Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #6

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  • #121
So reasonable doubt, legal wise, regarding the kids being deseased? It’s his word against Shananna’s. What would SW motive be? I find it all bs. He’s not a good liar, maybe a “good” womanizer or manipulator but his body language and what he said in his interview deceives himself.
 
  • #122
LE knew about the affair and he at first denied it. Maybe that same video captured the coming and going of a car that could be identified.
That’s what I’m thinking
 
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Delurking to ponder if maybe the bodybuilding was to get stronger to carry out the crimes of the 4 murders...
 
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His story is preposterous. I don't believe SW killed her children. But even if I were to doubt, his story in the affidavit doesn't make sense.

In the affidavit, it says that CW claims he told SW he wanted to separate, then he went downstairs "for a moment" and returned upstairs to their room to see (via baby monitor) that SW was strangling Celeste while Bella was blue on her bed. That's just ridiculous. I don't know how long it takes to strangle someone (I'm sure experienced sleuthers could enlighten me!), but I assume it's not very quick, and to only be downstairs "for a moment" and come upstairs to find one child already dead, and the other being "actively strangled"...? Within a moment or so? Not only that, but say he rushed in, and he -- I assume -- would try to stop SW from strangling the child, but couldn't stop her in time and so both of the children died? I mean, he's 225 lbs and muscular. I'm sure he could've stopped her easily.

I guess there is much more that will come to light. It's my first rodeo, here.
 
  • #126
It was mentioned on a previous thread that the place where the bodies were found wasn't where he usually worked.

Maybe he researched the area on a company computer that would have the time/date. Premeditation.
 
  • #127
They may have. The document notes that the neighbor's camera captured SW's car leaving the garage at 1:48 am but doesn't mention what time the car returned or who was driving. He may have had assistance with body disposal.
I wonder if that was a mistake in the affidavit (perhaps it was hastily cobbled together), I think it should have stated that the neighbour's camera captured SW arriving home at 1:48 am. Earlier in the affadavit, Nicole says she dropped SW off at 1:48 am, seems too much of a coincidence that the times are exactly the same.
 
  • #128
Heads up folks !!

We do not sleuth "innocents" or witnesses. So, no naming the gf/mistress or any witnesses, and no posting their personal information or anything about them other than what might be in MSM.
 
  • #129
In his press interview he said he hopes his kids come and ‘barrel’ him over.
 
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So reasonable doubt, legal wise, regarding the kids being deseased? It’s his word against Shananna’s. What would SW motive be? I find it all bs. He’s not a good liar, maybe a “good” womanizer or manipulator but his body language and what he said in his interview deceives himself.

I think his motive is he wanted out and he didn't want to pay child support or divorce lawyers.
 
  • #132
They may have. The document notes that the neighbor's camera captured SW's car leaving the garage at 1:48 am but doesn't mention what time the car returned or who was driving. He may have had assistance with body disposal.
Ashley Banfield was saying the mistress may have helped dig the grave
 
  • #133
If you walk in on your wife, trying to strangle your babies, you knock the wife out, and then CALL 911 FOR HELP.

If you do snap and kill the wife, you can still call 911 and tell them she was killing you children and you were defending them.

You don't cram the babies dead bodies into an empty tool box and drive them to your job site, and stick them down a crude oil well, and then put on your favorite Tar Heels T-shirt, and smile for the tv cam the next morning.


I know

but if we go with him I would think he might not be thinking all that clearly

he just saw his wife kill his two kids killed her had gone through telling her he needed to go kinda tired
 
  • #134
If the mistress is known by mutual friends she will feel the need like Amber Frey to come forward I would think. I don’t know her name but wondering if she will be fired if she works for oil company .
 
  • #135
This should be a direct link:
Google Maps
Did he work out there? (I know his company owned the land). The reason I ask is that it is 30+ miles from Frederick. Did he go out of his way to dump them there?
 
  • #136
Hopefully they can pinpoint the TOD of the girls before SW got home.

tod would help a lot in terms of the whole mess

i just cant help but think crude oil has to mess a lot up

is there gonna be more nuance with what comes out tomm or is it gonna be the same thing over?
 
  • #137
The affidavit practically comes out and says this.
Daddy planned his defense.

We can’t say this like it’s a fact. I assume that room they spoke in is recorded so I’m sure the dad would be heard saying that. I cannot imagine his dad told him to say that. His dad is a victim too. IMO
 
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Did anyone to save the link to that long, useless video from the helicopter the other day? I’m the absolute worst with geography but doesn’t this look like the area they were flying over? Or maybe everything out there looks like this...?

Yes I know where to find that video and the actual site where the bodies were found is NOT on that video
 
  • #140
I do think he will kill himself
I wouldn't be surprised by that at all. Not because of guilt, but because of the unfavorable opinions that people will have and because basically his life is over.
 
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