3 of them.

And 4/29. 3 of them.

I need to go back, there was one day I thought that there were reports of 6 incidents...

The two shootings on 4/22/15 (the Romero shooting and the Eisenhower shattering) were 12.5 miles apart as the car drives.

There were two days with three shootings each, but none with six. Not among the ones I've noted. The spreadsheet is sorted by date, making it easy to compare a single day's incidents to one another.
 
  • #445
From an old article:

"The Washington sniper doesn't quite conform to this taxonomy of evil. The frequency of the killings and randomness of the victims suggests that he's a standard spree killer. But he is also confining his activity to one geographic area and premeditating the slayings, two peculiarities that jibe more closely with the serial-killer model."

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...s_and_spree_killers_whats_the_difference.html
 
  • #446
Informative info/photos from the FBI's website re: the beltway snipers:
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2007/october/snipers_102207

Here's their timeline for reference / comparison fwiw:

"Timeline of Terror

October 2: Man killed while crossing a parking lot in Wheaton, Maryland
October 3: Five more murders, four in Maryland and one in D.C.
October 4: Woman wounded while loading her van at Spotsylvania Mall
October 7: 13-year-old-boy wounded at a school in Bowie, Maryland
October 9: Man murdered near Manassas, Virginia, while pumping gas
October 11: Man shot dead near Fredericksburg, Virginia, while pumping gas
October 14: FBI analyst Linda Franklin killed near Falls Church, Virginia
October 19: Man wounded outside a steakhouse in Ashland, Virginia
October 22: A bus driver, the final victim, killed in Aspen Hill, Maryland
October 24: Muhammad and Malvo arrested in Maryland"
 
  • #447
More about the Beltway Snipers, fwiw:

"What evidence experts from the FBI and other police forces found there was both revealing and shocking. The car had a hole cut in the trunk near the license plate (see photo below, left) so that shots could be fired from within the vehicle. It was, in effect, a rolling sniper’s nest.

Also found in the car were:

The Bushmaster .223-caliber rifle that had been used in each attack;A rifle’s scope for taking aim and a tripod to steady the shots;A backseat that had the sheet metal removed between the passenger compartment and the trunk, enabling the shooter to get into the trunk from inside the car (see photo below, right);The Chevy Caprice owner’s manual with—the FBI Laboratory later detected—written impressions of the one of the demand notes;The digital voice recorder used by both Malvo and Muhammad to make extortion demands;A laptop stolen from one of the victims containing maps of the shooting sites and getaway routes from some of the crime scenes; and Maps, walkie-talkies, and many more items."

http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2007/october/snipers_102207
 
  • #448
Interesting, it seems many professonals struggled with classifying/attempting to profile the Beltway Snipers during their activity:
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-10-08-sniper-profile-1acover_x.htm

"This is a weird blend between spree and serial killing," says Robert Ressler, a retired FBI agent who pioneered the agency's techniques to draw psychological profiles that have become standard investigative tools.

"A true spree killer would have killed in Maryland and would have kept going south," he says. "They have no money, no employment. They kill for mobility. They kill for a car. They are on a desperate fugitive run that is bound to end."

The search for this killer, says Charles Moose, chief of the Montgomery County police department who is heading the investigation, may come down to a tip from someone who knows the shooter. Federal agents looked for the Unabomber for 18 years and arrested Ted Kaczynski only after his brother turned him in.

And, investigators are fighting the clock. The one thing criminologists say they are certain of is that the killer, this hybrid, will strike again."
 
  • #449
More from the Beltway Sniper article:
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-10-08-sniper-profile-1acover_x.htm

"While the FBI struggles to compile a psychological profile of the sniper, crime statistics show that such multiple murders are usually committed by white men, criminologists say. If the shooter is operating alone, he would probably be 35-45 years old, single and unemployed.

Ressler thinks Washington area police are searching for two men — the killer and a driver. He thinks it would be more difficult for a lone shooter to aim the weapon, fire with such accuracy and then drive away unseen. That would take more time.

