Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #37

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You seem like the best googler on Websleuths. Thank you for your quick Google replies. ;)
And it's only her first day here.

I'm assuming you're being sincere in your compliment :)

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  • #483
Even this one answer, will probably produce, a great deal of rubbish.
It would be great to hear his response.:D
I would think, his Defence, will not have him on the stand, as his answers, and accounts of happenings, will be laughable.

I would LOVE to see Juan Martinez question CW on the stand.
 
  • #484
Do you think he would have placed the bodies in that oil field if he thought he was going to get caught? Do you think he would have had the hubris to stand on his porch and give those interviews if he thought he was going to get caught?

I think during those interviews, he was pleased with himself.:D
He thought his actions will not be discovered, and he was so smart, in figuring this out.
He felt, his disposal site (the tanks) was his brilliant idea.
He probably, was going to place SW into another tank, when time permitted, but NUA's actions, prevented this.
MOO.
 
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And it's only her first day here.

I'm assuming you're being sincere in your compliment :)

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I Google my self . But ya been late with my consultant fee as of late. :)
 
  • #486
The OB who weighed in here said she couldn't recommend it because she didn't know the quantities of content or something to that effect. No OB would recommend unknown supplements. My opinion is based on MY knowledge and experience, not on the experiences of other posters.

We have no idea what SW's OB told her because none of us were there. Your opinion is based on YOUR experience, but you didn't have HER doctor. Others have had different experiences than you with OBs and nutritional supplements. YMMV

I fail to see how any of this plays into her murder.
 
  • #487
@gitana1 or @Mrspratcher .... is there any chance the search warrants and what was recovered will be released? I'm not sure if that information is typically released.

I’m not sure. We did get a copy of the warrantless arrest affidavit, but unless the search warrants are attached as exhibits to a motion, I don’t know whether we will have access to them.

I remember with the Casey Anthony case, everything was released. I wish the same would happen here.
 
  • #488
Nope. Likely they are on a family plan in both their names. The phone was located in the house where they both live and so he has the authority to give consent.
Why on earth would LE presume they were on a family plan? Seems to me they would want to protect the integrity of the investigation by obtaining a search warrant. JMO
 
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Thank you for the brief synopsis on the Oprah situation. That was a long time ago but I remember the mad cow debacle now. When you said she criticized a meat diet I was thinking of Paleo, lol! Good point on the altitude thing. I just can't see how a jury would buy that the Thrive patches were dangerous because they contain ingredients that many adults take daily without issue. But perhaps it would be wise for the prosecution to have a counter-expert ready to testify as to the safety of taking caffeine and vitamins in the amounts in the patches. JMO.

I read in the past, that placing loads of scoops of caffeine, into a cup, and drinking it, can have life threatening outcomes. MOO.
Probably, the many bad reports about these caffeinated drinks may be used, in stating they affect the body adversely.
 
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I’m not sure. We did get a copy of the warrantless arrest affidavit, but unless the search warrants are attached as exhibits to a motion, I don’t know whether we will have access to them.

I remember with the Casey Anthony case, everything was released. I wish the same would happen here.
Thank you for answering! I wish the same as well. I would really like to see those warrants, what LE was looking for, and what the warrants yielded.
 
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Nope. Likely they are on a family plan in both their names. The phone was located in the house where they both live and so he has the authority to give consent.
riolove77 Curious if SW's cell phone and cell phone plan was actually separate from CW's cell phone plan and under her name independently for billing purposes as it would be a tax deduction expense that SW could claim on her income taxes as an business expense. That isn't to suggest that they didn't have the same cell phone provider between them but that maybe it was separate un-linked accounts for tax/business purposes.
 
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The OB who weighed in here said she couldn't recommend it because she didn't know the quantities of content or something to that effect. No OB would recommend unknown supplements. My opinion is based on MY knowledge and experience, not on the experiences of other posters.

Respectfully, what is your knowledge and experience with this supplement?
 
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What I wouldn’t pay to see the interrogation video of CW telling that insane story to LE.

I’ll bet they were completely incredulous, but wanted to let him go with it, as it locks him in to a particular narrative.

If not for the tragedy here, I’m sure those investigators would have been holding back laughter. What a dope.

Can you imagine the chatter between members, after their interrogation.:):):)
Being a fly on the wall, would be terrific.
Probably with time, we will get to see the interrogation, even after he is found guilty. MOO.
 
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And it's only her first day here.

I'm assuming you're being sincere in your compliment :)

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@Slayer Girl welcome! You’re doing so good! Already using multi-quote! Glad to have you with us!
 
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riolove77 Curious if SW's cell phone and cell phone plan was actually separate from CW's cell phone plan and under her name independently for billing purposes as it would be a tax deduction expense that SW could claim on her income taxes as an business expense. That isn't to suggest that they didn't have the same cell phone provider between them but that maybe it was separate un-linked accounts for tax/business purposes.
I don’t understand the relevance, as there is no indication that LE did anything improperly here.
 
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I think you can sell a house every two years without declaring capital gains.
Hi human,
In my country (not USA) we can sell our principal residence without any time frame constrictions of when we can sell it and without having to declare capital gains as long as it is your principal residence and not a rental or investment property. I am wondering if that is the same in the USA regarding principal residence and capital gains matters.
 
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Why on earth would LE presume they were on a family plan? Seems to me they would want to protect the integrity of the investigation by obtaining a search warrant. JMO

They would want to protect his constitutional rights. If he consents, then they have met their constitutional duty. Nothing further would be required.

Consent or a warrant. Either one works. Both satisfy the 4th Amendment right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures.
 
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So Shanann lied to her entire following about her OB approving these Thrive patches which were bad for her pregnancy, and not ONE person who actively took Thrive and watched these videos is said to have come forward to say she was harming her unborn child for the sake of promotion and profit.

And with the viciousness over the videos, it would have been mentioned and picked apart like crazy by now if it had.

IMO there is no way any of us can diagnose Shanann's pregnancy risk after the fact, and state that:

1. The OB would not have approved these supplements and they were dangerous to her pregnancy
2. She willfully lied and risked her child's life due to said supplements
3. Therefore she didn't care about her children's lives
4. In fact would deliberately attempt to harm them
5. And could have strangled her babies before CW in fact strangled her and was the one who killed their unborn child.
6. Without being a doctor and without seeing her in person. (A doctor would not diagnose this way either.)

If this can fly in any way whatsoever, I'll be waiting for the massive class action lawsuits connecting Thrive to vanity, greed, pregnancy loss and total sociopathic lack of caring which can result in the murder of your children.

ALL JMO.
 
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@Slayer Girl welcome! You’re doing so good! Already using multi-quote! Glad to have you with us!
Hi Mrspratcher
I have been reading this Watts thread since the beginning and through that, I have learned a lot from what I have read and in particular how important it is to use quotes and multi quotes. :)
 
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