Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #36

[Thepoet]

I don't know if CW was a loner. I do know that much of his behavior, prior to and after the murders, was very suspicious. From closing his FB page to the interviews. I look forward to facts and evidence being revealed.

 

[bonjoviblonde]

I am not seeing they gave indications of past negative behavior on these . It was my interpretation they were speaking of post events and finding out his confession . Do both of them sell LeVel? If so that also would imo put them in a bad light choosing anything positive bc of all those relationships . I felt sad for them

There are not always going to be signs when people like this commit murders. There may not be past negative behavior for anyone to speak of. That's the point and a scary thought. You think you know someone. You may like them very much and then they show themselves to be a monster.

I don't know what the Thayer's do for a living but are you saying if they sell LeVel then the Thayers could possibly not be saying what they truly feel regarding this case?

 

[PommyMommy]

Reception No. 4122027 July 7, 2015. It’s behind the paywall but on this one you can see the unofficial copy. It doesn’t say much other than the loan is assigned to Chase. I don’t know when they filed Bankruptcy but I thought it was 2015.

BBM
Did you mean to include the link?
MOO

 

[Shekkiec]

There are not always going to be signs when people like this commit murders. There may not be past negative behavior for anyone to speak of. That's the point and a scary thought. You think you know someone. You may like them very much and then they show themselves to be a monster.

I don't know what the Thayer's do for a living but are you saying if they sell LeVel then the Thayers could possibly not be saying what they truly feel regarding this case?

I’m implying they were devaststated 1. if they do sell it then it would be hard to say anything to further hurt her family and mutual friends 2) they are on witness list so can’t really say more now 3) their information will be critical for both sides

 

[human]

Maybe I'm thinking of prior to the bankrupcy, his truck was listed as being $600 a month. I'm not sure when. I thought it was because hers was a company car and his wasn't. How were they able to get such nice cars through the company? I've known many people who drive company cars who own big companies but the cars are always pretty conservative. Jmo

Maybe the cars are what they get instead of money? Hard to imagine they get cars and cash. And trips. Sounds too good to be true.

 

[NuttMegg]

Perhaps he needed to give his dad instruction about something?

Probably vice versa.

 

[human]

The likelihood of going back to what we had is very small IMO. People would lose their minds. That aside, I doubt what could possibly happen informed her decision to stay or go or her feelings about it.

However, as to wanting to stay in a dead marriage due to health insurance coverage in general, and worrying about the costs, yes it certainly happens in our country. And she could've been concerned about it.

But she could qualify for Medicaid. Even if he had health insurance available. It covers single parents and their children regardless of whether another parent has coverage.

It's more often spouses who don't have kids that I see worry about staying married so they won't lose their benefits. I don't see it as much with parents.

And apparently the Colorado ACA is as comprehensive as in CA. Even for people who are middle class earners. Like CA they have their own, health care exchange and it offers pretty low rates to people depending on their situation.

Yes, she would be entitled to COBRA. And to transitioning to the ACA via her current plan. Which is likely what she would do instead.

Medicaid is for the poor. Depending on the policy , it might make sense for her to have the kids on his. Depends.

With the numerous health issues she has and being pregnant, I would think health would be at the top of the list of concerns, Medications. hospitalizations, doctor visits. Yow!

And if you do not have good coverage, the things you need may not be covered. Scary scary business.

 

[katydid23]

I think that is likely based on legal advice, not a lack of conviction on their part. MOO

What does that mean? A neighbor is going to seek legal advice before speaking to a news reporter and saying they thought their neighbor was a nice guy and didn't see this coming?

 

[Thepoet]

Maybe the cars are what they get instead of money? Hard to imagine they get cars and cash. And trips. Sounds too good to be true.

I believe they received a car bonus whenever they hit a goal. Shanann worked very hard and was good at her job.

 

[Deleted member 182072]

IMO the blame for their financial problems has been wrongly placed on SW. CW was the one wasting a lot of time and money on his affairs.

He could have instead tried to get overtime at work. Since he a good mechanic, he could have even bought cars cheaply, fixed them and sold them for a profit. There are lots of things he could have done to make more money for his family.

And I'll bet anything CW's Thrive sales were all SW's effort.

 

[MerryB]

What does that mean? A neighbor is going to seek legal advice before speaking to a news reporter and saying they thought their neighbor was a nice guy and didn't see this coming?

No.

 

[human]

Self-employed here with the same preexisting conditions as SW. I can corroborate that, with the ACA, getting health insurance for kids and myself has been no problem. Our conditions do not factor into cost. Whether she remained in CO or returned to NC, it shouldn't have been a problem. Both states have subsidies which make premium payments based on income.

Keep your eye on the legislation which is moving forward about reinstituting denial for preexisting conditions

 

[searchinGirl]

BBM
Did you mean to include the link?
MOO

I didn’t include it because it’s the kind of paywall that requires a login with ID and password.
Weld - Disclaimer

Maybe they know me through internet cookies because they require me to login, but I don’t believe you can login as a guest. At minimum you have to go through the process. Once there you can lookup by reception no.

 

[PommyMommy]

EWW

AB just said that CW as well as Shanann’s family, may have to speak on the phone during the telephone probate hearing, to deal with their assets.

Edited to clarify that it’s not CW’s family, but he himself.

And now AB's guest, Dr. Daniel Bober, Forensic Psychiatrist, is contrasting CW with all the family annihilators that we've been discussing here; Charles Stuart, Robert Fisher, Scott Peterson...
MOO

 

[sun16]

SW had no will?! All people (especially with kids) need ... last will and testament, living will, healthcare proxy, POA, etc. Ugh, what a mess. I have the feeling it’s going to get messier.

 

[Mrspratcher]

And now AB's guest, Dr. Daniel Bober, Forensic Psychiatrist, is contrasting CW with all the family annihilators that we've been discussing here; Charles Stuart, Robert Fisher, Scott Peterson...
MOO

AB’s producers are definitely reading our posts!

 

[katydid23]

But then what if most of the jurors you interviewed said they thought it looked favorable, or thought that because of the results he may be innocent, would they be allowed on the jury?

I think the biggest problem for the DA is if most of the jury pool believes he is obviously guilty. In those cases, they will be kicked out of contention. I believe that is what the state is concerned about.

 

[PommyMommy]

IMO the blame for their financial problems has been wrongly placed on SW. CW was the one wasting a lot of time and money on his affairs.

He could have instead tried to get overtime at work. Since he a good mechanic, he could have even bought cars cheaply, fixed them and sold them for a profit. There are lots of things he could have done to make more money for his family.

And I'll bet anything CW's Thrive sales were all SW's effort.

A second job would not have left him much time to use his gym membership or see his AP, though.
MOO

 

[NuttMegg]

I’m quite impressed there hasn’t been any negatively said. So many public people want to jump on tragedies like this and still nothing.

the 2 APs who went public said lots of bad stuff about him.

 

[katydid23]

Right, that would be tested when they first do the bloodwork very early on. Jmo

Maybe she didn't have any stds at that time.