Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW GUILTY* #46

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He's going to kill himself. That's my belief. The minute he can he will. This kind of guy won't be able to stand hearing what's said about him and to him at sentencing. He will be so destroyed by that he won't be able to go on.

I think he's going to pull an Aaron Hernández or Ariel Castro after sentencing.

And he has nothing but prison to look forward to with no hope of getting out.

I say he takes himself out at the earliest possible opportunity.

I hope they watch him closely because he deserves to serve his sentence. Every last bit of it.
 
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Found a beautiful tribute video. Wow. :(
Sorry if someone already posted it. We are at 46 threads.
The person that made the video says,

"I read a FB comment from Frankie Rzucek who is the brother of Shanann Watts and the uncle of Bella, CeCe and unborn child Nico. In the comment he wrote that he didn't know how to make a video and attached some photos".


Thank you whisper.:):):)
This brings tears to my eyes.
The poor family, losing their beautiful girls.
Hope somehow, the rest of this family will find peace and happiness in the remainder of their lives.

Karma is working, and CW is aware of this big time.
 
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I've been trying to read all the posts on here since the guilty plea, and I haven't yet caught up.

But I just want to say I believe CW has pled because he is guilty and a trial will have enough evidence that he wouldn't be found innocent on any charges or have any charges reduced. I am relieved for the family of Shanann that they won't have to face sullying of her character in CW's attempts to worm out of what he did.

I'm glad that the relatives and friends of Shanann and the children don't have to worry about their killer going free. They won't have to sit through trial and possible retrials.

But, as the DA said, this plea doesn't bring back the dead. It doesn't take away the pain. It doesn't save the parents who have children who were friends with Bella and Celeste from having to find a way to explain that their children won't play with the Watts girls any more, and the struggle of how to tell them what happened .... and if not now, one day those children learning Bella and Celeste were murdered by their own daddy. We know the names of the victims, but there are so many others out there who suffer from the after-effects of murder.

Then you have all the LE and related staff who worked so hard, initially taking CW at his word that the family had 'vanished', and then having to retrieve and autopsy the bodies that CW 'hid' so that he could lie his face off to media, to his family and friends, and pretend he had "no inclination" as to where they might be or what happened to them. How long would he have kept up that lie if it wasn't for the locked house and the neighbor's camera pointing at the front door and garage door to show that Shanann and the girls didn't walk out there alive?

And then there are the 46 threads, and counting, here with so many thoughtful, analytical, passionate and compassionate posts! I'm glad I no longer follow these cases alone and have access to all your thoughts and the ability to bounce ideas back and forth with people who aren't just 'headline skimmers'.

And thanks to all the mods for their extra hard work through these threads!

Great post :D
 
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Sorry to reply so late, but yes, I can definitely see the media hounding the AP, as well as her coworkers, for any information they can get. Then they will try to make a big story out of it. But I hope this doesn't happen. I would think this person has been through alot, as well as her family. She will probably never consider having an affair again. But I wouldn't be surprised if CW led her to believe he was already seperated and planned to continue a serious relationship with her. It may very well have played a part in his decision to go through with the murder. Jmo

Very true. Often men in affairs will paint a picture of a loveless/sexless marriage when that is entirely untrue IMO
 
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I've been trying to read all the posts on here since the guilty plea, and I haven't yet caught up.

But I just want to say I believe CW has pled because he is guilty and a trial will have enough evidence that he wouldn't be found innocent on any charges or have any charges reduced. I am relieved for the family of Shanann that they won't have to face sullying of her character in CW's attempts to worm out of what he did.

I'm glad that the relatives and friends of Shanann and the children don't have to worry about their killer going free. They won't have to sit through trial and possible retrials.

But, as the DA said, this plea doesn't bring back the dead. It doesn't take away the pain. It doesn't save the parents who have children who were friends with Bella and Celeste from having to find a way to explain that their children won't play with the Watts girls any more, and the struggle of how to tell them what happened .... and if not now, one day those children learning Bella and Celeste were murdered by their own daddy. We know the names of the victims, but there are so many others out there who suffer from the after-effects of murder.

Then you have all the LE and related staff who worked so hard, initially taking CW at his word that the family had 'vanished', and then having to retrieve and autopsy the bodies that CW 'hid' so that he could lie his face off to media, to his family and friends, and pretend he had "no inclination" as to where they might be or what happened to them. How long would he have kept up that lie if it wasn't for the locked house and the neighbor's camera pointing at the front door and garage door to show that Shanann and the girls didn't walk out there alive?

And then there are the 46 threads, and counting, here with so many thoughtful, analytical, passionate and compassionate posts! I'm glad I no longer follow these cases alone and have access to all your thoughts and the ability to bounce ideas back and forth with people who aren't just 'headline skimmers'.

And thanks to all the mods for their extra hard work through these threads!

Profound and beautiful post.
 
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No reports by the source close to CW that he yelled because he was angry at himself, and that he cried because he ended the lives of SW, Nico, Bella and Celeste. He cried because he had to acknowledge his life was over. Poor muffin.

He apparently values life - his own life, that is. He didn't want to put his own life at risk of possibly facing the death penalty.

I believe this is his reason for pleading guilty.
CW values his own life, unlike those of anyone else.
He has proven this, with premeditation, planning and murdering his loving family so he can lead the life he wants.

Too bad mate, you failed forever.
Now your own life is at risk.
 
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I don't think that he sexually abused CeCe and Bella because of the strong stance that the prosecutor has taken. He refused the initial plea request from CW because it did not include pleading guilty to every single charge, as charged.

I think if the autopsies showed evidence of that, it would have been added to the charges against him and the prosecutor in no way would have left that out. jmo
 
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In facing photo, does the left side of CW face look paralyzed, and his eye drooping?
I think it's just angle and shadow? MOO
 
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Are

Are you able to comment now on why Bella changed school? That little girl looked so haunted by something
Eager to answer but want to wait until after sentencing hearing. 11/19 (when the court formally accepts the plea deal and investigation is officially closed).
 
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In facing photo, does the left side of CW face look paralyzed, and his eye drooping?

Not to me. It's the angle perhaps but his eyes weren't always that symmetrical, I think.

He just looks like a dead-souled, psychopathic murderer to me, eager to be able to stop the charade of happy daddy and family man.
 
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With all the "thank yous" going around today I just wanted to say that while I often find myself losing faith in humanity, every once in a while you find this bright little light that boosts that faith again. I think YOU are one of those lights and many of us are appreciative for the insight you've provided and your staunch support of your friend. Frankly, I don't know how you've been able to hang around and read a lot of this. I know from personal experience what a great person you are and lots of us have really appreciated the time you've taken to share your information and to answer questions that help present Shanann in the light in which she truly deserves to be seen. And now, because I can't insert a heart, you get a pink smiley. :p
Damn it! You just made me cry.
 
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Ok.... this website is starting to get to me. Working on a paper and literally started to type "jmo" and the end of my sentence.... :)o_O;) haha
 
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Are we allowed to talk about murder rap sesh episode and inside information they have?
Hi Violet101,

I am going to have to say no to the podcast. No offense to the women hosting the podcast but it contains rumors and statements that cannot be backed up with any sort of evidence.

Some of the things said on the podcast would cause this thread to explode into a fireball of anger like never before on Websleuths.

Again, I am not trying to disrespect the hosts but it is not a show for Websleuths.

Tricia
 
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Not to me. It's the angle perhaps but his eyes weren't always that symmetrical, I think.

He just looks like a dead-souled, psychopathic murderer to me, eager to be able to stop the charade of happy daddy and family man.

I completely agree. He is clearly over it all.
 
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