GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #59

[KathrynL]

It is amazing how he can sit and lie to the FBI, KNOWING they have his phone records. Does he not understand they can see he sexted her day and night ? How can one man be so intelligent and so stupid, all at the same time?

Telling them he went to the Ball game, naming each friend who went, and it was all a lie. He didn't realize they were going to be called and interviewed?

He is very much like Casey Anthony, walking the homicide detectives down the hallway to her office at Universal....

I like the CA analogy, fits except that he is such a dolt that he got caught almost immediately. Thank heaven for small favors.

 

[chi123]

As far as NK goes:

I believe that she was manipulated by CW.

I don’t believe that she had any clue about what was going to happen.

My frustration with her comes from several things that she did:

She deliberately deleted text messages, going as far as to actually Google the ability of LE to recover them.

She Googled Amber Frey, in an apparent effort to both profit, and explore the viability of her basically becoming a celebrity.

She conducted an interview in which she lied, painting a portrait of herself as a hero.

As we now know from these discovery pages, she was in fact outed by Anandarko and did not come forward herself.

However, Chris Watts is the villain here, not NK.

She’s just not a hero either.

Very well said, you summed up my thoughts better then i can. She's not a murderer and im confident in saying she had no idea the monster that he was or what he was capable of, but her actions after the fact we're just absolutely ridiculous.

I honestly still question whether she would have come forward at all if Anandarko didn't out her to LE. That was great work by the head of security to look into the computer traffic and immediately alert LE that something might be going on.

 

[Allabouttrial]

Does anyone know why a vaginal swab was taken of Celeste during the autopsy? It was going to be compared to CW’s DNA. I don’t want to believe he was molesting her but there had to be a reason. I don’t think one was taken from Bella, but I would have to go back and check.

Yes taken from both. I'm sure in these situations it's probably pretty standard to check for signs of abuse.

 

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[MassGuy]

8,000 Colorado prison inmates have free computer tablets | Daily Mail Online

Officials at the Four Mile Correctional Center (Level II facility) in Cañon City say the pioneering initiative, launched in February, was aimed at lowering aggression and reducing tensions between prison gangs.

I do hope he gets a tablet, but the only thing on there is a slideshow of family pictures.

If not, I hope he drops it on the first day. I’ll bet he’d cry then...

 

[Seattle1]

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[kittycat3]

I mean, Anadarko outed the relationship on Tuesday or Wednesday right? In response to law enforcements inquiry searching for motive.....she didn’t lawyer up, did she? She talked to them willingly and gave them her phone. She lost her job and is now (In)famous.

I think anyone who knowingly enters into an affair has low self esteem and at some level believes all they are worthy of is just that, being the “other” person.

Some statistics say more people in marriages have affairs than those that are faithful.

And I know without a doubt Watts told her lie after lie.

 

[Allabouttrial]

I believe the vaginal swab was opposite from your post: taken from Bella, age 4, and not Celeste, age 3. Reason not stated.

CECE



ETA: Bella

 

[Jennifer17]

I believe the vaginal swab was opposite from your post: taken from Bella, age 4, and not Celeste, age 3. Reason not stated.

They would have taken PV swabs from all of them. Basic procedure in murders of females.

 

[MassGuy]

Does anyone know why a vaginal swab was taken of Celeste during the autopsy? It was going to be compared to CW’s DNA. I don’t want to believe he was molesting her but there had to be a reason. I don’t think one was taken from Bella, but I would have to go back and check.

Vaginal swabs were taken from both children.

Celeste Watts
Page 2004

Bella Watts
Page 2008

 

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[Jennifer17]

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That seems pretty brutal to me.

 

[JEM1975]

But we are sleuthing a MURDER, not an affair!!!! Find another website if that’s what you’d rather discuss.

This unfortunately is an affair that led to murder. Whether NK knew it or not, it happened and she's a part of it. She knew how was married, that has been proven. She was "forthcoming " with LE only when she learned that her butt was on the line.

 

[Jennifer17]

This unfortunately is an affair that led to murder. Whether NK knew it or not, it happened and she's a part of it. She knew how was married, that has been proven. She was "forthcoming " with LE only when she learned that her butt was on the line.

Yes, she had an affair with a married man. She did not kill his family, though. I have no reason at all to defend young women who have affairs with married men, but she made a mistake on the morality scale not on the murdering scale.

 

[jayjay54]

rsbm

could not disagree more
this takes two to tango she is equally accountable for her romance with chris. she knew he was married with kids. I dont think anybody held a gun to her head and andmade her stay in a relationship with him.

she is a huge knowing co-habituating component of the destruction of a marriage that ended in murder.

its fair.
that's without the self serving lies and obstruction of an investigation by deleting evidence.

moo

I really hope she didn't give him an ultimatum (not "murder them" - "divorce immediately" possibly.)

 

[Jennifer17]

I really hope she didn't give him an ultimatum (not "murder them" - "divorce immediately" possibly.)

Was the text he sent to her 'divorce finalised' in the discovery documents?

 

[Gardenista]

The 2017 surgery was explained on SW FB /SM (Sept 2017) and the hardware also detailed in her autopsy report. Info also reported in prior threads.

I may have missed it, but all I saw was her telling people who asked her that she sent them a message.

 

[Allabouttrial]

I may have missed it, but all I saw was her telling people who asked her that she sent them a message.

She had a car accident a few years before her neck surgery. Not sure on the medical diagnostics, but there were problems still associated with it, hence the neck surgery in 2017.

 

[JEM1975]

I mean, Anadarko outed the relationship on Tuesday or Wednesday right? In response to law enforcements inquiry searching for motive.....she didn’t lawyer up, did she? She talked to them willingly and gave them her phone. She lost her job and is now (In)famous.

I think anyone who knowingly enters into an affair has low self esteem and at some level believes all they are worthy of is just that, being the “other” person.

Some statistics say more people in marriages have affairs than those that are faithful.

And I know without a doubt Watts told her lie after lie.

I actually disagree. I think maybe some people who enter into an affair may have low self esteem but honestly my opinion is that they would actually be more confident. Meaning, some people love the thrill of the chase and taking someone's husband can be exciting for some. It's sad that it's like this but it is. NKs comment to pawn Shanann's rings leads me to believe that NK is not just some innocent duped girl who didn't know what she was doing. She knew he was married and in my opinion, there's no way she didn't know Shanann was pregnant! She had her sites on CW for many months. Does this make her responsible for murder? Not unless more evidence comes to light. But it does diminish the Pollyanna status she's trying to portray.

 

[chi123]

I still can't get over CW coldly eating 4 slices of pizza like it was just a normal day immediately after explaining how he killed his wife and describing the splash the oil made when he dropped his dead children in..

He even said, "i feel bad eating your food" He feels bad about eating their pizza, but not about murdering his family in cold blood. Insane.

I hope they'll release the interrogation tapes eventually.