GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #58

[MassGuy]

Do you know where. I thought I read all the interviews, I must have missed it.

Page 580 in discovery.

Attached is a write-up of a phone call from an Anadarko security manager who informed the investigator of emails indicating a relationship between NK and CW.

 

[NuttMegg]

What time did NK contact LE?

Pg 513 (Discovery page 580) - Approximately 3 hours before the polygraph was scheduled to begin (8:00 A.M.), I received a phone call from Anadarko Regional Security Manager, TONY HUSKEY. HUSKEY advised he had reviewed CHRIS’ computer network traffic and it was possible CHRIS had started a relationship with an Anadarko contracted employee. HUSKEY advised he located emails between CHRIS and the contracted employee, who he identified as NICHOL “NIKKI” KESSINGER (Age 30; ). HUSKEY said it appeared a relationship between CHRIS and KESSINGER started around June of 2018.

Pommy do you think that was just a routine look into his network activity at work, or do we know if there was some tip off that came before that to have le ask Huskey to look for a girlfriend at the office? Do you think "network activity" means office PCs? Would work cellphones be on the network?

 

[dixiegirl1035]

What time did NK contact LE?

Pg 513 (Discovery page 580) - Approximately 3 hours before the polygraph was scheduled to begin (8:00 A.M.), I received a phone call from Anadarko Regional Security Manager, TONY HUSKEY. HUSKEY advised he had reviewed CHRIS’ computer network traffic and it was possible CHRIS had started a relationship with an Anadarko contracted employee. HUSKEY advised he located emails between CHRIS and the contracted employee, who he identified as NICHOL “NIKKI” KESSINGER (Age 30; ). HUSKEY said it appeared a relationship between CHRIS and KESSINGER started around June of 2018.

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018, at approximately 11:00 A.M., SA CODER met CHRIS in the lobby of the Fredrick Police Department and escorted him to a private interview room inside the police department.

Thank you! As always you are so wonderful at finding things. I knew the basics, but I would never be able to find it within the documents!

 

[Jennifer17]

I don't have an ounce of like for Cindy and I really believed she damaged their marriage over the long haul. But I was surprised at his Dad's comments in his interview, behavior after nutgate and when CW visited NC and his text the night everyone died (that he better not face time the girls because Bella would probably tell Mom and SW would go ballistic).

I wish I had the page number, but in Sandy Rzucek's interview she describes CW's parents not even letting SW's parents see their grandchildren when Watts were babysitting and the Rzuceks stopped by . It wasn't bedtime but the Watts sent the kids upstairs and wouldn't let the Rzuceks go upstairs. When Sandy asked Cindy about it Sandy says Cindy start screaming like a mad woman. Yes I think Cindy is toxic. I also think Dad is also toxic, in a more subdued, sneakier way. Apple. Tree.

Just as well Ma and Pa Watts found each other instead of inflicting themselves on other families.

 

[tmar]

The big issue for me is the lies told to LE and the attempt to hide things.

On top of being illegal, what's the point? What could she possibly have to hide that compared to two babies in oil tanks?

I personally would be more afraid of getting caught in a lie to an FBI agent than someone finding out I pursued a married man or wanted to try anal sex. No one cares about that stuff in the big picture which in this case is a murdered woman, a murdered 4 year old, a murdered 3 year old, and a murdered 15 week fetus that was very much loved and wanted.

I don't care at all about her moral compass. It's the deceitfulness that that casts a shadow over her entire version of events.

Moo

Imagine if it was your loved one missing, as with CW's Dad FR, and you find out a mistress is lying to FBI.
I know, I would tell all I possibly knew, to help in anyway I can, even if immorally involved as NK was.
Your info, no matter what it may be, may help in the case.

I am so pleased this now has backfired on NK, via the DA's speedy actions in releasing these documents.
Perhaps in the next lot, we find out more details about NK.
The DA also made a comment about NK in his evidence, which certainly brought this to light.

NK possibly thought she was smart to have her Denver interview.
She certainly was not smart, as her lies are now obvious.
Best for her now, is to move far away.

