Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #5

[KathrynL]

New order on defense's preserve and produce motion.
https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...ANTS MOTION TO PRESERVE AND PRODUCE (D-7).pdf

 

[MyBelle]

Could it be maybe that he started to doubt that the two girls were his biological children in addition to doubting the unborn baby ? .. I'm trying to rationalize why a father would do this to his own children and dump them in crude oil like they are trash .. something caused him to develop a deep hatred for them .. it's one thing to shoot them and kill them quickly and maybe bury them .. but to dump them in crude oil ? .. that's the only way I can rationalize him doing this to them .. he hated them for some reason

There is no way to rationalize something this despicable. I think CW has been a powder keg for a long time and something happened that lit the match.

 

[molly1255]

Or he was having an affair himself. This family was a mess under the facade. And I’ll almost bet documents and witnesses at trial will show it.

I think it was all a facade to him.

 

[Daracott]

Hi - I am new here but have been fascinated to read all of your posts. Just wondering if anyone else had noticed this motion which requests that defence experts be present for various testing including “items of evidence, such as firearms, bullets, and shell casings, and biological sample testing”. This suggests to me that it may not have been strangulation as has been suggested so far. But perhaps, again, this is a standard request? Hoping that the press conference will shed a little more light on things

https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...RESENT FOR SCIENTIFIC TESTING OF EVIDENCE.pdf

 

[Nali87]

The girlfriend Nicole and correct me if I am wrong.
But if she was basically the last one to see SW wouldn't law enforcement etc. not allow her to tell the whole story????? On national TV?

I doubt that they can impose a gag order. At most they can ask her not to.

 

[heed101]

Do we know anything about CW pre Shanann ?

Also, were there ever any 911 calls to their home ??

 

[cottonweaver]

I’m a bit confused by Nichole’s statement that SW had noticed CW was not as affectionate the last 3 weeks of their marriage...does this mean before they left for North Carolina as they were not around each other much at all.
Maybe he was withdrawing from text, chat other sm as well? Just not very clear.... https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...-chris-watts-was-arrested-for-familys-murder/

Just on the BIB above - apparently he closed his FB down a week before the killing.

I don't use FB any longer so I haven't been able to check myself but did post earlier - can someone check her FB for that week and see if there's any reaction from her, on her TLine in response to that act from him.
( OK she may just have called/text him and said "WTH !ur FB account has disappeared why Chris?"...)

 

[margarita25]

“On a Friday Facebook post, Shanann Watts brother Frankie Rzucek wrote that he always looked up to his sister and that she and his nieces "meant the absolute world to me."

"I just thank God that I got to spend the last (six) weeks loving, laughing, and enjoying what precious time I had with my sister and nieces that I loved with every inch of my soul," Rzucek wrote. "I wish I could go back in time and be there to keep you safe from harm. Sorry uncle couldn't save you. Absolutely heartbroken."“

Community mourns family; coroner IDs Shanann Watts and daughters

 

[Barb Wire]

Pregnant Woman Allegedly Killed By Husband Suspected Possible Cheating: Friend
Hayley Miller,HuffPost 5 hours ago
A pregnant woman found dead in Colorado last week had suspected her husband, who was arrested in connection with her death, may have been cheating on her in recent weeks, according to a friend of the woman.

Nickole Atkinson told ABC News that her friend Shanann Watts’ marriage to Chris Watts had been strained when she and their two daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, went missing on Aug. 13. Two days later, Chris Watts was arrested. Localnews outlets and family membersreported that he had confessed to killing his wife and children.
“He wasn’t being the loving Chris that he normally was,” Atkinson said in an interview that aired on ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Monday. “He wasn’t touching or hugging or doing stuff like that.”
I don't know how to get video's here

 

[molly1255]

Do we know anything about CW pre Shanann ?

I've not heard of anything. If he had previous relationships, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he left a path of destruction in them as well.

 

[gitana1]

The girlfriend Nicole and correct me if I am wrong.
But if she was basically the last one to see SW wouldn't law enforcement etc. not allow her to tell the whole story????? On national TV?

LE can't gag someone.

 

[The Farm]

Also, were there ever any 911 calls to their home ??

I thought I had read somewhere there was not.

 

[Davia18]

I've not heard of anything. If he had previous relationships, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he left a path of destruction in them as well.

I am surprised media hasn't found any ex's or old friends yet.

 

[SN76]

12 am for the Netherlands.

And Italy!

 

[gitana1]

Hey, my mom‘s Dutch as well!

So cool!!

 

[HayLouise]

Chris Watts newest motion wants defense expert present if @WeldCountyDA tests for

"evidence, such as firearms, bullets, and shell casings,

and biological sample testing."

Makes one wonder if defense has reason to believe Shanann Watts was shot. #kdvr

Rob Low on Twitter

 

[PeekingDuck]

delete

 

[passionflower]

I am surprised media hasn't found any ex's or old friends yet.

Esp in NC. Nothing about childhood, high school? Only 1 teacher.

 

[cottonweaver]

Chris Watts newest motion wants defense expert present if @WeldCountyDA tests for

"evidence, such as firearms, bullets, and shell casings,

and biological sample testing."

Makes one wonder if defense has reason to believe Shanann Watts was shot. #kdvr

Rob Low on Twitter

Interesting cause so far we have only been told that the girls were strangled.

 

[gitana1]

Yes hard to fathom the catalyst, his true character, motive, psych disorders but it's like some of his friends of already said, he had them fooled too. (Nick Thayer & his wife would never have thought it possibe from him either.) Just don't see how he could go with some kind of temporary insanity/ diminished responsibility due to intoxication or drugs / "I snapped" defense when this is three killings, one after the other.

Basically I need to read up on that "family annihalators" link someone posted upthread.

Deadly Dads: Some of the Shocking Reasons Fathers Kill Their Own Children | The Forensic Outreach Library

The anatomy of family murder - the patterns and warning signs

Characteristics of family killers revealed: The male dominated crime most common in August