Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #30

[sun16]

It’s hard to get lots of people to all keep their mouths closed about something. I’m sort of surprised there aren’t more people (known to the Watts’s) who are talking.

 

[katydid23]

Emotionally unavailable?

 

[stereopticons]

Does this mean she killed her children? No. Does it raise red flags for me & any other poster here with a psychological background? I believe so.

SBM.

Not me. Research and opinions on parenting are varied and change A LOT. I don’t see any red flags from SW. But we are only seeing snippets. We don’t have a real picture of the lives of those girls. There’s so much judgment of parents online and there’s no one “right” way to raise a child, no matter how many people tell you their way is right.

 

[MyBelle]

I agree. IMO we can disagree & still mind our manners.

Yes and it is really easy to scroll and roll........

 

[Jennifer17]

SBM.

Not me. Research and opinions on parenting are varied and change A LOT. I don’t see any red flags from SW. But we are only seeing snippets. We don’t have a real picture of the lives of those girls. There’s so much judgment of parents online and there’s no one “right” way to raise a child, no matter how many people tell you their way is right.

Totally agree.

 

[nwmouse]

If a man/woman is happily married...would they still have an affair?

Its possible someone may stray and look for greener pastures in an unhappy marriage. It happens and I don't want to judge anyone for choosing to stray since I don't know the underlying dynamics, and its none of my beeswax. But most people who stray/cheat either get a divorce or stay married. They don't murder their pregnant wife and toddlers. Being a cheating rat on your pregnant wife is lousy, but not even CLOSE to being a cheating rat AND a murderer. JUTST MOO.

 

[BabyButterfly]

In her Lupus video though didn't she say she was told she couldn't have kids?

I haven't watched the video, or any of the videos. I watched them when posted, but not now that she's been murdered.

 

[katydid23]

Emotionally unavailable?

I would like people to look in this child's eyes, then tell me she was being raised by a distant, cruel, cold hearted Mother.

We have all seen pictures here, of children who have dead smiles, and very sad eyes, because of being cruelly mistreated, starved etc.

Look at CeCe's eyes and her smile, and then tell me her Mother was emotionally abusive and unavailable to her.

 

[borndem]

'Absolutely No Evidence' Shan'ann Watts Killed Her Daughters: Police Source


A source close to the investigation tells PEOPLE that Chris’ alleged defense is not plausible.


“There is absolutely no evidence that she killed her children,” the source tells PEOPLE in this week’s issue. “None at all. And there is physical evidence to tie him to their murders. Strangulation is a very personal way to kill someone, with a lot of physical contact. Just based on the preliminary evidence, everything is consistent with him killing them all.”



Not looking good for him. The police sources are saying that because there was so much ‘physical contact’ during the strangulation, they were left with a lot of physical evidence, which ties HIM to the murders.


I think that means that there are ‘handprint’ bruises visible on those little necks. And those hands are big male hands, not smaller female hands. Which is why his defense team is trying so hard to scramble out of the way, to avoid giving his prints over.


They are even calling up his ‘constitutional rights’ to avoid handing over his prints. Talk about a stretch. CW is pathetic, IMO.

Was he not printed when he was arrested and put in jail? Pardon this, but that's how it works in NC -- when someone is booked, they get printed. Period.
Is it that the defense has put in some request to keep his prints private, or has he not been printed at all? This is odd, IMO.

 

[Layla123]

With multi-level marketing, the goal is to have it shared by your friends to other new people that you don't know or you are not friends with already downline. ( this is not my opinion, it is the opinion of my family member who is in multi-level marketing.)

Many folks here have seen that they cannot share things on Facebook, because of their privacy settings. Therefore people in multi-level marketing haven't completely open to be shared.

Moo

I’ve been offended and critical about some of the negative accusations that have been posted about SW, but to tell you the truth, I don’t pay attention to who wrote what. I have no idea what you wrote, I just comment about the comments.

 

[Allabouttrial]

I would like people to look in this child's eyes, then tell me she was being raised by a distant, cruel, cold hearted Mother.