 

[Johnny1181]

She got involved with the wrong guy..thats obvious. She was 30 years old.. she should have known better. She has to pay the consequences...he is a family Anilahator she is a home wrecker. The judge recognized him as more than a fetus. He got 48 extra yrs for murdering that baby. Everyone has to pay the consequences.

What consequences would you like her to pay?

The only home wrecker here imo is Chris Watts. After all, he did dump his babies in crude oil and buried his wife and unborn son Nico in dirt. To the point that they couldn't recognize that they had a baby under the dirt.

Who's the home wrecker again?

jmo

 

[PrimeSuspect]

I read every page.

But so what? She's not guilty of a crime.

Chris Watts strangled his exhausted, pregnant, loving, devoted wife to death. And then threw her in the back seat of his truck. And then buried her under dirt, 8 inches or so, and his unborn son Nico too. So covered in dirt they didn't recognize they had a fetus. Until they washed him.

Chris Watts smothered Bella with his bare hands. He put his man hands over her nose, her mouth. And that baby fought!! We've seen that in the autopsy report. I can't type it. It hurts.

Then he threw her in the back seat. Climbed up those stairs, and dumped her legs first in. Kinda squeezed her in right? Listened to how she sounded when she splashed.

Little CeCe. Eh.... here he goes again! Smothered. Don't even bother with a pillow to hide from them that they're being murdered by their "hero" father. Nope. Just hands on with Chris Watts. Then toss in the backseat... up those stairs... dump.

Yeah.... sorry for the graphics post. But that is what happened.

She did not make that happen. This is who he is at his core.
jmo

CW deserves to be held in 'stocks' on the streets of CO for days on end and humiliation heaped upon him, and be made to look at his accusers! Then, begin his prison sentence, where he has sanctuary from the hell he created for Shanann's family and friends! A life in prison hiding away is TOO good for him and so is the death penalty!

 

[ReckoningDay]

Sorry if already posted, but I wanted to know what y'all think about whether CW saw the nut incident and the resulting estrangement between SW and his family as advantageous to his plan to murder his family.

From synopsis of with CW's best friend "J" pdf page 644, dp 728,

J said that CHRIS was initially taking SHANANN’s side with the most current fight, but that CINDY then contacted him and told him that CHRIS and SHANANN were going to separate.
CHRIS then told J in text messages that he had seen the true side of SHANANN and was done with her, and didn’t want to be with her anymore. J said that he told CHRIS that he knew this would be a big event in his life and to reach out to him. CHRIS told him that he would, but never did.

When asked what CHRIS meant about seeing the "true side" of SHANANN, J said he didn’t ask. J said that CHRIS’ family has always seen SHANANN as "shady."
J said he never saw it, but all of CHRIS’ family believed that there was something about SHANANN that was bad, and he believed CHRIS had finally seen what his family had been seeing.
.....
J said that CHRIS never specifically told him what was causing him to want to separate from SHANANN, but that he told CHRIS about his conversation with CINDY and what CINDY was saying and CHRIS confirmed that he had seen that side of SHANANN and that he was done.
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So shortly after the nut incident CW was telling his family and friends that he finally saw the light and was leaving SW.
Meanwhile he was telling SW that he wanted to work on their marriage right before he murdered them.
Looks to me like CW was planning to have his family and friends back up his evil idiotic plan that SW was so spiteful about the breakup that she had taken his beloved daughters, never to be seen again.
IMO, the CW capitalized on the nut incident, rather than it being any kind of catalyst to the murders.

Yes he was.painting his wife and the mother of his children in the worst light possible. Premeditation

 

[Johnny1181]

Just as well Ma and Pa Watts found each other instead of inflicting themselves on other families.

Thanks for this....awesome

 

[Soccermom5]

You cannot be sure of what your daughter would do. You are not her.

You are right, I am not her, but I think with the abundant almost excessive amount of videos that SW posted, I do not believe my daughter would want any part of that. SW’s social media presence was not normal..she put too much out there. The video alone of their pregnant test and the textsa saying he was the one that wanted her to get pregnant again should be enough for any self respecting woman to run the other way.

 

[Jennifer17]

What consequences would you like her to pay?

The only home wrecker here imo is Chris Watts. After all, he did dump his babies in crude oil and buried his wife and unborn son Nico in dirt. To the point that they couldn't recognize that they had a baby under the dirt.

