Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #33

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  • #381
Usually, we are able to see ALL of our VI's posts anytime we want. Usually we can click on somene's name, go to their profile page, and then click on posts. All of the posts will come up and you can click on each one, sorted by date.

But this is the first time that I have not been able to go back and check on a VI's past posts. For some reason, they seem to be locked down? I cannot see them anymore.
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/search/1316466/

Does this link work?
 
  • #382
Yes, you're right, but it may help to show premeditation.
It would certainly help the case if they could prove premeditation.

If they can prove unequivocally, that he killed the kids, then under Colorado law he is eligible for the death penalty, regardless of premeditation.
 
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It takes a cold blooded killer to do all of those things. That’s why his scenario is so insane. Only a person who kills his family, could dispose of them in that way.
Of course. A frightened man does not do this.
A man with a bossy wife does not do this
A man whose wife is a hypochondriac (according to some) does not do this.
Who does do this? An evil cardboard cut out of a man.
 
  • #385
Except for the same sex partner whom he was supposed to buy skin care items for, I am not sure that he was a big spender on dates. He purportedly took one the the chicken place that I can never remember what it is called.
Fast food joint on a romantic date? Count me out.

LOl - low-rent rendezvous. But we also have OW co-worker to consider and if she is someone he set his sights on as his new target, he may have decided to step it up to woo her and he may have sprung for someplace like Applebees - lol. A dinner and beverages for two plus tip would be around $40. If he did this 7 nights a week for 5 weeks, that would be $1,400. That's before alcoholic beverages, and any gifts or flowers he might have bought her.

In addition, I'm not familiar with how these meet up apps work (and I never intend to become familiar with them, either!), but is there a fee to join? That would be hard to explain to a wife who was paying the bills and looking at debit and credit card statements, IMO.
 
  • #386
It would certainly help the case if they could prove premeditation.

If they can prove unequivocally, that killed the kids, then under Colorado law he is eligible for the death penalty, regardless of premeditation.
The more I learn about the case the more I think it was premeditated.
 
  • #387
Hmmm....that's weird. It works for me. I can type her name into the search box and under the box her name appears in blue letters. When I click on that a box appears and when I click on the number beside the word "messages", it takes me to a list of all her posts.
 
  • #388
Allabouttrial said:
Would you possibly have the VI post? because I'm pretty sure they didn't say that they knew about the AP from the start.



@MassGuy The post you are referring to above by @Trinket78 agreed was posted Sept 10th but @Trinket78 amended that post on Sept 12th to state the following:


Trinket78, Sep 12, 2018
Hello, that is one post I wish I could re do. I shouldn’t of used the word beginning. It’s vague and leading. I do not know who it is or how long it was going on. I knew when everyone else did. That’s the best I can do with that one. I’m sorry

That doesn't make sense. The statement that he or she knew from the beginning is not vague. It appears to mean he or she was aware of the affair from it's inception.

The later modification of that statement to "I knew when everyone else did." is what's vague. Who is everyone else? If he or she meant the public, then that's a complete contradiction from the first post.

So which is correct?
 
  • #389
Allabouttrial said:
Would you possibly have the VI post? because I'm pretty sure they didn't say that they knew about the AP from the start.

Trinket78 post dated September 10.

“Yes I am aware of the one affair and was from the beginning. She also knew he wanted a separation before her trip. She continued to post about how wonderful he was. He deleted his Facebook after that.”

@MassGuy The post you are referring to above by @Trinket78 agreed was posted Sept 10th but @Trinket78 amended that post on Sept 12th to state the following:


Trinket78, Sep 12, 2018
Hello, that is one post I wish I could re do. I shouldn’t of used the word beginning. It’s vague and leading. I do not know who it is or how long it was going on. I knew when everyone else did. That’s the best I can do with that one. I’m sorry

Hmmmm....I never saw that 'redo' post until just now.

It is kind of confusing me. It was really clearly stated in the first post, that she was aware of the affair 'from the beginning.' So I don't understand how that use of the word, 'beginning' , is vague.

