Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #37

[Tippy Lynn]

I agree. What's interesting is that with all of the very smart sleuthers here, and with all of the evidence we have seen thus far, none of us have been able to figure out CW's exact master plan with any degree of certainty. That said, I do think he planned it out and I do think he thought he would get away with it.

He says SW killed his daughters, so he ultimately strangled her to death. He then puts SW's body in a shallow grave at a location that is and was connected to him. He puts the bodies of his little girls into oil tanks at that same location, because that's how loving parents deal with their deceased children. Even if it was part of his master plan to move SW's body to another location, didn't it occur to him there would evidence her body had been there, at that location?

He then has the unmitigated gall to give three media interviews, where he puts on a real show and tells one bizarre lie after another and decides it is a good idea to talk about his t-shirt, smile, chuckle, etc.

JMO, some have perceived that SW bossed him around and tried to control him. Maybe SW had found out the hard way that he needed to be specifically told what to do and there is something wrong with his thinking, and he had very poor judgment and made horrible decisions? That's what I'm thinking because he now sits in jail, with no bail, and he's been charged with multiple, hideous felonies. Truly the worst charges possible.

And this all happened why? Because he's resentful and feeling much hatred at SW because she's trying to run the show and as far as he is concerned "this has got to stop"? We can see exactly how well CW handles things when he takes charge. It truly boggles my mind.

All JMO.

It's been extremely difficult for me to wait for more information to come out and this post isn't helping. Great post!
jmo

 

[Deleted member 229974]

Yep. Instead of trying to save his children, he went into "I better hide the bodies" mode. Gee, I wonder why.
MOO

 

[MKZoo]

I put this in the search box and nothing came up. Not sure if it's been posted before:

Journey of Bella Marie

How joyful Shanann was and a reminder that Bella didn’t deserve to have her journey end. Thank you for posting that.

 

[Best of What's Around]

I agree. What's interesting is that with all of the very smart sleuthers here, and with all of the evidence we have seen thus far, none of us have been able to figure out CW's exact master plan with any degree of certainty. That said, I do think he planned it out and I do think he thought he would get away with it.

He says SW killed his daughters, so he ultimately strangled her to death. He then puts SW's body in a shallow grave at a location that is and was connected to him. He puts the bodies of his little girls into oil tanks at that same location, because that's how loving parents deal with their deceased children. Even if it was part of his master plan to move SW's body to another location, didn't it occur to him there would evidence her body had been there, at that location?

He then has the unmitigated gall to give three media interviews, where he puts on a real show and tells one bizarre lie after another and decides it is a good idea to talk about his t-shirt, smile, chuckle, etc.

JMO, some have perceived that SW bossed him around and tried to control him. Maybe SW had found out the hard way that he needed to be specifically told what to do and there is something wrong with his thinking, and he had very poor judgment and made horrible decisions? That's what I'm thinking because he now sits in jail, with no bail, and he's been charged with multiple, hideous felonies. Truly the worst charges possible.

And this all happened why? Because he's resentful and feeling much hatred at SW because she's trying to run the show and as far as he is concerned "this has got to stop"? We can see exactly how well CW handles things when he takes charge. It truly boggles my mind.

All JMO.

You had me at "unmitigated gall." but then your post got even better. BBM. Could not have stated it better! Plus, I'm sorry but it made me chuckle. Thank you.

 

[Jennifer17]

I believe the source was her family member.

I wonder if the family knew it was going on that long before he murdered them?
I bet it was his family member, not hers.

 

[Elizabeth Lavenza]

I wish she had stayed there and never gone back. Jmo

Oh, I wish so too.

 

[Moonracer]

Tha

I put this in the search box and nothing came up. Not sure if it's been posted before:

Journey of Bella Marie

That was heartbreaking to see. Five years later almost exactly, she and Bella are gone, along with the baby and CeCe. For no reason. It's so sad, so maddening.

 

[Best of What's Around]

Fantastic! I forgot all about that old joke. So spot on. Or as CW would say, on point.

Apologies to all for quoting my own post...but I just realized that as Jeff Foxworthy (sorta) said..."You know you're spending too much time on a crime sleuthing site...when you quote a family annihilator to make a point and you think it's funny." Just sayin'.

 

[wgram]

I'm wondering whether Shanann really wrote Chris' college paper about relationships. Maybe those were her thoughts about the danger of cheating with someone in the workplace and that a baby can sometimes help
a troubled marriage.

I wouldn't call CW a cut-out cardboard figure. SW was an extrovert
and he is an introvert. There are friends, a roommate, classmates, a teacher and former boss who have granted interviews about CW.

The powermower is not necessary for the little yard but maybe he bought it at a garage sale. It could have been a new or used gift from a friend otr family.

It could be that the Apple watches were a Christmas gift from family members. I hope that the data from the 2 watches help prosecutors figure out what really happened.

The Apple watch may have served like a Medic Alert for SW to call for emergency help if she felt ill.

BBM When has this come out? I mean its exactly what happened. WOW

You are right CW is an introvert MOO

 

[Elizabeth Lavenza]

You had me at "unmitigated gall." but then your post got even better. BBM. Could not have stated it better! Plus, I'm sorry but it made me chuckle. Thank you.