Who's the home wrecker again?

jmo

It is always a woman's fault, going right back to Eve the temptress. It is in our genes to blame a woman for every man's 'mistake'.

 

[Seattle1]

Is that in the Discovery documents?

Yes. Anadarko's Mr. Huskey

 

[PommyMommy]

I don't have an ounce of like for Cindy and I really believed she damaged their marriage over the long haul. But I was surprised at his Dad's comments in his interview, behavior after nutgate and when CW visited NC and his text the night everyone died (that he better not face time the girls because Bella would probably tell Mom and SW would go ballistic).

I wish I had the page number, but in Sandy Rzucek's interview she describes CW's parents not even letting SW's parents see their grandchildren when Watts were babysitting and the Rzuceks stopped by . It wasn't bedtime but the Watts sent the kids upstairs and wouldn't let the Rzuceks go upstairs. When Sandy asked Cindy about it Sandy says Cindy start screaming like a mad woman. Yes I think Cindy is toxic. I also think Dad is also toxic, in a more subdued, sneakier way. Apple. Tree.

Pg 1265 (Discovery Page 1403)

 

[Johnny1181]

Don't forget destroying evidence.

This is so true. And you know I respect you. But she is not responsible for this. She's a dumb . He's a cold blooded murder.
jmo

 

[Pi Thoughts]

I thought there was also a search for CW in 2017 making it less likely to be a typo. Am I remembering wrong?

Maybe some of this will be cleared up in the next dump.

Moo

I believe it was me who initially raised the phone data review time line. So I’ve gone back to DP2082 and taken a screen shot.
I do not believe this September 1, 2017 to be a typo as there are 50 pages of phone data review in correct chronological order and time. MOO

 

[Colorado303]

Does anyone else think it’s odd neither SW’s parents nor CW’s parents were aware of their financial strain?

Do we have any actual proof there was financial strain other than people speculating and CW saying they were late on their mortgage and SW had to take money out of his 401K to pay their bills? I only skimmed over the financial stuff in Discovery but seem to recall they had about $10,000 in credit card debt. I know many people w/far more on their cards than that. And I know they were being sued for not paying their homeowner's dues but I don't know if that's because they were in some kind of dispute, waiting for HOA to do something they promised, like fix something.

I'm not saying they weren't in financial trouble, I'm just asking what factual evidence do we have that supports it. To anyone who replies w/info, thank you in advance.

 

[amiless]

Really sick, and no way he didn't also know the lyrics. I was looking around with no luck, it was said that the video for that "Battery" song about killing a family shows oil tanks at the end. Has anyone else run across that?

I'm not 100 % certain, but I do not believe Metallica ever released a video for that song. It is from an album in the mid-80s, and the song 'Battery' was not even released as a single.

You can find a lyric video. And some guy made a homemade video using movie clips from "The Shining."

I feel icky now because I searched for that song.

 

[Soccermom5]

What consequences would you like her to pay?

The only home wrecker here imo is Chris Watts. After all, he did dump his babies in crude oil and buried his wife and unborn son Nico in dirt. To the point that they couldn't recognize that they had a baby under the dirt.

Who's the home wrecker again?

jmo

Her consequences are shame/humiliation/embarrassment.... And it is well deserved.It takes two to tango. he is obviously more at fault but she is not an innocent victim. He is the murderer and home wrecker and she is a home wrecker as well. He definitely isnt the only one. She saw Sw’s social media and didnt care. I bet she will think twice abt sleeping with a married man.

 

[NuttMegg]

What consequences would you like her to pay?

The only home wrecker here imo is Chris Watts. After all, he did dump his babies in crude oil and buried his wife and unborn son Nico in dirt. To the point that they couldn't recognize that they had a baby under the dirt.

Who's the home wrecker again?

jmo

It's only the married person committing adultery. I haven't really joined in too much re NK because about 10 times a day while on this thread I thank my lucky stars that there was no sm or texting when i was doing things that greatly embarrass me even decades later.

 

[Jennifer17]

It's only the married person committing adultery. I haven't really joined in too much re NK because about 10 times a day while on this thread I thank my lucky stars that there was no sm or texting when i was doing things that greatly embarrass me even decades later.

Me too.