Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #30

[molly1255]

Yes, correct, she had posts right up to the few days before she passed, and now I believe the most recent post that can be seen by the public is from back in June.

Her friends were very upset by the hundreds of strangers commenting (who does that?!)

But nothing can be removed from this point forward now that it’s been memorialized.

I just feel SO bad for her, because she’s not in a position to go back and make her posts private. She’s not in a position to defend herself. With all the criticism leveled at her for everyday mundane and innocent parenting “faux pas”, despite being “committed” by millions of parents worldwide, I bet she’d like to. It feels very unfair and if I felt that way (which I don’t!) I personally would at least wait until we know more before trashing what could be a completely innocent victim of a homicide.. it just really breaks my heart.

A friend of mine died a couple of years ago and people were posting some of the most bizarre things on his facebook page. Several were people he barely knew.

On SW's facebook, I wonder if LE was involved in removing the posts after June. That was strange, IMO.

 

[The Saint]

I saw these two videos last night.

The first video shows the back of the Watts house and was shot recently.
It's a moot point now, because CW isn't claiming someone took his family via the back anymore. However, it does show homes built ver close behind them their house. Perhaps they heard something or had security cameras. The back fence is very low. You can see how close the neigboring homes are by seeing the fence bewteen them and the neighbor's sprinkler going.

I have revised the floorplan to include the back stair off the deck and moved the BBQ grill. @PommyMommy supplied the flipped floorplans of their model and I revised the titles. I'm still not sure if I got the girls' bedrooms right. Let me know if I need to revise anything else.

(See attached floorplans below)
1. Watts 1st floor REV 3
2. Watts 2nd Floor Rev1

The second video is Ashleigh Banfield's interview with CW's roommate in NC.
They both worked at the same car dealership and attended the NASCAR school at the same time.

Ashleigh Banfield - CW’s roommate at the NASCAR school https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7x_PMx1g3M

 

[dixiegirl1035]

If CW gets a non public defender attorney, who is going to pay for that? I get the impression CW wouldn’t have anywhere near the money needed for his defense. Would dad be willing to give up monies in his accounts, retirement, second+ mortgage, etc.? And for what expectation in the end?

He could sell his lifetime rights the story for legal.

But if he does so, he has absolutely no control over what they say once they purchase the lifetime rights. I was shocked once I learned what folks can do once they purchase your lifetime rights when I researched it)

I think that is what happened with Casey Anthony, and also Thomas Markle. They sold their soul for a price. Now they have zero control over what is being said and their family being brought into it also.

My own opinion.

 

[MassGuy]

After all the lies CW has told, SW is the liar? Interesting way to look at things in my opinion.

Exactly. We have irrefutable PROOF that CW is a liar. If you assume he is lying about something, you are likely correct.

Those lies were the most significant ones a person can tell, as they concerned life and death.

SW has some Facebook videos.

We have FACTS on one hand, and opinions based on subjective interpretation on the other.

Let’s just hope the jury sticks to logic and reason, and stays away from reckless speculation.

 

[gitana1]

I can’t answer your questions, but do I think it was short sighted of whoever it was to remove some, but not all, or just leave it all up there because I saw what was there before the cleanup, and there were many more loving posts about CW and the girls, including one she wrote the last night in Arizona, where she said she couldn’t wait to get home to C.W. and the girls. I’ve seen many come to false conclusions based on what remains and the fact that there were no recent posts. I have to wonder if the DA instructed them to remove what was removed.

The DA is actually not allowed to ask that evidence be removed. That's tampering with evidence and FB posts could be evidence.

Family can change privacy settings though and investigators can advise that.

 

[Allabouttrial]

I saw these two videos last night.

The first video shows the back of the Watts house and was shot recently.
It's a moot point now, because CW isn't claiming someone took his family via the back anymore. However, it does show homes built ver close behind them their house. Perhaps they heard something or had security cameras. The back fence is very low. You can see how close the neigboring homes are by seeing the fence bewteen them and the neighbor's sprinkler going.

I have revised the floorplan to include the back stair off the deck and moved the BBQ grill. @PommyMommy supplied the flipped floorplans of their model and I revised the titles. I'm still not sure if I got the girls' bedrooms right. Let me know if I need to revise anything else.