"A strong leader and a follower," Ressler says. "The leader needs this guy to drive. I would say the leader is the shooter. The risks that they are taking indicates to me that at least one of them may be in trouble with the law. They see the end of the tunnel coming. They're going to go out in a blaze of glory."
 
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Forager, could you please be so kind to highlight/differentiate in red or with a star the shootings of CR and JJ on this graph (if you have more time---I don't mean to overload you or ask too much, but I'd like to see this indicated in this new graph format to see if anything new possibly jumps out...we've looked at this in so many ways, map, timeline, etc etc, lets see how it looks in the graph fwiw, tia!

Does this help? times table 6_3_15.png
 
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"Identifying 'the hunting area'

Geographic profiling is based on the theory that criminals tend to operate in areas they are familiar with — what Rossmo calls "the hunting area."

These profilers try to zero in on the likely home or work place of the killer by analyzing the sites of the attacks, the places where bodies were left, the availability of transportation and the types of roads and highways to both the attack sites and dump sites.

Rossmo says the system works best when there have been at least five crime locations. These profilers feed that information into a data bank that also contains lists of suspects, police reports and motor vehicle records.

The computer processes that information using a complex mathematical algorithm to generate a "jeopardy surface" — a two-dimensional or three-dimensional map showing the suspect's likeliest location.

That often allows investigators to narrow their search from a 10-square-mile area to a few blocks.

"It will not tell you the person was 3 feet tall, had one arm, one leg and lived in the apartment in the back," says Philip MacLaren, vice president of Environmental Criminology Research in Vancouver, which sells software developed from Rossmo's research. Instead, he says, it helps investigators focus on a particular area.

Geographic profiling is not nearly as well known in this country as psychological profiling. In fact, Rossmo says that while Canada and Britain each have three investigators trained in that field, he is the only one in the USA with those skills.

As geographic profiling has become better known in the USA, Rossmo, 47, has been called in to help on dozens of cases that range from credit card fraud to murder.

His work helped solve the so-called Southside rapist case in Lafayette, La., where a series of burglary-rapes occurred in 1984 and 1995.

"A psychological profile is the who," he says. "A geographic profile is the where.""

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-10-08-sniper-profile-1acover_x.htm
 
  • #452
Serial Killers - The DC Sniper Documentary
[video=youtube;pNvGVRJx8UY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNvGVRJx8UY[/video]

I guess I'll try to watch this sometime. It appears to be 45 minutes long, might be interesting and valid for a case refresher. I certainly remember when this happened.
 
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I have the feeling our creeper doesn't need a map of the area. Flat, open land, lots of exits, easy to get away. He/she/they knew what they were doing when they picked that area.
Going back to the idea of a college student.... Is April significant in any way? This person wants to scare people, wants people to take notice of them, wants people to view them as important/smart/capable as they imagine they are. In their own twisted mind they have a point to prove. Hopefully they are caught before anyone else gets hurt.
( if I remember correctly We have a forensic psychologist as a member here. They would probably be an asset here. Unfortunately I can't remember the screen name. Migraine fog at its finest)
 
  • #455
"In addition to the confusion over serial murder, there has been as much confusion over how to differentiate it from incidents involving spree or mass murder. Thus, to achieve clarity for my own research, I define the terms as follows:

*1)** Mass murder is a focused and singular act, occurring in one basic locale, even if the killer travels to several loosely-related spots in that general area. There are at least four fatalities and the incident lasts no more than twenty-four hours.

*2)** A spree killing involves a string of at least three murders in several locations, arising from a key precipitating incident that continues to fuel the need to kill, and the murders occur fairly close in time. The time period lasts significantly longer than that of a mass murderer (more than a day)."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/shadow-boxing/201302/christopher-dorner-spree-or-serial-killer

Excellent work, everyone.. My interpretation as to why serial and mass/spree killers were decreased from 3 victims to two by the FBI BAU2 in 2005 was to lower the threshold allowing the FBI BAU2 and other federal agencies to assist local and state LEAs with additional investigative resources quicker.

