CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #8

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  • #301
Anadanko would be ableto check the GPS on thr truck he uses - it's their truck.

I think LE and Anadanko knew by Tues evening he had been out there at 6 am before going to work & smartly got a drone up there ( maybe it's Anadanko's). Likely found the sheet that night - drove out to take a cellphone photo & compare it with the sheets in the trash = BINGO

Likely they knew there was a grave out there by early Wed.
Why would he dispose of them at his workplace? It’s so stupid!
 
  • #302
And he could say she killed them and disposed of them, and he didn’t know where they were, but still he’d still have to pay the piper. He must have had a plan that got foiled where he would get away with it, but I sure can’t figure out what it was.

Yeah, everything points to hubrous IMO. His tremendous ego led him to believe he may actually get away with it.
 
  • #303
Your 'no ring' comment is a biggy to me... I didn't notice that at first.
My husband lost weight and eventually lost his gold wedding band. He didn't want me to know either. He kept saying it's here somewhere, I'll find it, it's here...this went on for months. Finally, I said just order a silicone wedding ring already! So he did and he wears it every day. lol. But it did worry me as to why he wasn't wearing it, for months, even though I knew and saw for my own eyes it was too big. He just never got around to resizing it and lost it.

Now, I do recall seeing CW wearing a silicone ring. Those things are cheap and you can get one for less than $20 and would have been ideal for his job. IMO, if he always wore a silicone one he could very well have lot weight and it no longer fit but getting a new one would be pretty easy. Not wearing one for 8+ months is a red flag. Surely, SW would have noticed. But, she may have been to afraid to admit it to even friends. I wouldn't have.
 
  • #304
I have had to question people that have mirdered others and their family members. Before they ever confess, they might rock, hold themselves with crossed arms, get really thirsty, and smile. Even when they talk about their crimes, sometimes they smile. It is really disturbing because their body language does not reflect how you think most people would behave having killed their family members. Yes, most people behave with sadness, remorse, grief, crying, devastation, but not all of them. The ones that smile, it almost seems like they want you to like them. This is my opinion based off having to question people who have committed crimes.
Yes and he doesn't seem to be doing that now that he has been caught. Now he looks concerned, with no nervous laughter.
If he laughs nervously when he is upset, why not now?
 
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Why would he dispose of them at his workplace? It’s so stupid!

It is BUT in the limited time he had, what other options did he have? Especially if he wanted to destroy evidence on the girls? I think SW's delayed flight may have foiled a "better" plan
 
  • #307
Except he wasn't such a devoted family man. He was having an affair with a co worker.
That is not my idea of a devoted family man.

Don't all devoted family men throw their wieners around town when they have a wife and 2 little girls and a new baby on the way and then murder them all????? I bet all of us ladies want to sign up for such devoted family men....(NOT SO MUCH)....LOL these CW supporters crack me up. I LOVE my ignore button!!
 
  • #308
But if he had a girlfriend, why snap at that?

Curious to know why you refer to the mistress as a girlfriend, instead of a mistress, as nobody else has used the word girlfriend yet? It implies a much more innocent circumstance than an affair. And you seem bent on championing CW’s innocence.
 
  • #309
My husband lost weight and eventually lost his gold wedding band. He didn't want me to know either. He kept saying it's here somewhere, I'll find it, it's here...this went on for months. Finally, I said just order a silicone wedding ring already! So he did and he wears it every day. lol. But it did worry me as to why he wasn't wearing it, for months, even though I knew and saw for my own eyes it was too big. He just never got around to resizing it and lost it.

Now, I do recall seeing CW wearing a silicone ring. Those things are cheap and you can get one for less than $20 and would have been ideal for his job. IMO, if he always wore a silicone one he could very well have lot weight and it no longer fit but getting a new one would be pretty easy. Not wearing one for 8+ months is a red flag. Surely, SW would have noticed. But, she may have been to afraid to admit it to even friends. I wouldn't have.
My husband and I both lost our wedding rings like 10 years ago, maybe even longer, lol. But neither of us are jewelry people. We don't mind that the other doesn't wear a ring.
 
  • #310
True story: I didn't cry when my son died. I wanted to, but I couldn't. You know when I DID cry? Later that night when friends came over and cooked dinner for us. She asked where our potato peeler was and I broke down in tears because I was too embarrassed to say that we didn't have one. It's weird but sometimes in those early days after loss, you have no control over your emotions-or lack of emotions.

With that being said, uh, yeah. None of that applies to him IMO. He stood there looking and talking like his dog had taken off down the street and he was secretly hoping that the new owners kept it.
I am so sorry for your loss. My friend lost her 16-year-old son just over a month ago. It was not unexpected; he'd been in decline for years from a heart issue and DMD and was under hospice care for final three weeks. Since he passed, she has described the waves/rushes of emotion that overtake her when she least expects it. Peace.
 