(See attached floorplans below)
1. Watts 1st floor REV 3
2. Watts 2nd Floor Rev1

The second video is Ashleigh Banfield's interview with CW's roommate in NC.
They both worked at the same car dealership and attended the NASCAR school at the same time.

Ashleigh Banfield - CW’s roommate at the NASCAR school https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7x_PMx1g3M

Oh wow thanks! The garden is a lot smaller than I imagined. Also, the neighbouring houses are a lot closer in proximity to each other than I thought.

 

[Shekkiec]

Imo I’m trying to corralate what is false and true. I’m confused. She speaks about her depression and being in a really dark place during that video as well. In her Lupus video she speaks of how her first marriage took her to a dark place a really bad place emotionally. There is a correlation of depression with illness, with the marriage being over and her husband involved with someone else I see that a consideration she may react negatively

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10154113962771935

She now has two kids and being pregnant and she had been accused of strangling her daughters I’m looking at all possibilities as a juror would need to. Imo

 

[Tigerlily75]

So far, there is no evidence to share that SW didn't lie about her illnesses. JMO

There is no evidence she was a liar. Opinions are not fact.

There IS factual evidence CW is a liar. We know for a fact CW lied multiple times about the whereabouts of his family on Monday, 13th of August.

We also know he was having an affair with a coworker which also entails lying.

 

[Shekkiec]

I’m really curious about the HOA. If they were unable to pay that debt is it a possibility they had talked about selling the house? It seems odd not to pay something so small.

 

[Kensie]

A lot of people suffer from depression, myself included, and I have never once thought of killing someone. I have had a cheating spouse that had his new love interest calling my house on a daily basis, and I did not think of killing someone.

CW committed the murders for freedom.

ETA, I have a family member that has Lyme disease and it has been rehabilitating.

ETA again, a lot of people don't pay small debts. I just don't get it.

 

[gitana1]

Seriously? You consider SW 'emotionally unavailable' to her children? How many pix and videos do we see where she is hugging them, holding them, laughing with them, telling them how great they are, what a good job they are doing, etc?

I have seen emotionally disconnected parents, and SW was not one of them, imo.

Shanann Watts

 

[MKZoo]

Imo I’m trying to corralate what is false and true. I’m confused. She speaks about her depression and being in a really dark place during that video as well. In her Lupus video she speaks of how her first marriage took her to a dark place a really bad place emotionally. There is a correlation of depression with illness, with the marriage being over and her husband involved with someone else I see that a consideration she may react negatively

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10154113962771935

She now has two kids and being pregnant and she had been accused of strangling her daughters I’m looking at all possibilities as a juror would need to. Imo

Imo, there’s also reason to think that having gone through the end of a bad marriage and come out the other side, she knew she could survive CW leaving and still have a happy, successful life. She’d already done it. She knew what was within her. Also, as dark as the end of her first marriage may have been, she didn’t resort to violence then. I have a hard time seeing why she would now.

 

[MyBelle]

She got murdered by her husband. So what difference would it make if she had a dozen maladies? Imo

Her husband has been charged with the murders but I've not seen the cause of death released.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

She stated that on this video at this mark “I was told I could not have kids but now I have two beautiful girls little monsters I call them “ so was she lying about that ?

What does it matter? CW is a liar so SW must be proven to be one?
SW may have been told she couldn't conceive due to her illnesses, why is that hard to believe?

My friend has a pituitary gland tumour, she was told she might not be able to conceive, and if she did, it could be high risk. She took fertility drugs prescribed by her doctor in the hope she would fall pregnant and eventually she did, and her pregnancies proceeded as normal. She is now a proud mother of 3 grown daughters. But she still tells her story about what doctors initially told her. It's a positive story, why is considered lying?

 

[NuttMegg]

Her husband has been charged with the murders but I've not seen the cause of death released.

Affidavit . He admits to killing her and the baby. Yet, her illnesses or lack thereof are the important focus? She's dead,he desecrated the bodies of his entire family, but she mentioned a lyme disease message board? Imo

 

[gitana1]

Emotionally unavailable?

Shanann Watts video at Cece's birthday.

 

[Tricia]

Ok Thread is shut down for the night.

See you in the morning.

Tricia

 

[Tricia]

Locked now.

 

[Harmony 2]

Good morning~ The thread is open for posting.

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[JudgeJudi]

Good morning and g'day y'all.