In 2009 I was following two serial killers and one spree killer investigation in 3 different states. The spree killer was active in Gaffney, SC, over the July 4th holiday. He was a recently paroled inmate on a drug>meth> binge. Within 36 hours of his <3D colored>sketch being released to the public, he was killed by LE in a vacant house after an aware citizen's 911 call. The two serial killers were apprehended within 24 hours of their sketch and vehicle descriptions being released to msm; local/national. All three cases were successful due to aware citizens combined with excellent police work.

Gaffney <spree> killer slain, ending 5-murder spree
http://www.thestate.com/news/local/article14344643.html
 
  • #456
What about someone who needs to keep up socializing on the weekends?

Here is info about when John Jacoby was found:

http://www.westword.com/news/update...-shootings-of-john-jacoby-cori-romero-6726797

On May 18, 2015, at approximately 10:15 a.m., 47-year-old John Jacoby was riding his bicycle (with a small trailer attached) north of the town of Windsor, Colorado, on WCR 15 when he was shot two times by an unknown assailant about two miles north of Main Street. He died at the scene shortly thereafter.
Jacoby was well known by locals and was often seen riding his bicycle around town. He worked as a part-time caretaker for the parks and recreation department and also as a bagger at King Soopers grocery.
 
  • #457
Excellent work, everyone.. My interpretation as to why serial and mass/spree killers were decreased from 3 victims to two was to lower the threshold allowing the FBI BAU2 and other federal agencies to assist local and state LEAs with additional investigative resources.

In 2009 I was following two serial killers and one spree killer investigation in 3 different states. The spree killer was active in Gaffney, SC, over the July 4th holiday. He was a recently paroled inmate on a drug>meth> binge. Within 36 hours of his <3D colored>sketch being released to the public, he was killed by LE in a vacant house after an aware citizen's 911 call. The two serial killers were apprehended within 24 hours of their sketch and vehicle descriptions were released to msm; local/national. All three cases were successful due to aware citizens combined with excellent police work.

Gaffney <spree> killer slain, ending 5-murder spree
http://www.thestate.com/news/local/article14344643.html

Thank you so much for joining us Foxfire!

I tried to pm you back, but your mailbox is full...I basically asked if you don't mind, if you would post here the thoughts that you sent me as far as the likelihood of the shooter striking again, etc.
 
  • #458
What about someone who needs to keep up socializing on the weekends?

Here is info about when John Jacoby was found:

http://www.westword.com/news/update...-shootings-of-john-jacoby-cori-romero-6726797

On May 18, 2015, at approximately 10:15 a.m., 47-year-old John Jacoby was riding his bicycle (with a small trailer attached) north of the town of Windsor, Colorado, on WCR 15 when he was shot two times by an unknown assailant about two miles north of Main Street. He died at the scene shortly thereafter.
Jacoby was well known by locals and was often seen riding his bicycle around town. He worked as a part-time caretaker for the parks and recreation department and also as a bagger at King Soopers grocery.

Thank you for posting this, I meant to but am all over the place here with 10 windows open, lol. Forager, could you please add JJ/10:15 am info to your graph if you get a chance? TIA!!!!!!!!!!!
 
  • #459
It is too bad Cori Romero didn't see more since the shooter pulled up right next to her.

Same link above has info about times of some of other shootings.
 
  • #460
I have the feeling our creeper doesn't need a map of the area. Flat, open land, lots of exits, easy to get away. He/she/they knew what they were doing when they picked that area.
Going back to the idea of a college student.... Is April significant in any way? This person wants to scare people, wants people to take notice of them, wants people to view them as important/smart/capable as they imagine they are. In their own twisted mind they have a point to prove. Hopefully they are caught before anyone else gets hurt.
( if I remember correctly We have a forensic psychologist as a member here. They would probably be an asset here. Unfortunately I can't remember the screen name. Migraine fog at its finest)

I agree. I thought the same thing when I read about Malvo and the maps found (that I doubt this nutjob needs/uses a map).

While I've posted a lot of info on the Beltway Snipers for reference / brainstorming, there is no indication / confirmation of possible similarities there may be to this case, if any. It's just like darn child abduction cases---similar cases does not necessarily mean similar details, as many things vary such as disposal, type of victim, etc etc etc....
 
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