Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #27

[Harmony 2]

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CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #28

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[Amonet]

They will say he panicked. And dumped the bodies in such a way because he did not plan the murder.

I don't know exactly what it means, but it was a very interesting choice. I don't think it was necessarily a bad choice for a murderer who wants to get away with murder.

I think a lot of murderers would choose more of a panic dump site, like the side of a road, somewhere, anywhere, to distance themselves from the bodies.

I think I'm getting more of a sense of premeditation in the choice of dump site rather than of panic. Could that be argued to a jury? I wouldn't like to try.

I have said before, though, his choice meant that when LE looked at the gps on his phone it would only show him going to 'work', not making an obvious body dump detour, and not a panic throwing out of the bodies into a ditch by the side of the road on the way to work. I think that's quite a heavy decision to make for someone who's panicked. Granted I am the world's worst decision-maker, but I feel like he really thought about where he was going to take the bodies and why he was taking them there (to cover his tracks from LE and a 'perfect' hiding place where no one would ever look).

Is that the thinking of someone who's not just panicked, but someone who 3 hours earlier was a family man of the 'perfect' happy family and another child on the way?

And if you look at how much distaste a lot of people have for the oil tanks, surely a person who's in the throes of the most terrible sudden grief ever, is going to want to show a lot more protection and care of those little bodies? I don't see protection and care there, I see someone who thinks he's committed the perfect murder, and if it wasn't for NUA this would have been a much 'better' attempt at a perfect murder.

 

[mtnlites]

In watching CW's interview again, I get the feeling CW HATED SW. Absolutely hated her, and that the MLM business was a huge annoyance to him. When he says that it's normal for SW to ignore phone calls from him but not "her people", I feel like that bothered him quite a bit.

I also notice, when he speaks of doing things for the girls like telling them what not to eat, or seeing them watch Bubble Guppies, he says "I miss that". It hasn't even been 24 hours at this point, but he talks as if a substantial amount of time has passed since the girls disappeared. IMO, that suggests he knew he was going to kill them for days, even weeks before he actually did, and they were already dead in his eyes.

Also, he never shut down the interview. He waited for the next question until the reporter was done. No urgency to wrap it up, to check his phone or to hop in his car and start searching. The interview almost seemed like a "test run" to see if he could get through it without cracking.

His anecdotes about his kids were all very generic, too, and not very personal. To me, thry sounded like things someone would say if they're not really a dad, but have seen a lot of movies about dads. "I miss telling them to eat their dinner or else they won't get dessert" is very vague and general, for instance, whereas, "I miss Cece sneaking cookies when she thinks we're not looking" would be more specific. Name dropping popular cartoons and merchandise felt awkward to me, too. On the one hand it was like he wanted to show "hey, I'm a good and involved father because I can name a cartoon they watch" yet, on the other hand, it doesn't REALLY say anything personal about them since just about every toddler girl I know is into Sofia and Bubble Guppies.

 

[JudgeJudi]

I'm confused about the bags. It was reported that he was seen loading bags into the truck but A bag was found at the dump site. Which is correct?

 

[FlossyMay]

In watching CW's interview again, I get the feeling CW HATED SW. Absolutely hated her, and that the MLM business was a huge annoyance to him. When he says that it's normal for SW to ignore phone calls from him but not "her people", I feel like that bothered him quite a bit.

I also notice, when he speaks of doing things for the girls like telling them what not to eat, or seeing them watch Bubble Guppies, he says "I miss that". It hasn't even been 24 hours at this point, but he talks as if a substantial amount of time has passed since the girls disappeared. IMO, that suggests he knew he was going to kill them for days, even weeks before he actually did, and they were already dead in his eyes.

Also, he never shut down the interview. He waited for the next question until the reporter was done. No urgency to wrap it up, to check his phone or to hop in his car and start searching. The interview almost seemed like a "test run" to see if he could get through it without cracking.

He says "I called her 3 times. I texted her about 3 times."

Isn't 3 a common number for liars to use?

 

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