Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #37

[Mrspratcher]

That will likely be the least of the prosecution's worries if the defense is successful with proving SW lied to the public about something so serious and dangerous. Pffffft will go four counts of 1st degree murder in the minds of the jurors.
JMO.

I respectfully disagree.

Pffftt is what's going to happen to the rest of CW's life after the jury is done with him.

 

[MyBelle]

Only a Casey Anthony jury would find this patch nonsense more important than what they have on CW, who also wore the patch. (And yes yes, I know he wasn't carrying a baby.) They better have a lot more than that.

The burden is on the prosecution, not the defense no matter what state the trial is in. JMO

 

[bonjoviblonde]

It wasn't mentioned on his affidavit but that also doesn't mean he didn't mention it to LE. JMO

At the very least we know he didn't hit his alarm panic button nor did he call 911 or go for help next door or even alert anyone that his wife was actively murdering their children.

 

[NuttMegg]

Even if her doctor advised against it, which is a big if, who cares?

If she was intentionally trying to harm her baby, which is beyond a stretch, then they might make a point.

She was focused on health, not harm.

You can’t blow this issue up big enough to have any relevance.

I've been to docs many times, and said, hey do you think this or that is a good product (usually in the realm of supplements or vitamins)? Normally I don't see them write down what they tell me.

 

[MassGuy]

At the very least we know he didn't hit his alarm panic button nor did he call 911 or go for help next door or even alert anyone that his wife was actively murdering their children.

At the very least, he’s one of the worst fathers of all time, and that’s just factoring in what he’s admitted to.

That’s not a great starting point for the defense.

 

[katydid23]

They charged CW prior to having the autopsy reports, internet searches, dna, and texts/emails.
jmo

No, not really. They had info from the ME already, even before the formal report. They had SW's cell, so they could have searched her phone for texts/messages between them. And I am pretty sure they did that first thing.

As for the internet searches, they can get those pretty fast too.

DNA they didn't have, but it will not play much of a role here anyway, imo.

 

[Layla123]

With all due respect, this is not evidence. MOO

I think if the Prosecution introduces these tapes as evidence and plays them for the court they will be evidence, don’t you?

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Longtime lurker, first time poster so forgive me for latching onto a comment that is sort of off topic but sort of not( I haven’t been able to find a thread that I could post this) and may be breaking the rules...

C.W. reminds me of SP not only for this house selling desire/comment but the fact that they both chose partners that they believed (and found this “fact” to be attractive) were infertile! LP believed she was due to a surgery when young IIRC and SW believed she was due to her lupus...
I believe both started distancing themselves and plotting their wives’ murders the minute the children were conceived. It just took C.W. 3 kids to get the “resentful guts” to do so...

I was about 18 when LP went missing and am now 33 and to this day that case still haunts and fascinates me, much like this one.

Also forgive my phone for putting a period between C.W.

Welcome MintLeighf

 

[PommyMommy]

Longtime lurker, first time poster so forgive me for latching onto a comment that is sort of off topic but sort of not( I haven’t been able to find a thread that I could post this) and may be breaking the rules...

C.W. reminds me of SP not only for this house selling desire/comment but the fact that they both chose partners that they believed (and found this “fact” to be attractive) were infertile! LP believed she was due to a surgery when young IIRC and SW believed she was due to her lupus...
I believe both started distancing themselves and plotting their wives’ murders the minute the children were conceived. It just took C.W. 3 kids to get the “resentful guts” to do so...

I was about 18 when LP went missing and am now 33 and to this day that case still haunts and fascinates me, much like this one.

Also forgive my phone for putting a period between C.W.

Welcome to Websleuths, Mintleighf!
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Many experts have compared CW to SP as well. Thanks for joining us!
MOO​

 

[MyBelle]

At the very least we know he didn't hit his alarm panic button nor did he call 911 or go for help next door or even alert anyone that his wife was actively murdering their children.

