Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #4

[gitana1]

Just popping in to say...my sister sold the Thrive patches. They contain an incredible amount of caffeine. Trying to get off of the patches made you feel awful. I had horrible headaches and felt so shaky. This may experience with them. This is especially true if you take the accompanied pills.

Welcome!! I tried to read the ingredients. It seems they would have to have some sort of stimulant. Wow!

 

[RavenCC2020]

Christopher Watts to be served charging documents in jail cell for Frederick slayings

“The Weld County District Attorney's Office plans to serve a Frederick man accused of killing his pregnant wife and two young daughters with documents informing him of the charges on Monday — but he will learn of those charges in his jail cell and not in a courtroom.“

Makes sense. They want to get the charges on the record by deadline and see to it he has a copy in his hand at the same time. No need to open a courtroom and the expense of having court reporter, attorney's etc all there since he is already being arraigned on Tuesday.

 

[gitana1]

Yes. I don't think anyone has the ability to really "delete" anything from a computer or cellphone.

Casey Anthony tried that, and although they found the info they needed after the trial, they did find it.

Shoot it was a sleuther here who found that info! AZLAwyer!

But a good example is jodi arias. She deleted photos IIRC and put her camera in the washing machine and they still recovered erased photos.

 

[1&2&3]

A few pages back, we were discussing what S.W. probably made a month according to her being in the 80% bracket.

One of you gave a figure after reading the charts that were posted. Did that figure include the percentages she would gain from people she had brought into the company? In other companies similar to this, one gets credit for each person they bring in. I have no idea how much it would be. Does anyone know?

One thing I thought about is all these trips she takes to sales conferences, is she paying for her own expenses such as flight tickets, hotel, and meals? This could really run the CC bills up!!

Of course, she can deduct it off her taxes at year end, but that doesn’t pay those CC bills.

It was mentioned she had an $800.00 monthly car allowance. Wouldn’t that pay her car payment and insurance? She drove a Lexus. What was the company’s rules on distance as to whether to drive or fly? Did she really travel across the United States or only traveled in a specific area / region out west?

 

[DexterMorgan]

They automatically tell you why you are being arrested. But they do have to arraignment you within the next open court date or so.

 

[DexterMorgan]

A few pages back, we were discussing what S.W. probably made a month according to her being in the 80% bracket.

One of you gave a figure after reading the charts that were posted. Did that figure include the percentages she would gain from people she had brought into the company? In other companies similar to this, one gets credit for each person they bring in. I have no idea how much it would be. Does anyone know?

One thing I thought about is all these trips she takes to sales conferences, is she paying for her own expenses such as flight tickets, hotel, and meals? This could really run the CC bills up!!

Of course, she can deduct it off her taxes at year end, but that doesn’t pay those CC bills.

It was mentioned she had an $800.00 monthly car allowance. Wouldn’t that pay her car payment and insurance? She drove a Lexus. What was the company’s rules on distance as to whether to drive or fly? Did she really travel across the United States or only traveled in a specific area / region out west?

You folks are fixated on her spending and not his. Plus some act like she was selling snake oil and tricking people to support her lifestyle.

She wasn't a gypsy, card reader folks. Lol. Come on.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Don't those medications also require an Rx?

S copolymer

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Let this person know your plans when you will be with him. Have a system set up between you where you check in.

Don’t be embarrassed or ashamed to confide in another person. This may save your life! If you go missing, your friend will be able to give a heads up as to what she knew.

Better yet, document your fears. ...If anything happens to me, look for .......etc

 

[strawberry]

Chris Watts..thrive patches, buffed up (possible steroids), brain issues..reminds me of Chris Benoit (those murders were also horrific )

And he'll get all soft again in protective custody he he

 

[bears10]

You folks are fixated on her spending and not his. Plus some act like she was selling snake oil and tricking people to support her lifestyle.

She wasn't a gypsy, card reader folks. Lol. Come on.

BBM. I’ve read a lot about various MLM companies, and majority of them are basically snake oil. No tea promoted on instagram is going to give you a flat tummy. It’s called diet and exercise. And I will go as far to say that many of the people who sell these products are tricking people into buying. On the other hand, many of the sellers truly believe in the products they sell because they’ve been tricked themselves.

 

[PommyMommy]

The mark on Chris Watt's neck in this video looks odd to me because it doesn't look like a shaving issue caused by a razor, it looks like a scratch but on reviewing the video on an enlarged screen it does look like a bite mark. I am surprised it hasn't been noticed sooner or maybe it has already been noted.

It has been discussed but I don't think we've ever come to a conclusion what it is - scratch, bite, etc. When I zoom in, I see the red area and also a little higher and to the right what looks like a thumbprint bruise, but I have a pretty good imagination too, so that might be it, lol.

 

[MyBelle]

CW doesn't strike me as an especially intelligent guy. He's like Drew and the others in many ways, but I don't think he has their smarts. To me in that interview he looked like the walls were closing in on him not like he was in control and outsmarting everyone.

He comes across to me as very introverted. I really don't do SM. Was CW active?

 

[DexterMorgan]

BBM. I’ve read a lot about various MLM companies, and majority of them are basically snake oil. No tea promoted on instagram is going to give you a flat tummy. It’s called diet and exercise. And I will go as far to say that many of the people who sell these products are tricking people into buying. On the other hand, many of the sellers truly believe in the products they sell because they’ve been tricked themselves.

If one of her customers killed her then I would agree.

