CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #8

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Very easy for LE to check to see if CW has a dating profile.

Over here in the UK , dating companies, unlike other SM companies have been willing to share some info with our police on past cases.

Indeed if there's any accuracy to that report, a UK Sun or Daily Mail journalist - if not a US one, will be finding any existing profiles already.
 
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This has bothered me because of the motion for the defense also wanted their own experts for Firearms, bullets and casings.
Along with their own 'expert ' on the DNA of their necks.

This is the motion you are referring to and again it is general legal language it is not specifically suggesting there were fire arms used. If there were they would be listed in the affidavit for arrest.

https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...RESENT FOR SCIENTIFIC TESTING OF EVIDENCE.pdf
 
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Have you all discussed this cryptic paragraph from PEOPLE a couple of days sgo? Its from 21 august.

Chris Watts Allegedly Changed Story Several Times Before Being Charged with Murder of Wife, Daughters

Causes of death have not been released for Shanann, Bella or Celeste. But filings from prosecutors and the defense suggest at least some of them were strangled and that a “weapon” — possibly a gun — was involved.

I wouldn't consider PEOPLE to credible. Kinda like a cleaned up version Daily Mail without the bikini photos and Karashian garbage

But maybe he also hit her with something..... the autopsy results should be helpful
 
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I think the financial stress could have led to his affair.
I think that he was just a cheating man who thought that he was hot stuff.
 
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Amonet - I absolutely feel terrible after I do that. I'm 35 and still do it! It's just almost an I-don't-know-what-to-say laughter. However, I've never had anyone really close to me die so I've always been sheltered regarding death. Maybe that has something to do with it.

That's interesting. The uncle who died was someone I'd never met. My mom came into my bedroom to tell me, and I could tell by her face that she was upset, but I didn't know what to say or how to react. I wanted to be sympathetic and say I was sorry for her loss (our loss) and yet something went wrong and I started laughing.

I've had a number of much closer losses since then and that never happened with them.

I just feel like if that happened to someone on camera, they wouldn't be able to keep talking, they'd be laughing hysterically/maniacally (to an outsider) and they'd be trying to push the interviewer away, acting like someone who's been tickled for too long and really doesn't want this to be happening and is hugely embarrassed. As someone who has experienced that reaction, that is what I would be doing...I'd probably be laughing uncontrollably but trying to say "no, no!" Because you're aware of what's happening yet you can't control it or stop it. It's horrible.
 
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I agree it might have been a factor and it doesn't mean I'm blaming her. But if it contributed to their relationship problems, or their money problems it might be important. Her encouraging him to get fit and start selling too might have affected his confidence (and appearance, social courage) and played a part in him having an affair. That doesn't mean the affair was SW's fault! Not at all. But I'm curious to know how the MLM lifestyle affected their relationship and his actions. I 100% believe his actions are all on him. Just want to make that clear.

BBM.

Interestingly, in the video of the neighbors (the Thayers), the husband was asked if Chris' personality or confidence had changed, and he said that Chris became more confident in his running ability, and could now run longer distances, but not otherwise, and that he was still "shy Chris."
 
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NO.

Please stop sleuthing this or the thread will get shut down
is it not MSM Herat? Never come across that site before
It also does not name anyone.
LE will want to know if the suspect has a dating profile.
 
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Hadn't seen this 3rd video of CW

 
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I wonder if this is the loft couch? Big doll...wonder if that is a sheet

The doll isn’t as big as it looks in the photo. It is only 3 feet long, so it’s head is on the couch, not on the pillow. Think of a life size Barbie or Disney princess doll. Something else is under the Twister mat on the pillow to make it look like a head.
 
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No one really knows who took the photo only that SW posted it and I am not sure what the caption said verbatim, something about should I be worried or is this an indication of what is to come...It is beyond weird...

0_Chilling-final-photo-Chris-Watts-pregnant-wife-took-of-their-childrens-barbie-doll.jpg

I think Shanann took the photo. I think she only assumed the girls did it or maybe because C.W. told her they did.

Does anyone else see a creepy face on the part that is on the pillow on the right? I swear I do
 
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BBM.

Interestingly, in the video of the neighbors (the Thayers), the husband was asked if Chris' personality or confidence had changed, and he said that Chris became more confident in his running ability, and could now run longer distances, but not otherwise, and that he was still "shy Chris."
I was remembering her comment about how Thrive had helped him talk to strangers or something, like he was casually talking to new people despite having always been an introvert. That must have just been pitch, but it made me think.
 
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Hadn't seen this 3rd video of CW


Tx for that so those were the scent dogs alerting. He's so panicked when he hears that.
he's so concerned to get justifications in for why he wants and wanted to not stay at the house at the earliest opportunity.
He mentioned friends as an option - that would have been the perfect solution and I'll bet one of the Thayer's already offered to come and stay over so he could wait at the house in case they came back.
 
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I agree it might have been a factor and it doesn't mean I'm blaming her. But if it contributed to their relationship problems, or their money problems it might be important. Her encouraging him to get fit and start selling too might have affected his confidence (and appearance, social courage) and played a part in him having an affair. That doesn't mean the affair was SW's fault! Not at all. But I'm curious to know how the MLM lifestyle affected their relationship and his actions. I 100% believe his actions are all on him. Just want to make that clear.

I've become fascinated with MLM because of this. I think this whole case is a bunch of sand that built a mountain. A lot of little and big things came together and caused a perfect storm. So I'm interested as well as what part MLM played. I also think they were both 100% on board.
 
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Tx for that so those were the scent dogs alerting. He's so panicked when he hears that.
he's so concerned to get justifications in for why he wants and wanted to not stay at the house at the earliest opportunity.
He mentioned friends as an option - that would have been the perfect solution and I'll bet one of the Thayer's already offered to come and stay over so he could wait at the house in case they came back.

It looks like he's almost hyperventilating in the video. And it's the best view of a scratch on his neck that I've seen.
 
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I just now really starting going through her FB and lots of live video's. I'm currently into 2017, if you have time I'd recommend watching.
 
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I was remembering her comment about how Thrive had helped him talk to strangers or something, like he was casually talking to new people despite having always been an introvert. That must have just been pitch, but it made me think.

Stimulants will make you more socially outgoing.
 
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