Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #33

[tmar]

Thank you so much @Layla123! This was one of the saddest things to read. How can a father do these things to his babies?? Those innocent babies didn’t deserve this. And to think CW thinks the world doesn’t understand him?!

I am way behind.
Unbelievable. Horrific.
8 inch diameter, 3/4 year old children.
It can not get any worse.
Can this be an error, as too difficult to believe?

 

[gitana1]

Both of those definitions mean the same thing. They contain the same acts. The only distinction is if the tampering is done to conceal a crime.
They have the right charge which is no better than the other charge.

It's not an actual charge. It's just a legal definition.

 

[The Saint]

I know that this ship has sailed (2 threads back) but the thread had closed before I could edit my post about CW telling LE about the broken keypad.

I think what I said might not be accurate. I said that CW told LE that the garage keypad was broken. I assumed that CW meant the inner garage door that led to inside the house. It's the door that SW walks thru on the Xmas Eve video where she goes from the house into the garage to retrieve Cw's phone.

But others thought CW meant that the broken keypad was on the garage door on the left side of the house.

Can someone clarify this for me?
If you know, what door was CW talking about? Or did both garage doors (side door and inner door that led to inside the house) have keypads?

 

[MsBetsy]

Indeed.

Maybe from the beginning means when the story came out following his arrest. That would have been when everyone else knew. Jmo

 

[katydid23]

Oh I'm certain that's what happened.

I think you and I are talking about two different situations. JMO

 

[gitana1]

Shaman often refers to taking the kids to school. We know that Bella was actually supposed to start kindergarten a week or so from that fateful Sunday/Monday... and with Cece one year younger... what kind of school. With shanann as a SAHM were the kids in daycare anyway?

Preschool. Some parents want their kids to get a jump on socialization and education. Or maybe they just need a break during the day.

I note, however, that on multiple occasions Shanann picked Bella up early from school to go on a Mommy Daughtrer date, according to her social media.

Shanann Watts

 

[Jennifer17]

maybe they got tired and disgusted, perhaps overwhelmed and tired of watching their dear murdered friend and her babies being diagnosed, accused, judged, and blamed

Maybe they pictured their beloved friend who was buried in shallow dirt strangled with her beloved son Nico, and her baby girls who she devoted her life to dumped in oil... being dug up and accused by the man she loved of being responsible and the horror she would have felt at that. Then came to a random website and read people validating just that.

Based on loving and honest SM posts.

And decided to change their account, leave, and live to shine like Shanann instead.

imo

I don't think so. The detractors to SW are all out there over facebook. Led by one, I believe.

 

[Johnny1181]

so the good news ies that the defense lost their motion to keep the handprints and all that out of the states reach. Too bad....

Thank you for your message. I'm sorry I misunderstood. But I stand by imo that's why our SW VI's left. Thanks for correcting me!

 

[Johnny1181]

I don't think so. The detractors to SW are all out there over facebook. Led by one, I believe.

That was my mistake. I thought the reference was to SW VI supporters.

 

[gitana1]

March 31, 2017
"My daughter is 2days a week in the Preschool class and has only been 6 times so far and what she has learned so far is incredible! Truly amazing school
And wonderful teachers."
Shanann Watts

There may be more recent information there if you're up for doing some digging.

MOO

You just know she's getting grief for being so lazy and such a terrible mom to put her kids in preschool a couple days a week.

 

[molly1255]

Oh I'm certain that's what happened.

It's not what happened.

 

[Tigerlily75]

If someone’s profile is limited, to see their posts you can click on their name, then in the little pop up box just click on the number next to “messages”.

Example (using myself) attached

 

[molly1255]

I don't think so. The detractors to SW are all out there over facebook. Led by one, I believe.

Do you know if the leader is a relative of CW's?

 

[katydid23]

we better stop discussing what happened to the VIs....


Mods vs POsts=

 

[MsBetsy]

Oh I'm certain that's what happened.

Hasn't it been over a week since we got any replies? I figured they were long gone. Oh well.....
.
Oops just saw the post before this.

 

[The Saint]

At an angle, smashed, shoved, forced, bone breaking. AB kept using the word, “gruesome.”

Thanks for the detailed recap about draining the tanks, SW's family picking up her things, etc.

What the tank stuff meant to me is either:
1. CW planned and calculated this crime for a long time
or
2. He had an accomplice or accessory-after-the-fact. He had too much to do to get rid of the bodies and too little time to do it.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

I know that this ship has sailed (2 threads back) but the thread had closed before I could edit my post about CW telling LE about the broken keypad.

I think what I said might not be accurate. I said that CW told LE that the garage keypad was broken. I assumed that CW meant the inner garage door that led to inside the house. It's the door that SW walks thru on the Xmas Eve video where she goes from the house into the garage to retrieve Cw's phone.

But others thought CW meant that the broken keypad was on the garage door on the left side of the house.

Can someone clarify this for me?
If you know, what door was CW talking about? Or did both garage doors (side door and inner door that led to inside the house) have keypads?

I really want to know too about the garage keypad, and if CW disabled it, instead of it being broken. He wanted that house locked up tight until he got everything out! JMO

 

[gitana1]

Posters on here do not think he is a good liar.

Me, I am astounded that a man so depraved was able to carry on a persona where people thought he was loving and a great guy ( as stated by Lindstrom re the great guy and many about how loving he was)

How did he manage that con job for years? He did not turn depraved over night.

How did Scott Peterson manage?
Neil Entwistle?
Chris Coleman?
Christian Longo?
Ross Harris?
Etc. Etc.

It's an intriguing question. It's really why we are all here for the most part. But sometimes it can't be answered.

 

[Layla123]

It's very sad.

How do they know all this?

An unnamed source told AB the tanks were nearly full, and the guest, Professor Wesley Williams is an expert on the subject of oil, he teaches classes about it at a college in Louisiana. He was very familiar with all aspects of these tanks.

 

[The Saint]

I hate to say it, but using a hammer to smash the girls' heads in, to make them fit through the hole, wouldn't take must effort on CW's part.