But hubby killed her. Jmo

 

[SuperTmo]

I raised several children and they did this type of thing to dolls, stuffed animals, etc. I would find headless Barbies and all kinds of creepy things. I did find it a really creepy post considering the horrible outcome. I am not saying that I am convinced her girls did put the dolly like that because I wouldn't put it past this idiot man to do it and send her the photo OR just leave it for her to find. I am just saying my kiddos did some of the craziest stuff with their "babies", I was a tad concerned at times lol. They all grew up to be good people, thank God.
Again, I would not put it past this monster to do stuff like that

Oh my daughter had lots of mishaps with her babies, heads falling off, etc.. but she never ever posed them as if they were at a crime scene. So you are saying at ages 4 and 3, your kids would have known to not only wrap the doll like a dead body but position it in a way to make it look longer and they’d put something on the pillow to make it look like a head? And that they would be able to fold and wrap that plastic mat so neatly? Plastic is slippery, but yet look at how tidy the edges are folded together.

 

[RavenCC2020]

I don't know. To me he seemed emotionless where he shouldn't be (no real concern at all for his family) and I saw the dupers delight (which I don't think means they're overall having a blast) but I don't think he was enjoying the attention or the thought of getting away with it.

He was holding his body close and rocking. He also swallowed hard a couple times. Dude isn't like you or me, that's for sure, but I think he was feeling some uncomfortable stuff inside.

"My heart is racing."

I think that was probably true.

Reading your post just made me realize what exactly about him differed from Scott Peterson. Earlier I said the likability factor. Well that I still believe BUT what is vastly different about him and Scott is Peterson HAD to be the center of attention and thrived in it. Both Laci's mother and Anne Byrd his sister said when there was a get together Scott was front and center.

CW is the opposite. His entire body language and things I've read, observed in videos and pics is this is not the guy who likes being front and center. Actually it makes him very uncomfortable to be in that position. More then likely why he picked the wife he did, she connected so well with people it was his way of extending his circle because he could not do it on his own. What attracts these men to women is usually the thing they end up hating them for.

Bottom line, Peterson was confident, cocky and still likable....CW lacks confidence, is more a wallflower in certain situations, and probably not all that likable or popular. He is awkward socially and that has been said by friends who said he was a good guy kind of quiet. He can be because his wife was the social one and he tagged along.

 

[gitana1]

I just believe that there's video of him coming and going on the company property that night. Why would he simply decide to confess unless he knew he was busted? I think he asked for the time with his family before his arrest. That's all he's got, he's going to need them and he had to tell his story. JMO

Some of us watched his interviews and had a feeling he was going to confess quickly. Just a feeling it was actually weighing on him. The pressure of being cornered and also bad feelings about what he had done to his children.

IMO it is easy to say all these creeps are pure psychopaths enjoying every moment but he used words and exhibited body language that psychopaths don't. He was feeling nervousness. Some fear for himself. Hence the hard swallow and "heart racing".

He seems to have difficulty when asked to spell his children's names and talk about his relationship with them. He had some tells that he felt emotion about what he had done. Holding himself and rocking.

Pure psychopaths don't do any of that. They have low physiological arousal rates. They don't fear getting caught typically.

This creep is clearly defective. But it seems the easy way out to label him a psychopath and thereby explain away the inexplicable.

To me it's more complex than that with this person. Not as black and white.

Into the Mind of a Psychopath | DiscoverMagazine.com

 

[SuperTmo]

Yeah in my experience really weird things get done to Barbies. I'm assuming this doll in the picture (I haven't seen it. When I go to her page it's not there) is an American Girl doll or something like that? They're relatively expensive and more likely to be babied by their owners. Just IME.

No; it’s more like one of those life size Barbie dolls.

 

[heed101]

If one of her customers killed her then I would agree.

But hubby killed her. Jmo

Her hubby was her customer.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Don't those medications also require an Rx?

Yes they do.

Consumer Health digest reviews Thrive patches here -https://www.consumerhealthdigest.com/weight-loss-reviews/thrive-patch.html

Not much different to any other diet/wellness ingredients. Not much scientific data to support the company claims that I can see.The method of delivery via the skin is different. What is also different is the price ( average $1-300 per month) compared to most supplements sold. Billion $ business selling an "easy way" to lose weight.

 

[strawberry]

Ugh his twitter cover pic is him and SW and kids. And why are they Steelers fans? Isn't she from NC via New Jersey and he from NC?

 

[LotsaLatte]

Just wondering at what age your children were that did that. I am an early childhood teacher and find that most 3 & 4 year olds mimic their parents. As they get older,then they do more of the crazy stuff. I had one student in first grade who stripped down her Barbie and Ken and put them in a shoebox together. She showed a recess teacher how they were "sleeping" together. The other teacher was aghast and came rushing to tell me. I knew this child and her circumstances. Had to call Mom and advise her. Irony of it all was the little girl later confessed to me that she did it to shock the teachers and complained when I didn't get all embarrassed. She said" Mom won't let me ever have my dolls at school now." My own kids cut off the doll's hair, drew on them,gave them piercing etc. They were in elementary school then.

All ages, they were just being silly and a little twisted. Not too worry too much, the oldest is a teacher and working on his PHD. They definitely weren't emulating my behavior lol - I never ripped off a Ken head and put it on a Barbie body nor did I even hang anything (stuffed animal, in this case) from a second story so a little sister would run into it. I didn't let them have much television or gaming experience at young ages, they enjoyed the outdoors and reading. They did take better care of things that were more expensive (i.e. American Girl dolls, etc.) I wouldn't put too much worry into a 6 year old putting a Barbie and Ken in a shoe box together. I did those things (not naked that I remember) and I even made a little pillow to make Barbie look pregnant lol

Again, I would not put it past this idiot to do that to the doll. I am just saying that children do the most shocking things at times so I am not ruling the girls out as having done the doll thing from that post.