Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #32

[Nikynoo]

You replied to what I said saying there was a possibility that both of them could have acted negatively, and that SW may have been upset about a shift of power. I replied to your post stating that IMO the way it went down that's completely implausible.

With respect, we don't know 'how it went down', we don't know what triggers (if any) on either side, there were. All of us are speculating/expressing an opinion. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, as I am mine.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Do you have a theory if he killed all of them, or just a theory that she killed the children?

At this point, I think both scenarios are plausible.
jmo

 

[Serena Angelique]

For some yes, it may be futile, but I want to explore the chance he could be telling the truth.

We have gone over this before here. She is not a suspect. The likelihood of that happening is slim to nil and doesn’t hold much weight. This isn’t a forum for victim blaming or wild tabloid like speculations, though there are plenty of other groups like that online. Expert analysis and professional opinions carry more weight than amateur projections that people glean from various SM posts

 

[human]

I hear ya. I think that in these murder cases we've seen that before. Implausible lies.

Sometimes it may be because they're used to lying and manipulating others and getting away with it. So they think they will be believed here. Like casey anthony. Her story was so wild they asked her if she what any mental health issues or hospitalization or if she was on something. Remember that?

Is that kind of what you're thinking of?

Those types often have a history of lying to charm people or get away with things and it usually starts with parents who refuse to believe anything bad about their little angels. So the kids grow up feeling confident about their abilities to lie, even when their lies seem transparent.

I could see that being a possibility here.

But that differs from compulsive lying which is more lying for attention, I believe or out of compulsion. Rather than to manipulate. Their lies tend to cast them in a positive light.

Compulsive Lying

Exactly. Thanks.

 

[MassGuy]

I haven’t decided who did it yet. I need more information before I can decide.
If that’s what happened I would say she planned to but CW killed her
jmo .

But you have no evidence upon which to base this theory of her doing this.

“She could have”
“She might have”

Is not evidence.

There is a mountain of circumstancial evidence supporting his guilt, from his words to his actions (some of which he has admitted to).

Any theory of SW doing this, is completely reliant on speculation and the words of an admitted liar.

You literally have to throw away facts in order to develop a scenario that is, for all intents and purposes, an alternate reality. It is fiction.

 

[MerryB]

I don't agree with this but I do appreciate someone finally shared their theory, so thank you.

Do you think SW did attempt suicide? Or that she possibly planned to before CW killed her?

What if she planned to have him come home from work to find her & the girls? But instead of leaving for work, he came back upstairs.
Just an idea. I won’t even put MOO bc I am just jumping off this post with a “what if...?”

 

[compass]

I did not say she was diagnosed with this.

Oh my, I realize that! and I did not say that you said that...I was just replying as best I could to your post to another asking if it was a diagnosis.

I did not say she was diagnosed with this.[/quote

 

[Allabouttrial]

We have gone over this before here. She is not a suspect. The likelihood of that happening is slim to nil and doesn’t hold much weight. This isn’t a forum for victim blaming or wild tabloid like speculations, though there are plenty of other groups like that online. Expert analysis and professional opinions carry more weight than amateur projections that people glean from various SM posts

We are allowed to discuss the possibility of SW being the killer of the girls.

 

[Nikynoo]

We have gone over this before here. She is not a suspect. The likelihood of that happening is slim to nil and doesn’t hold much weight. This isn’t a forum for victim blaming or wild tabloid like speculations, though there are plenty of other groups like that online. Expert analysis and professional opinions carry more weight than amateur projections that people glean from various SM posts

As per @Tricia , we are allowed to explore both possibilities. With respect, all opinions are valid, professional or not.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

We have gone over this before here. She is not a suspect. The likelihood of that happening is slim to nil and doesn’t hold much weight. This isn’t a forum for victim blaming or wild tabloid like speculations, though there are plenty of other groups like that online. Expert analysis and professional opinions carry more weight than amateur projections that people glean from various SM posts

According to TOS on this site we are allowed to discuss the possibility that CW is telling the truth. Not all amateur opinions are coming from SM. This is what we do on Websleuths - we discuss cases and explore all possibilities.
jmo

 

[MsBetsy]

Maybe he'd had enough of thrivin' though, so not a big loss for him.

