Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #27

[mtnlites]

i have to ask this question: why was she gone 5 weeks from her husband? would you want to be away from your husband for 5 weeks?

I've been married for 15 years. We are often apart on long stretches and it doesn't have anything to do with trouble in the marriage. For instance, we own a vacation house on a southern island. Sometimes my husband, an anthropologist, teaches college courses in the summer. The kids and I often go down and spend 6-8 weeks alone, with him popping in on the weekends sometimes. There are other times in which he is sent on field assignments around the globe. I rarely go with him because the kids can't miss school. He is from another country and there are times in which he has flown back and spent several weeks with his family. I generally do not go.

We are very much in love and we have a strong marriage that has lasted through many tragedies most couples don't have to face. Being apart is hard sometimes but it has never been a big deal.

Every couple has their own kind of unique relationship. With Bella starting school in August, I can totally see why SW would take them to NC. It was a good chance to spend some extended time with family they probably don't see often. Once your kids start school and get into a bunch of clubs and sports, it becomes much harder to take a lot of time off.

 

[Nikynoo]

A Polaroid does not leave negatives, to minimize the leaks?

THANK YOU. That's exactly how I feel. Hey, we demand the touch DNA on the baby's necks, after you retrieve them from the oil vats. But where does the state get off, trying to demand this poor suspects handprints? That's violating his rights! GMAFB...

If the correct procedures are not followed, then thats even worse isnt it. The state needs to request evidence in a proper manner.......

 

[Jennifer17]

If the correct procedures are not followed, then thats even worse isnt it. The state needs to request evidence in a proper manner.......

What is the correct manner?

 

[Nikynoo]

Agreed. He seems to have been a guy with few close friends, and I imagine that the friends he did have, he interacted with on a superficial level.

We’ve heard from people who knew Shanann, but where the hell are the people who knew him?

I know the circumstances are different, with CW being a suspect and SW being a victim, but you’d expect someone to come forward and offer something, even if it isn’t a defense. Just crickets.

They are out there - you just need to spend an hour or so looking.

 

[SaguaroSpirit]

What bothers me most is that you only need one juror to vote differently for there to be a mistrial.

Did you read about the case (?) last year where the jurors didn't understand the meaning of the word 'unanimous'. It was unforgettable.

*facepalm*

 

[Jennifer17]

They are out there - you just need to spend an hour or so looking.

An hour looking on the Internet?

 

[mtnlites]

An hour looking on the Internet?

I have spent time looking on all the outlets and even the handful of people (there aren't many) who claim to have known CW aren't saying much. It doesn't sound like anyone really knew him.

 

[Nunehi]

I posted this before but i saw the (alleged) last photo taken of Shanann in AZ a few hours before she headed home...She wasnt wearing her watch or Fitbit

I'm not sure which model phone she had, but if it was an Apple iPhone, the activity app couldn't be removed from what I understand. Could this be used to show her last activity? Maybe point or narrow time of death if she became inactive after that?

 

[Nunehi]

Is it true that CW's defence team requested to suppress autopsy results?

 

[sun16]

Is it true that CW's defence team requested to suppress autopsy results?

The prosecution is asking for that.

 

[Nikynoo]

Is it true that CW's defence team requested to suppress autopsy results?

No. The prosecution has.https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...IC RECORD PURSUANT TO CRS 24-72-204(6)(A).pdf

 

[natsound]

Do you think it's likely that he'll plead?

I think he will, unless for some reason his attorneys think they can get him off.

 

[natsound]

What’s really crazy is being able to watch those interviews, with the knowledge that everything he said was a complete lie. He’s admitted to as much.

What bothers me is that the reporters asking the questions, just allowed him to give brief non-specific answers. They didn’t follow up in some key moments, moments that would have hurt him even more when and if this case goes to trial.

I know it’s easy to second guess them in heinsight, but they really could have put his feet to the fire.

Can you give some examples?

 

[RachB65]

I heard the barely let me mumbling on the raw video. Not on the edited clip. Hope that helps. I'm way behind on the threads so probably it was already addressed.

What comes to mind immediately is "she barely let me get a word in edgewise"; Perhaps he started to talk to her but she blew him off and was pissed he wouldnt let her talk to the girls earlier. Maybe she started talking bout his gf and headed up to see the girls. Infuriating him

 

[JudgeJudi]

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[JudgeJudi]

Huge target on his back. They don't like wife and child murderers in prison. Its going to be tough for him!

I can't see him ever being with the general prison population.

 

[natsound]

In watching CW's interview again, I get the feeling CW HATED SW. Absolutely hated her, and that the MLM business was a huge annoyance to him. When he says that it's normal for SW to ignore phone calls from him but not "her people", I feel like that bothered him quite a bit.

I also notice, when he speaks of doing things for the girls like telling them what not to eat, or seeing them watch Bubble Guppies, he says "I miss that". It hasn't even been 24 hours at this point, but he talks as if a substantial amount of time has passed since the girls disappeared. IMO, that suggests he knew he was going to kill them for days, even weeks before he actually did, and they were already dead in his eyes.

Also, he never shut down the interview. He waited for the next question until the reporter was done. No urgency to wrap it up, to check his phone or to hop in his car and start searching. The interview almost seemed like a "test run" to see if he could get through it without cracking.

 

[natsound]

What comes to mind immediately is "she barely let me get a word in edgewise"; Perhaps he started to talk to her but she blew him off and was pissed he wouldnt let her talk to the girls earlier. Maybe she started talking **** bout his gf and headed up to see the girls. Infuriating him

I just listened to that portion of the interview. I think what he actually said is, "she barely l-- I mean, she had barely, barely gotten into bed."

He was VERY nervous and stuttering a little bit, and there's a noticeable strain in his voice. It's at 4:41 in this video:

 

[mickey2942]

I have spent time looking on all the outlets and even the handful of people (there aren't many) who claim to have known CW aren't saying much. It doesn't sound like anyone really knew him.

Who would want to say anything? Admittedly, there are some types who would want "15 Minutes of Fame", but for the most part, people might be creeped out by association with him, and not want any inquiries, or get involved in this drama, or worse, be called in for testimony.

 

[mtnlites]

Who would want to say anything? Admittedly, there are some types who would want "15 Minutes of Fame", but for the most part, people might be creeped out by association with him, and not want any inquiries, or get involved in this drama, or worse, be called in for testimony.

I was just responding to the assertation that personal accounts are out there on the internet. From what I have seen, few exist.