  • #311
At what point does someone decide to actually kill? I am sure many of us have had a random thought about killing, but that is not actually taking actions to implement a plan.

Family annihilators are fascinating to me, because I don't think the research is completely accurate. It seems like family annihilators are becoming increasingly more prevalent, unless it is just more knowledge about the syndrome.

This guy seems to fit the "Control" type. If he can't control everything, he blames the family for his problems, and wants to just start over.
 
  • #312
Why would he dispose of them at his workplace? It’s so stupid!

If he regularly started his days at that work site, then the fact that he was at that location (as tracked by his cellphone) would not raise suspicion.
 
  • #313
All anyone really knows is that he was involved in an affair with someone at work. It might have been going on a week. Or it might have been a one-night-stand. But you reminded me of something. One time my husband was talking to his daughter's stepfather about his hobbies. The stepfather said family-this and family-that. My husband seemed sort of jealous....jealous isn't really the right word...but my husband had hobbies that didn't involve us and thought maybe his priorities were messed up because his life didn't revolve around us like this other man's did. Then about 2 years later he left that family for another woman. So was it a façade or did he just become not as involved anymore? We don't know.
I don't care how long he was involved with the other woman. He was involved, so devoted family man does not apply to him.
 
  • #314
Don't all devoted family men throw their wieners around town when they have a wife and 2 little girls and a new baby on the way and then murder them all????? I bet all of us ladies want to sign up for such devoted family men....(NOT SO MUCH)....LOL these CW supporters crack me up. I LOVE my ignore button!!

My ignore button has been busy today for the same reason.
 
  • #315
I feel like from everything I've seen and read SW was happy and loved her husband. It is one thing to suspect an affair and quite another to have it realized as fact. She may have had some doubts about their relationship, but I don't feel like she went home that night and told him she was leaving him. For one thing, I'm sure she was tired and NU said she had not been feeling well. That doesn't seem like a great time to start that kind of conversation. Whatever went down that night, I think it was him who started it and not her.
 
  • #316
Well, it's referenced in the affidavit. "A two-day investigation revealed Chris was actively involved in an affair with a co-worker, which he denied in previous interviews." The rest is redacted. But basically the affair is confirmed in the affidavit per the investigators.

Now as far as who that co-worker is, many of us feel we know, but we aren't permitted to discuss that here. Her SM has been erased, so there's no real sleuthing to do right now anyway.
It's ok for you to mention her but I couldn't without someone losing their 🤬🤬🤬🤬?

FYI, all of you can do as you please off this site, you just can't name names or discuss the how and where-tos of the sleuthing of said person on this site. We should be able to discuss how the mistress dynamic plays into the murders in our speculation. Mods? We can mention that he did indeed have a mistress and how it related to the case as it is stated in the affidavit? Just not any personal info about her or who she is?

*I do suggest however, that no one post directly on SW or her family's SM pages. That is weird and is inserting yourself into it.
 
  • #317
Curious to know why you refer to the mistress as a girlfriend, instead of a mistress, as nobody else has used the word girlfriend yet? It implies a much more innocent circumstance than an affair. And you seem bent on championing CW’s innocence.

Curious indeed. The co-worker may have been a fling, a one (or several) night stand. Why refer to the mistress as a girlfriend? To me, a girlfriend is more intimate as it implies a relationship.
 
  • #318
I think I've mentioned before, but I bet his electronics are going to be a treasure trove.
 
  • #319
If he regularly started his days at that work site, then the fact that he was at that location (as tracked by his cellphone) would not raise suspicion.
But when they were found...And leave your phone at home when you’re disposing bodies you’ve just murdered.
 
  • #320
Just a random MOO post,

“When someone shows you who they are
, believe them the first time.” - Maya Angelou

He is a cheater.

He lied about being a cheater, until irrefutable evidence proved otherwise.

(I’ll take “Cold Blooded Killers” for $100 Alex)

He’s a liar. (See above)

Affairs don’t happen by “accident”. So much planning, lying, deception is required. So he’s been honing his lack of character in deception, sneaking, planning, and hiding all this time too.

He refused to return home until NA stated she would call the police.

Then there is the whole absurd story of him seeing SW in the midst of killing his child, and rather than stop her and save his child, he lets the baby die and kills SW. (my mind is blown) Okay, that doesn’t make any sense in any universe. But he just has to make it even more preposterous: Rigggghttt, CW goes to this horrific extreme to destroy evidence that would unequivocally exonerate him as the murderer. What!?

He desecrated his children! Who the **** does this?!

(“Who is C.W. and all family annihilators”, Alex)
 
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