CO - Possible Serial Shooter Has Colorado Drivers on Edge #1

[FindHG]

Two Shooting Linked by Evidence, as per LE today.

1. 11:15 pm, Wed, April 22, woman shot in the neck, two shots taken, survived
   
   Description of shooting by the survivor
   
   
   
   Woman shot in the neck while driving home from work
   Don Lemon, CNN Tonight, 8:40 pm Denver Time,
   speaks with her at length and very well. (paraphrased/not a complete)
   
   ​
   driving home from work, later than usual,
   
   "merging onto I 25 when a car pulled up next to me..."
   
   "I thought they actually hit my car with their car..."
   
   "But my window shattered, and then at that point,
   
   I thought they threw something in my car..."
   
   "I called 911..."​
   
   [*] 10:00 am, Mon, May 18, man, cyclist, found at this time, shot twice, fatally
   
   
   No witnesses so far.
   
   

 

[Forager]

Thanks again Forager and FHG for your work on this case! Now that the 2 cases have been positively linked, we are already all in place---we have every article, and thanks to you guys thorough map and timeline. Yes, possibly unrelated incidents could be listed, but they're there just in case, just like documenting attempted abduction cases nearby in a mp case.

As we head into these new waters with LE's confirmation of a positive link between the random shootings of CR and JJ, I'm thinking my approach at this time would like to be to look solely at those 2 incidents, map and timeline wise.

Perhaps a comparative table / chart...brainstorming.

Testing 1234 html table (in progress)
Eta:lol, that didn't work

Ok, so we need a chart or whatever comparing the two....

Lead the charge Margarita!

I've done a little work on the map to make it easier to focus on what interests you at a given time. All of the incidents in which someone has been killed or wounded are now in their own layer. There are other layers for the shattered window incidents, shooting ranges, and local LE offices. The various layers show up as subsections of the list of features on the left of the screen. You can make all of the features in a particular layer show or hide themselves by clicking on the little check marks next to the layer names.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z_XRj_yu3Dto.kzPJOvnNDQio

 

[margarita25]

Paraphrasing, trying to wrap my head around this (I used to do this with Shakespeare, paraphrase in street lingo to try to get through the language....

So per FHG's beginnings of a new table / list above:

Shooting #1, CR, occurred on a Wednesday (April 22), at 11:15pm. Victim was a driving a car. Exact location:

Shooting #2, occurred on a Monday (May 18th) (how many days later) at 10am. Victim was driving a bicycle. Exact location:

Two Shooting Linked by Evidence, as per LE today.

1. 11:15 pm, Wed, April 22, woman shot in the neck, survived
   
   Description of shooting by the survivor
   
   
   
   Woman shot in the neck while driving home from work
   Don Lemon, CNN Tonight, 8:40 pm Denver Time,
   speaks with her at length and very well. (paraphrased/not a complete)
   
   ​
   driving home from work, later than usual,
   
   "merging onto I 25 when a car pulled up next to me..."
   
   "I thought they actually hit my car with their car..."
   
   "But my window shattered, and then at that point,
   
   I thought they threw something in my car..."
   
   "I called 911..."​
   
   [*] 10:00 am, Mon, May 18, man, cyclist, found at this time, shot twice, fatally
   
   
   No witnesses so far.
   
   

Jumping off your post, so adding to my post point #1 that, according to the victim, the shots were fired from a vehicle.

Right?

Shooting #2 :unknown

 

[margarita25]

(Yeah, so I think this dirtbag is in a car, not a sniper on foot? Which imo means this guy is not necessarily a trained sniper ? Brainstorming etc)

 

[margarita25]

Paraphrasing, trying to wrap my head around this (I used to do this with Shakespeare, paraphrase in street lingo to try to get through the language....

So per FHG's beginnings of a new table / list above:

Shooting #1, CR, occurred on a Wednesday (April 22), at 11:15pm. Victim was a driving a car. Exact location: Shots likly fired from vehicle, per victim
2 shots
Eta: exit ramp
Eta: East Harmony Road onto the on-ramp to southbound I-25 thanks fhg

Shooting #2, occurred on a Monday (May 18th) (how many days later) at 10am. Victim was driving a bicycle.
/15 near the intersection of County Road 15 and County Road 72

Fired from vehicle? Unknown
2 shots
Rural road / shoulder? (Need to go back...)