I think in the grand scheme of things, the whole Thrive thing would not be significant to him. Jmo

 

[Jennifer17]

What if she planned to have him come home from work to find her & the girls? But instead of leaving for work, he came back upstairs.
Just an idea. I won’t even put MOO bc I am just jumping off this post with a “what if...?”

She would then have had all day to kill them, but she did it when he was out of the room for a moment?

 

[bonjoviblonde]

What if she planned to have him come home from work to find her & the girls? But instead of leaving for work, he came back upstairs.
Just an idea. I won’t even put MOO bc I am just jumping off this post with a “what if...?”

If that was her plan, then why would she attempt it right then? Why start killing the children before he even leaves? She would have had all day or at least a few hours before people started calling or texting her as would be her normal day.

 

[Jennifer17]

As per @Tricia , we are allowed to explore both possibilities. With respect, all opinions are valid, professional or not.

Yes, but calling her a 'suspect' on the word of a liar and dumper of bodies, is untrue.
She has not been named a suspect by LE. We can discuss what may have occurred but she is still not a 'suspect'.

 

[mtnlites]

As per @Tricia , we are allowed to explore both possibilities. With respect, all opinions are valid, professional or not.

I would say that all opinions are allowed. It is up to the individual members to decide for themselves whether they agree.

 

[MerryB]

But you have no evidence upon which to base this theory of her doing this.

“She could have”
“She might have”

Is not evidence.

There is a mountain of circumstancial evidence supporting his guilt, from his words to his actions (some of which he has admitted to).

Any theory of SW doing this, is completely reliant on speculation and the words of an admitted liar.

You literally have to throw away facts in order to develop a scenario that is, for all intents and purposes, an alternate reality. It is fiction.

May I respectfully suggest that none of us have much evidence at this point?
We know that C.W. has admitted to murdering his wife and disposing of the bodies. There is evidence that this confession is true.
As to what happened prior to that, we really don’t know much. We are still waiting on the autopsy and forensic results.
I think this is why some of us are reserving judgement. There are 2 different versions of what happened, and hopefully as we gather more facts, we will know undoubtedly which version is true.
JMO

 

[idfinch]

With respect, we don't know 'how it went down', we don't know what triggers (if any) on either side, there were. All of us are speculating/expressing an opinion. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, as I am mine.

With respect, there are certain undeniable facts in the evidence itself, the bodies, the statements by LE, the charges, and in the affidavit as far as "how it went down." The rest of the scenario I put out there was from CW's version of things.

And yes, we are all entitled to an opinion. You responded to mine with yours and I did the same. All IMO.

 

[human]

What if she planned to have him come home from work to find her & the girls? But instead of leaving for work, he came back upstairs.
Just an idea. I won’t even put MOO bc I am just jumping off this post with a “what if...?”

I think that LE knows that she was strangled.

 

[Shekkiec]

I wonder if the videos were SW ( male) and C.W. (female) with the same words and actions and the ma

We have gone over this before here. She is not a suspect. The likelihood of that happening is slim to nil and doesn’t hold much weight. This isn’t a forum for victim blaming or wild tabloid like speculations, though there are plenty of other groups like that online. Expert analysis and professional opinions carry more weight than amateur projections that people glean from various SM posts

She has been accused

 

[MsBetsy]

I have stayed away from posting such a thing, but here it goes....

Could SW have been so devastated about CW leaving her for another woman that she became unhinged early that morning? Perhaps she had a knee jerk reaction and decided to kill herself and to protect her daughters from the aftermath she.......(I can’t bring myself to say the rest, but I think you can figure it out).

I think it’s an unlikely scenario, but I think there’s a very tiny chance that it could have happened.
jmo

I suppose it's possible, but I would think there would have been some sort of signs leading up to that point, as it would suggest she had been gradually building up to that point. Or at least some episodes in the past of her suddenly becoming volatile. It is very uncommon for people who are usually level- headed or stable to suddenly lose all control. Jmo