The burden is still on the prosecution to prove CW murdered the children. JMO

 

[PommyMommy]

At the very least we know he didn't hit his alarm panic button nor did he call 911 or go for help next door or even alert anyone that his wife was actively murdering their children.

Yep. Instead of trying to save his children, he went into "I better hide the bodies" mode. Gee, I wonder why.
MOO

 

[Tippy Lynn]

No, not really. They had info from the ME already, even before the formal report. They had SW's cell, so they could have searched her phone for texts/messages between them. And I am pretty sure they did that first thing.

As for the internet searches, they can get those pretty fast too.

DNA they didn't have, but it will not play much of a role here anyway, imo.

I disagree, I don’t believe they had any of the things you mention prior to CW’s charges.

 

[NuttMegg]

I disagree, I don’t believe they had any of the things you mention prior to CW’s charges.

Did they find SW's telephone the day, Monday, that NUA and the cop were there, or was it on Tuesday? Didn't they have CW's phone right away, or at least as soon as he went to the police dept after spending the night with those friends?

 

[Shekkiec]

SW found out she was pregnant on June 10, 2018 she goes to San Diego on June 23 with Chris gets back on June 26 and goes to North Carolina June 27 on she flys home on August 8 only to leave August 10-12 to go to Scottsdale Arizona . Imo this schedule is not typical for a happily married couple with news of a miracle pregnancy especially with the NC stylist friend commenting about separation. She may have been 15 weeks pregnant but they spent very little time together after she found out she was pregnant. Imo

 

[PommyMommy]

I disagree, I don’t believe they had any of the things you mention prior to CW’s charges.

They had her phone.

From the arrest affidavit:
Chris provided consent to check Shanann's phone and ultimately surrendered it to allow Det. Baumhover to examine it for information leading to Shanann's (and daughters) whereabouts. Det. Baumhover transported the phone to the Frederick Police Department where it has remained since Det. Baumhover collected it.
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/19th_Judicial_District/caseofinterest/2018CR2003/001/Warrantless Arrest Affidavit.pdf

 

[katydid23]

SW claimed on a video that both her OB and midwife had approved the Thrive patches. Nothing speculative about a video and the defense can certainly prove whether it is true or not. JMO

If her OB and her midwife had told her it was harmful, and she shouldn't wear the patches, do you think Shanann
would have then gone to her Social Media, with the large following she had, and LIE and say they said it was fine? That would be a pretty risky thing to do.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Did they find SW's telephone the day, Monday, that NUA and the cop were there, or was it on Tuesday?

I believe they had her phone, but there’s not much they can do with it if it was locked or without a search warrant.
jmo

 

[NuttMegg]

SW found out she was pregnant on June 10, 2018 she goes to San Diego on June 23 with Chris gets back on June 26 and goes to North Carolina June 27 on she flys home on August 8 only to leave August 10-12 to go to Scottsdale Arizona . Imo this schedule is not typical for a happily married couple with news of a miracle pregnancy especially with the NC stylist friend commenting about separation. She may have been 15 weeks pregnant but they spent very little time together after she found out she was pregnant. Imo

Why would THAT matter? She went to visit her family, and did some business trips. Where did she say it was a "miracle" pregnancy and if that was the case, why would that be ominous?

 

[kkdj]

Count on it.

I think so too. I have a guess what it might be. Do you?

 

[Tippy Lynn]

They had her phone.

From the arrest affidavit:
Chris provided consent to check Shanann's phone and ultimately surrendered it to allow Det. Baumhover to examine it for information leading to Shanann's (and daughters) whereabouts. Det. Baumhover transported the phone to the Frederick Police Department where it has remained since Det. Baumhover collected it.
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/19th_Judicial_District/caseofinterest/2018CR2003/001/Warrantless Arrest Affidavit.pdf

That’s what I thought as well, but there’s not much they can do with it if it was locked or without a search warrant.
jmo