Updated above

 

[Forager]

Jumping off your post, so adding to my post point #1 that, according to the victim, the shots were fired from a vehicle.

Right?

Shooting #2 :unknown

Yes, Cori Romero says that a car pulled up next to her, while she was moving on the exit ramp, just before she was shot. She didn't see a gun and wasn't aware until later that gunfire was involved. She thought they had hit her car.

 

[FindHG]

(Yeah, so I think this dirtbag is in a car, not a sniper on foot? Which imo means this guy is not necessarily a trained sniper ? Brainstorming etc)

Two at least wimps gamers, young, experimenting, escalating, with issues, obviously. One driving one shooting, practice it somewhere in fields, and I argue they may have a spotter who helps them time it, because they're not great shots.

Anyone know people fond of driving and shooting out of the passenger windows for thrills? Somebody may have seen these antics when they were harmless and not thought a thing of it? Gangs?

Both places have back roads that they may have zipped into quickly to get lost off the radar. Thing that concerns me, is that if they are young, unless they come in, or people who know them tip LE asap, it doesn't seem to me like they've been smart enough to get away with it, longterm, so what are their options, as LE closes in?

 

[margarita25]

Yes, Cori Romero says that a car pulled up next to her, while she was moving on the exit ramp, just before she was shot. She didn't see a gun and wasn't aware until later that gunfire was involved. She thought they had hit her car.

I noticed "they" in the quotes from FHG---Does they mean plural, or just grammatical incorrectness for the singular? Or she doesn't know either way?

 

[Forager]

Paraphrasing, trying to wrap my head around this (I used to do this with Shakespeare, paraphrase in street lingo to try to get through the language....

So per FHG's beginnings of a new table / list above:

Shooting #1, CR, occurred on a Wednesday (April 22), at 11:15pm. Victim was a driving a car. Exact location:

Shooting #2, occurred on a Monday (May 18th) (how many days later) at 10am. Victim was driving a bicycle. Exact location:

Exact locations (or at least the best we have) are almost always cited in the captions in the map:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z_XRj_yu3Dto.kzPJOvnNDQio

like so:

Cori Romero shot in neck at 11:15 PM on Wed. 4/22/15, "as the 20-year-old Milliken woman turned from East Harmony Road onto the on-ramp to southbound I-25," Larimer County Sheriff Justin Smith said. http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...driving-on-i-25-manages-to-pull-over-call-911

John Jacoby, 48, who had been riding his bike, "had been shot twice, and was discovered by a passing driver shortly after 10 a.m. Monday 5/18/15 near the intersection of County Road 15 and County Road 72. It's unknown how long he had been lying in the road." http://www.9news.com/story/news/crime/2015/05/19/windsor-bicyclist-shooting/27582625/ |||| |||| "This week we did recover evidence that links [the Romero shooting and the Jacoby shooting] together," Windsor Police Chief John Michaels. ...sources confirmed to 7NEWS that there is a ballistics link between the two shootings. http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...-shooting-of-woman-driving-on-i-25-police-say |||| Officials say he was pedaling north on the two-lane road (Weld County Road 15), which is flanked by farmland, when he was gunned down. " ttp://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_28...=hot-topic-bar |||| [The map marker is approximate, and based only on the descriptions above. |||| More from News Denver source: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...s-concerned-after-cyclist-was-shot-and-killed |||| Photo source: Clayton Sandell, ABC News: http://www.hdvideotv.com/hunt-for-a-suspected-killer-in-colorado.html

 

[margarita25]

Lead the charge Margarita!

I've done a little work on the map to make it easier to focus on what interests you at a given time. All of the incidents in which someone has been killed or wounded are now in their own layer. There are other layers for the shattered window incidents, shooting ranges, and local LE offices. The various layers show up as subsections of the list of features on the left of the screen. You can make all of the features in a particular layer show or hide themselves by clicking on the little check marks next to the layer names.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z_XRj_yu3Dto.kzPJOvnNDQio

Wow---thank you so much!

 

[margarita25]

Thanks again FHG and Forager, my very very rough post in progress, have to run, so marking spot

Shooting #1
CR, occurred on a Wednesday (April 22)
11:15 PM--night
Victim was a driving a car.
Shots likely fired from vehicle, per victim.
2 shots
Exit ramp
East Harmony Road onto the on-ramp to southbound I-25

Shooting #2/ JJ:
Occurred on a Monday (May 18th)
(how many days later)
at 10 AM-morning
Victim was driving a bicycle.*
Near the intersection of County Road 15 and County Road 72
Fired from vehicle? Unknown
2 shots
Rural road / shoulder? (Need to go back...)