We have all seen pictures here, of children who have dead smiles, and very sad eyes, because of being cruelly mistreated, starved etc.

Look at CeCe's eyes and her smile, and then tell me her Mother was emotionally abusive and unavailable to her.

While I take on board what you're saying. I've also seen plenty of images of abused children on the abusive parents SM and there are a lot of pictures like the ones with SW and her kids.

 

[MKZoo]

In her Lupus video though didn't she say she was told she couldn't have kids?

I believe she said that. I think this is actually a pretty tough thing for us to determine. We were not with her and her doctor. Surely she was told that her Lupus could make it difficult or even impossible. That sounds like a pretty standard thing for a patient to be told. I’m going to guess that she may have had her own perspective on that conversation. It was probably devastating for woman who wanted children.

My own mother was told she would never be able to carry a pregnancy to term. It was quite definitive. They were told to adopt. My parents adopted. Two successful pregnancies later they were the parents of three. IMO, just because SW was able to get pregnant and carry to term doesn’t mean she wasn’t told that it would be impossible for her.

 

[NuttMegg]

The conversation CW had with his dad coming home from the airport had to be very different than the conversation they had just before CW’s confession, don’t you think? I would always love my child no matter what, but man, I’d have a hard time believing what the truth really is.

well i don't know. Did cw think so little of his own father that he gave his father the same baloney as in his media appearances? Now THAT would be a weak relationship. Imo

 

[nwmouse]

The conversation CW had with his dad coming home from the airport had to be very different than the conversation they had just before CW’s confession, don’t you think? I would always love my child no matter what, but man, I’d have a hard time believing what the truth really is.

It must be soul destroying for CW's dad. You love your son so much but you also KNOW the difference between right and wrong. I don't have sons but if I had a daughter and IF she were in CW's situation I'd urge her to be truthful. You CANNOT lie to law enforcement because 99/100 times they will catch you. The truth does set you free although that freedom may not be to your liking. MOO!

 

[nwmouse]

I would like people to look in this child's eyes, then tell me she was being raised by a distant, cruel, cold hearted Mother.

We have all seen pictures here, of children who have dead smiles, and very sad eyes, because of being cruelly mistreated, starved etc.

Look at CeCe's eyes and her smile, and then tell me her Mother was emotionally abusive and unavailable to her.

There you have it and its heartbreaking. Mom and girls adored one another. What a hideous loss made even worse by those judging her SM without even knowing all the facts.

 

[Allabouttrial]

I believe she said that. I think this is actually a pretty tough thing for us to determine. We were not with her and her doctor. Surely she was told that her Lupus could make it difficult or even impossible. That sounds like a pretty standard thing for a patient to be told. I’m going to guess that she may have had her own perspective on that conversation. It was probably devastating for woman who wanted children.

My own mother was told she would never be able to carry a pregnancy to term. It was quite definitive. They were told to adopt. My parents adopted. Two successful pregnancies later they were the parents of three. IMO, just because SW was able to get pregnant and carry to term doesn’t mean she wasn’t told that it would be impossible for her.

Very true it's entirely possible that SW could have interpreted it to mean she couldn't have kids.

 

[katydid23]

While I take on board what you're saying. I've also seen plenty of images of abused children on the abusive parents SM and there are a lot of pictures like the ones with SW and her kids.

Alright, so are we now saying that SW was an abusive parent and her kids were abused by her?

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Yes, I’m disappointed to see some of our most insightful posters have left the thread.

Me too - it's very disappointing.

 

[Kensie]

It is going to get uglier for SW's character at the time of trial (if this goes to trial). Travis Alexander was made out to be a horrible perverted person because he was tired of the manipulating lying Jodi Arias.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I’ve been offended and critical about some of the negative accusations that have been posted about SW, but to tell you the truth, I don’t pay attention to who wrote what. I have no idea what you wrote, I just comment about the comments.

:gaah: a talk to text typo that I missed that said *haven't*, and I mean * have it*!

Thank you for telling me. I did not proof my posting well.

I have gone back and corrected it as it makes a world of difference. No wonder you were confused!

Thank you again