There was some criticism after the first post, because some people said it indicated she was much closer to CW than SW, if she knew about the AP from the start, and never said anything. So I may take the amended version with a few grains of salt until I find out more info.
 
  • #390
I don't understand it all either. Also, how did he have time to unscrew all the bolts on both tanks and drain both tanks????

The implication is he would've done so beforehand.
 
  • #391
Hmmmm....I never saw that 'redo' post until just now.

It is kind of confusing me. It was really clearly stated in the first post, that she was aware of the affair 'from the beginning.' So I don't understand how that use of the word, 'beginning' , is vague.

There was some criticism after the first post, because some people said it indicated she was much closer to CW than SW, if she knew about the AP from the start, and never said anything. So I may take the amended version with a few grains of salt until I find out more info.

Indeed.
 
  • #391
Hmmmm....I never saw that 'redo' post until just now.

It is kind of confusing me. It was really clearly stated in the first post, that she was aware of the affair 'from the beginning.' So I don't understand how that use of the word, 'beginning' , is vague.

There was some criticism after the first post, because some people said it indicated she was much closer to CW than SW, if she knew about the AP from the start, and never said anything. So I may take the amended version with a few grains of salt until I find out more info.
Yes. You cannot “know about an affair from the beginning” and then “find out when everyone else did.” They are mutually exclusive.
 
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That is what I think. Sociopath. 33 years of fooling people. People thinking he was a quiet introvert and the whole time he was a monster,
I agree - sociopath. Possibly even a psychopath. IMO, SW had no idea of who and what she was really dealing with until it was too late to save herself and her babies. JMO.
 
  • #394
I had planned to visit and post for a while tonight, but the oil tank holes has broken my heart and made me very sad. Those poor, sweet little girls.

There were two people the girls loved and trusted above all others; their Mommy and Daddy. Daddys are supposed to protect their children, even into death! I'm sorry, gotta go, good night!
Oh, Poet:(:(:( I understand :(
 
  • #395
When I click on it it says 'web sleuths error'
IDK. Maybe she is overlooking your posts on purpose, iykwim.
;););)

Not sure if that would keep you from seeing her profile though. :confused:

Maybe I'm just bad at links, lol.
 
  • #396
Hmmmm....I never saw that 'redo' post until just now.

It is kind of confusing me. It was really clearly stated in the first post, that she was aware of the affair 'from the beginning.' So I don't understand how that use of the word, 'beginning' , is vague.

There was some criticism after the first post, because some people said it indicated she was much closer to CW than SW, if she knew about the AP from the start, and never said anything. So I may take the amended version with a few grains of salt until I find out more info.
BBM. I think that we all worked that out very early on. Nothing but scorn for the murdered woman and excuses for the man charged.
 
  • #397
IDK. Maybe she is overlooking your posts on purpose, iykwim.
;););)

Not sure if that would keep you from seeing her profile though. :confused:

Maybe I'm just bad at links, lol.
Or maybe has you on ignore. I really think that that is it. You do not have access to her posts, because you are on ignore. I think that I am too and I bet many, many others are too.
 
  • #398
It depends what it is purchased with. If it is purchased with marital earnings, yes. But if it is purchased with what is called "separate property" in the legal world, then no. This would be any money the spouse earned prior to marriage, or any gifts, bequests, devises earned during or prior to marriage, and any income, dividends, rents, or profits from that separate property. That separate property remains the separate property of the spouse to whom it belongs.

Technically yes. And great explanation of the law by the way.

But any increase in value due to marital efforts becomes marital property. So paying down the mortgage would usually cause an increase in equity and that increase in equity is subject to division after separate property contributions are reimbursed.
 
  • #399
Or maybe has you on ignore. I really think that that is it. You do not have access to her posts, because you are on ignore. I think that I am too and I bet many, many others are too.
I was trying to be covert, but yes, this is what I'm thinking, lol.
 
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