 

[FindHG]

I noticed "they" in the quotes from FHG---Does they mean plural, or just grammatical incorrectness for the singular? Or she doesn't know either way?

I don't know? I think it's a solid "they", at least two. She seems to have been shot from the her left side, thus from the driver side, very quickly and shot by whomever was on the passenger side.

 

[Forager]

Originally Posted by Forager
Yes, Cori Romero says that a car pulled up next to her, while she was moving on the exit ramp, just before she was shot. She didn't see a gun and wasn't aware until later that gunfire was involved. She thought they had hit her car.

I noticed "they" in the quotes from FHG---Does they mean plural, or just grammatical incorrectness for the singular? Or she doesn't know either way?

Cori said "their car" in the interview I heard. Not sure how much weight to put on that, though. I don't think I'd have been a good enough observer to catch that under those circumstances.

 

[margarita25]

I don't know? I think it's a solid "they", at least two. She seem to have been shot from the her left side, thus driver, very quickly and shot by whomever was on the passenger side.

Scumbags

Eta: what about a singular driver, rolls down the passenger window...

Who knows, then you have the "road rage" incidents...multiple passengers...

 

[margarita25]

So, the shooter(s) is obviously in an active phase.

When and where will he/she/they strike again? Because you know it WILL HAPPEN.

I'm doubting he/she/they will strike in Windsor again with all the police presence?

Whats between Windsor and Brighton? Not that Brighton has been positively linked, but it might be imo.

Eta: or whats an equal distance in the opposite direction from Brighton?


All brainstorming, speculation...no need to map that! Only the facts re: shooting 1 and 2.


Will the shooter(s) lay low for a while? Or not?

 

[FindHG]

Scumbags

Eta: what about a singular driver, rolls down the passenger window...

Who knows, then you have the "road rage" incidents...multiple passengers...

Grateful to you magz, real nice to be here with you.

Sounds like what gangs do too, uh as far as scumbags go.

 

[margarita25]

Grateful to you magz, real nice to be here with you.

Sounds like what gangs do too, uh as far as scumbags go.

Interesting, jumping off your post, there IS heavy gang activity in Denver---but I wouldnt guess this to be a gang thing---unless an initiation or something...

I think this is some nutjob. I guess he'll strike in a couple months, maybe around FT Collins, Berthoud, Loveland, Longmont, Louisville. Jmo eta: maybe sooner but maybe longer! Jmo

 

[FindHG]

Interesting, jumping off your post, there IS heavy gang activity in Denver---but I wouldnt guess this to be a gang thing---unless an initiation or something...

I think this is some nutjob. I guess he'll strike in a couple months, maybe around FT Collins, Berthoud, Loveland, Longmont, Louisville. Jmo

hmm, sounds like good thinking to me, and I agree. Jumping off your post. The cyclist may have been somebody wanting a sure kill, no window in between, as it doesn't seem as random as the young lady, shot at twice as well, by somebody perhaps lurking at the highway ramp?

 

[margarita25]

hmm, sounds like good thinking to me, and I agree.

There's no telling. But I guarantee you there is quite a manhunt and investigation going on behind the scenes. Jmo

 

[Forager]

(Yeah, so I think this dirtbag is in a car, not a sniper on foot? Which imo means this guy is not necessarily a trained sniper ? Brainstorming etc)

I don't see anything in the shootings that necessarily speaks of professionalism or military training. The Pain in the Neck Shooter(s) needn't even have been especially good shot(s). If you are driving at the same speed as the target, a few yards from it, going in the same direction, it isn't a very challenging shot, even with a pistol.

We saw the short .45(?) caliber center file cartridge casing used in the Jacoby shooting. So he was killed by a shot from a semi-automatic pistol. He was hit twice. The last one was probably a very easy shot, at least in my grim imagination.

There are some indications that some of the window shatterings were from the roadside. That would be a harder shot, but for all we know, he/she/they shot a box of pellets for every hit scored. ('Experts' in news articles agreed that the window shatterings were probably caused by for pellets or BB's shot from long guns. Maybe .22's. In any case, not the pistol used on Jacoby.)