Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #5

[gitana1]

Endorsed witness list is interesting. Is this a draft of witnesses planned to be called by the State, as known thus far? Question for legals.
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/19th_Judicial_District/caseofinterest/2018CR2003/001/COMPLAINT AND INFORMATION.pdf

I think that's right. It's who they can verify will testify so far.

 

[passionflower]

Wondering if CW abused any of them before? How did SW get neck/ back injury and neckbrace? Had he been rough before?

 

[Deleted member 121463]

It does seem to say that Shannan died as a result of Chris terminating the pregnancy. This is very odd and disturbing, if true.

 

[gitana1]

Shanann's dad was at the news conference and made a short speech thanking everyone . It is already up on YouTube.

Bless his soul. That was hard to watch. he looks like a different human.

But I;m so glad they were able to come to Colorado to seek justice for their precious Shanann. They need to be here.

 

[passionflower]

While we wait for the affidavit, I have a question. IF more information is released in the affidavit than was released in the presser, why is that? Why would they not answer questions (i.e. about motive) in the presser and then release info. in an affidavit?

(Hypothetical at this point)

Maybe to save dad and brother from more grief even though they know allot?

 

[DoABarrelRoll]

I really think, based on the Defense's request for swabs of girls' necks/fingernail clippings of SW, the defense theory is going to be that SW strangled/otherwise murdered the girls, and that CW came upon the scene and then killed SW.

Sorry if this postulation has already been discussed ad nauseam. It's just so infuriating that he's likely going to attempt to attack one of the last things SW has left: her reputation as a loving mother.

 

[Boodles]

I also clearly heard, “warrantless arrest.”

Please elaborate. From whom? In what context?

 

[cottonweaver]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=312515802633747

bump

so posters can listen again to what he said about the termination intent charge.

 

[gitana1]

Is the charge for unwanted termination of a pregnancy because in the St of CO he cannot be charged with murder for the unborn child? This might be the maximum charge they can go for with the unborn child. This entire topic was hugely debated in CO over the past few years in the legislature. Any atty's out there that can clear this up?

That is exactly what it appears to me to be. A compromise bill.

 

[Yellow Rose]

Can someone link the livefeed again?

 

[gitana1]

While we wait for the affidavit, I have a question. IF more information is released in the affidavit than was released in the presser, why is that? Why would they not answer questions (i.e. about motive) in the presser and then release info. in an affidavit?

(Hypothetical at this point)

That's what I'm wondering. Makes me think there's not much in the affidavit.

 

[gitana1]

@gitana1 what does the BBM part mean? Is it the motive?

On or about August 13, 2018, Christopher Lee Watts, believing that an official proceeding was pending, in progress, or about to be instituted, and acting without legal right or authority, unlawfully and feloniously willfully destroyed, mutilated, concealed, removed, or altered a human body, part of a human body, or human remains with intent to impair its or their appearance or availability in the official proceedings; in violation of section 18-8-610.5, C.R.S.

It means to interfere with a coming investigation by hiding the bodies.

 

[SN76]

Bless SW family...the pain and suffering they are enduring now just has no words....

 

[Amster]

The pregnancy was terminated because the mom was killed. He didn't try to make her abort......he KILLED her. This charge is for the death of Niko. The DA explained this.

 

[sfbaynancydrew]

@gitana1 what does the BBM part mean? Is it the motive?

On or about August 13, 2018, Christopher Lee Watts, believing that an official proceeding was pending, in progress, or about to be instituted, and acting without legal right or authority, unlawfully and feloniously willfully destroyed, mutilated, concealed, removed, or altered a human body, part of a human body, or human remains with intent to impair its or their appearance or availability in the official proceedings; in violation of section 18-8-610.5, C.R.S.

BBM is internet shorthand for "Bolded By Me". Just saw that no one had answered that!

 

[cottonweaver]

Is the charge for unwanted termination of a pregnancy because in the St of CO he cannot be charged with murder for the unborn child? This might be the maximum charge they can go for with the unborn child. This entire topic was hugely debated in CO over the past few years in the legislature. Any atty's out there that can clear this up?

Yes, that's how I understood it - it's not what I originally thought ( many of us thought the charge pdf was saying he had tried to terminate the pregnancy and so she had died.) See video bumped

 

[cheko1]

My heart goes out to SW family!

Could this mean a possible petition for separation/divorce proceedings, by Shanann ?

I sincerely hope this was the case......then SW would of got the last word in!!! No happiness on anything involved in this. But would prove SW did a voice before she was silenced forever.

 

[Deleted member 227095]

This is what the DP looks like!!
Oh man if he were in Texas
Jmo

I don't believe CO has death penalty. There was chatter this weekend that the legislature might take up the issue again in order to make it an option for this case. Not sure of legal technicalities of this as I am not an atty.

 

[Jacquie1]

I hope this is ok to point out and mods please delete if not but on the close up picture of CW,
is that a scratch on his nose?
Rob Low (@RobLowTV) on Twitter

Looks like marks from eye glasses

 

[djameson]

I hope they are keeping a close eye on this guy and don't let him 'take the easy way out'