CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #8

[DAdvocate]

Ugh, there‘s that grin on his face again. If you turn off the volume and watch the video, he looks like someone who just beat Usain Bolt and is excited about receiving the gold medal any moment!

This video more than any other convinced me it is a nervous smile and he doesn’t know he’s doing it.

 

[SuperTmo]

I have looked at ever insta post and I still can not figure out the layout of the house even with the floor plan. So I can't tell if this is living room, family room (on the main floor by the kitchen) or the loft...apparently that is a folded up twister mat...since when can a toddler fold anything that neatly?

This was one of my arguments against the kids doing it, it was folded way too neatly. Someone claiming to be some sort of expert on kids told me I was wrong. Hahaha, no I’m not.

 

[ThaiBali]

Shanann Watts

Scroll to the top to read her comments.

SW was a confident speaker so this comment leaves her confused, hence the reponse. Does anyone know when she left for AZ?

 

[Deleted member 117120]

If true, would likely come out at trial.

In reference to the possibility that SW was also having an affair. I don't believe SW was having an affair but if proven that she was, that is all the more additional motives for CW to do what he did to his family.

 

[cybervampira]

This video more than any other convinced me it is a nervous smile and he doesn’t know he’s doing it.

Of course he is nervous, he just killed his wife and kids, there are camera teams, police dogs and the feds around. Yep, he doesn’t know he’s doing it, controlling microexpressions ain‘t easy.

 

[Bill Carson]

SW was a confident speaker so this comment leaves her confused, hence the reponse. Does anyone know when she left for AZ?

I think they said she left on 8/10 (Friday) and flew back on 8/12 (Sunday), but her return flight was delayed, so she didn't get home until 1:48am on Monday (8/13).

 

[ethoma12002]

This was one of my arguments against the kids doing it, it was folded way too neatly. Someone claiming to be some sort of expert on kids told me I was wrong. Hahaha, no I’m not.

I guess if it was folded up in the box and they just took it out and unfolded it once. It actually looks like they never even used it before.

 

[pocketaccent]

This video more than any other convinced me it is a nervous smile and he doesn’t know he’s doing it.

Why do you think he was so nervous?

 

[SuperTmo]

Just to re-iterate, I'm not a CW supporter and I don't want to come across that I believe his story or that I'm "rooting" for him. I also don't want people to think I'm blaming the victim. Me saying that she was brainwashed by the MLM scheme isn't blaming the victim at all. It's a general consensus here that MLM will not make you rich and its a sort of cult. Does spending too much money mean you deserve death? No. Could it have been a motivating factor in the murder? Yes. I'm just stating my opinion.

She was most definitely sucked in deep to the MLM. The thing about them is that for a few they work well as a source of revenue but for most they just get sucked in. She seemed to do fine. But he sold the stuff and got a free car payment too, so I can’t imagine he would kill over it. I mean, maybe he was jealous of her sales? That is the extent I can see it being a factor.

 

[Deleted member 117120]

The sloppiness of it all lacks premeditation/planned.

CW was sloppy because he ran out of time due to the unplanned flight delay. CW probably already killed the girls and had no other option but to continue with the original plan albeit in a time constraint hence the sloppiness. Having a sloppy crime/crime scene doesn't mean it wasn't premeditated or planned.

 

[Bill Carson]

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I don't know, I think they show genuine remorse and grief.

But a word of caution, since you are a newbie: there's no relevant reason to question their character, so you shouldn't make observations like this.

 

[Deleted member 229213]

Is Crime HLN classed as msm Juniper?

I would assume if its on my television that it would be considered mainstream media. Mods? If its on the tele is it MSM?
I am not sleuthing about it I am just letting all the kind folks on here know that its on.

 

[DAdvocate]

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As you can see in this video, he smiles too. I think we’re putting too much into CW smile.

 

[Deleted member 229213]

I would assume if its on my television that it would be considered mainstream media. Mods? If its on the tele is it MSM?
I am not sleuthing about it I am just letting all the kind folks on here know that its on.

And I am not really certain what "crime HLN" is on my tele it is CNN HLN...

 

[SuziQ]

HLN is mainstream

 

[SN76]

That pic makes me think of the possibility of 'roid rage.

We have heard lots about roids...but personally, having worked in a gym and being heavily involved in the fitness industry..I do not believe he took steroids. The Thrive patches plus his regular running have taken off the extra weight..and he has just buffed up using freeweights IMO....instead roid users, have muscle upon muscle.

I just don't see evidence of steroid usage MOO....

 

[ethoma12002]

You know, HLN says that the doll on the couch pic is the last pic she posted on Facebook on August 9 and she was dead by August 13. Do you think someone (CW) took the others down? She posted constantly, but no posts from the convention or airport or just regular stuff until she got home?

 

[DAdvocate]

Why do you think he was so nervous?

Because he is lying. He knows what happen in the house.

 

[SuperTmo]

This has bothered me because of the motion for the defense also wanted their own experts for Firearms, bullets and casings.
Along with their own 'expert ' on the DNA of their necks.

Eww gross. This makes me think that he had the forethought to make her get on her hands and knees or bend over with her hands on the bed to make it look like she was in the position to be strangling a child. Perhaps he made her be over the child so that her blood would be on the baby, making it look all the more realistic.

I won’t put anything past this guy.

 

[cottonweaver]

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The film has an unusual amateur quality - the crickets sound etc.

I think they're in an awkward position and they are uncomfortable.
Imagine this was you, the Watts had been your close friends until a few days before( the couple shared holidays and Amanda was a 12K thriver, the husband ran with CW) and you now had to talk about your friends' deaths, their marriage & about one of them as a killer & justify why you'd defended them earlier. It wouldn't be easy to do that on TV