Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #33

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I agree. I don't understand the insistence regarding people's emotions. There may be reactions and presentation which are more typical, but this whole "no, people only feel this emotion in these situations" seems rather ridiculous to me.

Wait. Are you saying that some people don't feel grief when their family is murdered?

If so, yes. I would agree with you. Psychopaths don't.
 
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I think it more likely he was afraid to get caught. He knew darn well they suspected him, and his story had been blown out of the water. That would be a good reason to be scared and stressed. Jmo

I most definitely think he was scared to get caught. I think he was a mixed bag of emotions for a mixed bag of reasons.
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Wait. Are you saying that some people don't feel grief when their family is murdered?

If so, yes. I would agree with you. Psychopaths don't.
No, ma'am. Not what I was saying.
 
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It’s notoriously hard to get fired here in Australia, we have a lot of rights, but certainly burying your family would fall under general “serious misconduct” without needing to find a specific policy relating to misuse of company property or something like that.

Imagining now how his employer & co-workers felt when they heard, they must have been so shaken up
Yep. I don't think that they would have to send him three warning letters for that.
 
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I'm guessing yes. She seemed to be a very organized lady. Her friend knew where she was going that day so I'm sure her husband knew too.

I actually don't think he did know. For whatever reason, I think it was a surprise to him. Had he known about the doc appointment, then I think he would have told NUA, "Well, she's at the doctor's" instead of him saying she was at a "playdate." I think that, had he known, he would've used it in the porch interviews somehow. I don't know how, I just think he would've brought it up. If he'd known about the appt, I also think he might have waited a day or two to kill her. IF it was pre-meditated, it would make more sense to do it on an evening in which she wasn't expected to be someplace at a certain time the next morning.
 
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@MassGuy Did your little niece fit?
 
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It’s notoriously hard to get fired here in Australia, we have a lot of rights, but certainly burying your family would fall under general “serious misconduct” without needing to find a specific policy relating to misuse of company property or something like that.

Imagining now how his employer & co-workers felt when they heard, they must have been so shaken up

You would be surprised! The United States is so litigious companies are afraid to fire people even when accused of criminal conduct. It is easier to fire someone because they violated a clause in an employment agreement than for any other reason. It is then a breach of contract. In certain cases that litigated what Directors and Officers insurance had to cover, the court found the company had to pay until there was a final adjudication of criminal conduct. I realize it is bizarre and it's one of the many reasons lawyers get a bad rap.
 
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I have missed something. What is Massguy's niece going to do??? Thanks!
 
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I actually don't think he did know. For whatever reason, I think it was a surprise to him. Had he known about the doc appointment, then I think he would have told NUA, "Well, she's at the doctor's" instead of him saying she was at a "playdate." I think that, had he known, he would've used it in the porch interviews somehow. I don't know how, I just think he would've brought it up. If he'd known about the appt, I also think he might have waited a day or two to kill her. IF it was pre-meditated, it would make more sense to do it on an evening in which she wasn't expected to be someplace at a certain time the next morning.
The thing is, her going to the doctor’s or not, would be easily verifiable. If she is at some “mysterious friend’s house,” then she cannot be found, and she could theoretically be anywhere.
 
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I actually don't think he did know. For whatever reason, I think it was a surprise to him. Had he known about the doc appointment, then I think he would have told NUA, "Well, she's at the doctor's" instead of him saying she was at a "playdate." I think that, had he known, he would've used it in the porch interviews somehow. I don't know how, I just think he would've brought it up. If he'd known about the appt, I also think he might have waited a day or two to kill her. IF it was pre-meditated, it would make more sense to do it on an evening in which she wasn't expected to be someplace at a certain time the next morning.

I think she probably told him, but he was so distracted with his affair (and possibly murder fantasies) that it didn’t register or he forgot.

It might have been one of those “yes dear” moments.
 
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You would be surprised! The United States is so litigious companies are afraid to fire people even when accused of criminal conduct. It is easier to fire someone because they violated a clause in an employment agreement than for any other reason. It is then a breach of contract. In certain cases that litigated what Directors and Officers insurance had to cover, the court found the company had to pay until there was a final adjudication of criminal conduct. I realize it is bizarre and it's one of the many reasons lawyers get a bad rap.
We have that too, although it is the unions who organise the lawyers and get the same bad name in some quarters.
 
  • #857
What in the world is it about this guy? What is it about him that makes some people want to defend his disgusting actions or at least want to believe him? I know some say they are just looking at both sides until we have all of the evidence but it sure seems like some people want to believe his ridiculous story so bad no matter what. I've never seen such sympathy for a murderer before.
 
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I think they all have their own reasons like jealously, misogyny, schadenfreude, etc. I imagine that pretty much all of them are unhappy in their own lives to take part in victim bashing.

Probably similar reasons for those who don't actively participate yet smugly bask in victim blaming and bashing. IMO JMO MOO

I agree, and as for misogyny, to read some of what has been written about SW makes me wonder if they have any awareness at all of the women's movement of the 20th century where some progress was actually made.

Unbelievable, IMO.
 
  • #859
Bonjoviblonde, he looks normal, well groomed, nice looking . Does not look like a murderer. I think some people thinks he is okay because he looks nice.
 
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Just now, as I was reading posts, I received a text message. It was a copy of my grandson's first report card this year (first grade). I was filled with joy and pride.

And then it hit me, this was stolen from Cece's and Bella's grandparents and from SW! Even from CW, for he has stolen it, from himself! The enormity of the crime, the selfishness, and the senselessness, is almost beyond understanding. My prayers go out to all the family.
 
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