GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #57

[Inthedetails]

From memory I think it was around 5pm he texted the coworker. I think that is also around the same time that he arrived home from the party.

So, these are the events of Sunday to fit in place - can anyone put them in the right order, with times? I'm now thinking the girls might have been smothered earlier than I previously thought, perhaps right after the party??

5pm'ish arrive home from birthday party. Changed girls into PJs? (Why bother changing them if you know you're going to kill them soon? I don't think he planned to blame SW at this point for their murder. If he had a plan, I think it was "SW ran away.")

5pm'ish CW texts co-workers that he'll go to the specific worksite in the morning. Unusual to volunteer for that.

Dinner for girls or not? (I'm confused on this point)

Grandpa wants to Skype but CW doesn't do it?

SW asks for a photo of the girls (is that right??)

CW grills in the backyard without the girls.

Any texts we need to fit in here?

The timeline from the birthday party to the co-workers arriving on the site is still murky for me. Trying to piece it together.

jmo

 

[Tortoise]

I was so taken by the two women in his life both saying they were scared and did not recognize him anymore.

Shan'ann in a text to her friend, and NK after seeing his soulless eyes during the porch interviews.

Both had caught a glimpse of the man beneath the mask.

 

[x_files]

Anyone who googles "how to react when someone says they love you", well too late for that person given that he's already pushing 35 years on the planet. I know that's not exactly what he googled, but it was something equally ridiculous.

This is a truly bizarre thing to search.

 

[x_files]

She might release a book, but I don't think it would contain anything we don't already know. So I'm not interested in that at all. At this point, it would be a snooze fest of a book since everything is in the discovery documents.

However, as I mentioned in an earlier thread, I really would like CW's parents and sister to sit down with Dr. Phil. I know they would get paid, but I'd tune in for that interview.

Boycott it or read it at a library. I refuse to give anyone money profiting off the murder of innocents.

 

[gitana1]

I believe one of the queries was along the lines of "what does it feel like to fall in love". He's empty, a complete shell of a being.

It was what does it feel li

thanks guys for all this great info.
scdiv I think that is a good thought .he was prepping food for the work week.

still wondering about the facetime with nan and pop.

What time was the FaceTime and what time did he text Shanann that's bella just got back in bed?

 

[Ronso]

Sorry, which was a family member who took the heat off? Trying to follow but don't know what prior post was in reference to. Is it about the attempts to point the finger at Shanann? By using the internet?

If you read the discovery where it references the nut incident, it states who was present. Trinket was present at the nut incident per her own posts. So it's easy to deduce who Trinket is.

 

[Inthedetails]

Was he working at that particular worksite on Friday? When was the last time he was there?

I just keep wondering if he had that gravesite prepared in some way - that he had it ready for when he needed to use it.

jmo

 

[Not a Belle]

Just a super friendly contradiction to your post... don't know how to bold....sorry

But IMO.... we do not "teach women to stand up and not be a doormat" We simply do not. It's not a comfortable or acceptable thing to do unfortunately.

Thank G Shannan did anyway. I wish it could have saved her life, but at least it put him behind bars forever. jmo

I think it depends on who we mean by “we.” I know many women who have been taught to be assertive. Shanann certainly learned it. I know it varies by person and by situation, but I don’t see “doormat” as a valid assumption to make.

 

[NuttMegg]

weighed 225 and was 5'10"

Shan'ann weighed 148 and was 5'5".
Pregnant, tired, sick, arriving home late from a work trip, needing to get up in just a few hours, attacked by someone who weighed 77 pounds more than she, and had 5" in height over her.

Cece, at 37 lbs, overpowered and murdered by a "man" who weighed 188 lbs more than this 3 year old.

Bella, at 40 lbs, overpowered and annihilated by a male who weighed 185 lbs more than she.

Both kids were just over 3' tall, Bella at 3'6", Cece at 3'1"

I just bought a sack of dog chow that weighs more than either child.

 

[NuttMegg]

If you read the discovery where it references the nut incident, it states who was present. Trinket was present at the nut incident per her own posts. So it's easy to deduce who Trinket is.

Not to mention being fixated on 8 year old incidents with skater outfits.

 

[sun16]

Pages 2088-2089 — there were A LOT of photos of NK that Chris had and put imto the secret calculator.

 

[sun16]

Page 2091 - SW’s mother called Watts 12 times. Wow. Something was up.

 

[castilloisno1]

sorry to bother you all..where is an easy place that I can find the discovery pages..I forgot to bookmark it..TIA

 

[sun16]

God, these docs are unbelievable. The detail from July and August when Watts was alone in CO.....it’s like if you left your 20-something son alone at the house, and he just went nuts with partying and etc. I’m dumbfounded. So thankful I am not married to someone who is NUTS.

 

[Jax49]

sorry to bother you all..where is an easy place that I can find the discovery pages..I forgot to bookmark it..TIA

18CR2003-Discovery-REDACTED-FINAL.pdf

 

[Inthedetails]

sorry to bother you all..where is an easy place that I can find the discovery pages..I forgot to bookmark it..TIA

I've been using this link: 18CR2003-Discovery-REDACTED-FINAL.pdf

 

[MsBetsy]

If you read the discovery where it references the nut incident, it states who was present. Trinket was present at the nut incident per her own posts. So it's easy to deduce who Trinket is.

It was the vague, indirect, and misleading one liners that convinced me. It had become a familiar pattern. Imo

 

[Inthedetails]

Next time we get a big doc dump in a case, we should split up the task of reading it. This one is loooooooong!

 

[Ronso]

Not to mention being fixated on 8 year old incidents with skater outfits.

The pro-CW posts, demonizing SW, and the screenname were the giveaways for me. I knew who it was within a couple of posts.

 

[MsBetsy]

Page 2091 - SW’s mother called Watts 12 times. Wow. Something was up.

Does it say the date? Was it during the time she was on her business trip and they were talking about his not feeling anything for her anymore or not wanting the baby?