I heart "unmitigated gall." It is a lovely and apt phrase.

 

[MerryB]

What leads you to believe she knew that he wanted to separate?

What leads you to believe she returned home and "definitively" found out "he" was leaving?

What theory do you have as to why CW had an "emotional conversation" with his loving wife and mother of his daughters. Went downstairs for a few moments (per affadavit) and came back to see his daughter "blue" and his other daughter being "actively strangled" by their loving mama and didn't call 911?

What theory do you have as to why rather than calling for help while seeing his baby blue and the other actively being strangled CW strangled Shanann to death (per affadavit) and killed unborn Nico as a result?

What theory do you have as to after all of this... rather than call for help CW:

Loaded his murdered family into his truck
Gathered up dead CeCe or Bella, we don't know who he dumped first, climbed up those oil well stairs and dumped his baby in oil?

What theory do you have as to why after dumping his first baby, CW climbed down, gathered up either CeCe or Bella, found a separate oil tank, climbed up those stairs with his baby and dumped her in a tank of oil?

What theory do you have as to after dumping CeCe and Bella in separate oil tanks, CW then went to his truck and gathered up Shanann and unborn Nico in her belly, and shoveled dirt over them?

What theory do you have as to how CW could then preen with a smile in his shirt during those porch interviews? Knowing what he'd done.
MOO

Do you really want me to answer these questions? Or is this more rhetorical?
It seems you’ve asked to make a point rather than to elicit an answer, but if you genuinely want to hear alternate theories, I’m happy to oblige.

 

[Seattle1]

I respectfully disagree. It was suggested by several posters that the fact that charges had not changed implied the autopsy supported LE’s version of events. Here’s an example:

I don't understand your example because it's a broken quote -- don't even know who you're quoting... (??)

 

[Jennifer17]

BBM When has this come out? I mean its exactly what happened. WOW

You are right CW is an introvert MOO

I don't believe that she wrote it.
He plagiarised it from somewhere else. He is a fraud, through and through.

 

[wgram]

I am sure they are doing this but have we heard of any of the traffic cameras has shown where he was. He said he blew through stop lights and I wonder if there could have been traffic cameras?

 

[wgram]

I don't believe that she wrote it.
He plagiarised it from somewhere else. He is a fraud, through and through.

I agree.

 

[MassGuy]

I am sure they are doing this but have we heard of any of the traffic cameras has shown where he was. He said he blew through stop lights and I wonder if there could have been traffic cameras?

We haven’t. But I tend to believe that it is true. He wanted to beat police to the house, just to have some control over the search.

He of course, was lying when he claimed he rushed home out of concern for his family.

 

[rainynights]

I agree. What's interesting is that with all of the very smart sleuthers here, and with all of the evidence we have seen thus far, none of us have been able to figure out CW's exact master plan with any degree of certainty. That said, I do think he planned it out and I do think he thought he would get away with it.

He says SW killed his daughters, so he ultimately strangled her to death. He then puts SW's body in a shallow grave at a location that is and was connected to him. He puts the bodies of his little girls into oil tanks at that same location, because that's how loving parents deal with their deceased children. Even if it was part of his master plan to move SW's body to another location, didn't it occur to him there would evidence her body had been there, at that location?

He then has the unmitigated gall to give three media interviews, where he puts on a real show and tells one bizarre lie after another and decides it is a good idea to talk about his t-shirt, smile, chuckle, etc.

JMO, some have perceived that SW bossed him around and tried to control him. Maybe SW had found out the hard way that he needed to be specifically told what to do and there is something wrong with his thinking, and he had very poor judgment and made horrible decisions? That's what I'm thinking because he now sits in jail, with no bail, and he's been charged with multiple, hideous felonies. Truly the worst charges possible.

And this all happened why? Because he's resentful and feeling much hatred at SW because she's trying to run the show and as far as he is concerned "this has got to stop"? We can see exactly how well CW handles things when he takes charge. It truly boggles my mind.

All JMO.

^^^This.

And who knows - maybe before SW started telling him what to do, he would always just stand around. Almost like he was waiting for something to happen.

Jmo

 

[Mitch11]

I am sure they are doing this but have we heard of any of the traffic cameras has shown where he was. He said he blew through stop lights and I wonder if there could have been traffic cameras?

Cant answer your question but I hope they add his traffic violations to his long list of charges!

 

[Johnny1181]

Do you really want me to answer these questions? Or is this more rhetorical?
It seems you’ve asked to make a point rather than to elicit an answer, but if you genuinely want to hear alternate theories, I’m happy to oblige.

I genuinely want to hear your theories, answers and thoughts. I apologize if it came across otherwise.

 

[Seattle1]

If SW lied about her OB's approval it certainly shows a reckless disregard for the health and safety of her unborn child. I think the jury would find that relevant since her husband is accusing her of harming her other children. JMO

Are you suggesting that SW's OB will be subpoenaed, and made to testify whether or not SW lied about advice he gave or didn't give her about Thrive products? And this testimony will somehow be relevant to this trial?