GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #60

[borndem]

Ok, I had never heard of "vocal fry" until right now and googled it. I wanted to say she sounded like a smoker. That would be why.

Edited to add: Google shows about 6 articles on vocal fry in New Zealand media sites in the last twelve hours. I must live under a rock!

Well, like, I've just, like, been to, like, speech school, and I, like, have, like, learned about, like, over-, like, use, of the, like, word "like," and also what is called "up-speech" where the speaker is unsure of her/him self and end her/his declarative statement with an up-rise of the last few words of the sentence. It shows insecurity and, often, immaturity. I was, like, already familiar with those.
I had never heard the term "vocal fry" until just now reading about it, so I went to vocal fry class and learned what that was. I have heard it, and I further learned that using it is not good for your vocal chords, and it is irritating to most people. It is often used to also mask insecurity or a try to sound intellectual or very wealthy. Interesting online teeny-tiny class ala google.
And, like, that's all.

 

[x_files]

That's probably where he got it from. Everything he says he seems to have picked up from the people around him. Imo

So he was echoing or mirroring her. It's possible he thought she wanted him to "dump them" aka "fix it".

 

[skyedaze]

I do think it’s odd that she’s not asking any questions about what happened, how he did it, why he did it, etc. Not one. And she sounds like she think she’s making small talk. Half the time she sounds like CW did when asked about his shirt. MOO

I never believed a word she said. She knew he was married. No need to keep a legit relationship a secret...she knew...she just didn't care. Googled Husband leaves wife for mistress and Man marries mistress. How does a man supposedly already finishing a divorce leave his wife for a mistress if he's gone already? You're only a mistress if you are with a cheater.
She's a liar...she knew.

 

[bonjoviblonde]

Ok, maybe I'm the only one but I do not for one minute believe NK didn't know SW was pregnant. She absolutely knew before SW went missing. IMO.

I'm shocked hearing her interview. I never thought too highly of her but wow. She's a talker and you can tell she's smiling and almost laughing while talking even though she knows her man just murdered his wife and babies. She sounds so cocky and like she's enjoying herself. What in the world? And no, I'm not saying she had anything to do with these murders, but she's lied about so many things, little things and details which makes her very unlikable. She seems very cold to me. JMO.

 

[MassGuy]

It's so clear they thought he was lying about putting them in the tanks.

I really think that had he not confessed, it would have taken them a number of days searching before they opened up those tanks. I have seen those hatches in pictures and I can absolutely see why they thought the girls would not be in there.

They found quite a bit of hair on one of those hatches.

They were already in the ballpark, thanks to that sheet, GPS, and the disturbed ground.

I don’t think it would have taken long for them to figure it out.

 

[ab01]

part of it the way it comes off to me as far as NK interview is that what her and CW were discussing compared to what SW was thinking per her texts. Trying to not judge NK based on what a pathelogical liar CW is.....hard to hear non the less MOO

 

[ZsaZsa]

Her voice is much worse I think. It doesn't match what she looks like. She sounds so much older and I can't think of the right word but sort of nonchalant. I can't imagine her saying the words she texted in her messages to her friend Charlotte about the kind of sex they had. Yucky.

She has a very aggressive air about her. Hardly what you would seek out if trying to escape from a marriage where your spouse was "domineering and bossy".

 

[skyedaze]

He is seeking his overbearing Mother in other women esp. NK!

Yes. And for the CW friend who thought SW was bossy...well, guess she just wasn't bossy enough.

 

[Gingerbread7]

First time she went to their house, she sat in their front living room on the floor. July 4, 2018.
He grilled chix and carrots for lunch.
She literally sounds unconcerned and detached. Unbelievable.

The problem is that she coveted another woman’s life and she did it wantonly. Yes, this is what mistresses of married men do. But she was in the house that Shannon decorated with the man that chose Shannon first. She looked at pictures of the children of Shannon...her things, their things...and then she looked up wedding dresses and searched if her married lover would basically choose her. She coveted Shannon’s life. Did she murder her? No. But that is a kind of evil in its own right and it certainly set terrible events into motion.

Personally, I think it is truly a mental sickness to go into another woman’s house because you are with a married man, who is still living with his wife and look at and touch the life they built as a family and then covet it. It is like a snake slithering under your door. It wasn’t direct. Her moral character is bankrupt.

 

[kiwilaura]

They found quite a bit of hair on one of those hatches.

They were already in the ballpark, thanks to that sheet, GPS, and the disturbed ground.

I don’t think it would have taken long for them to figure it out.

That's true. I forgot about the hair.

 

[Bravo]

Trying my like button again

 

[PommyMommy]

The problem is that she coveted another woman’s life and she did it wantonly. Yes, this is what mistresses of married men do. But she was in the house that Shannon decorated with the man that chose Shannon first. She looked at pictures of the children of Shannon...her things, their things...and then she looked up wedding dresses and searched if her married lover would basically choose her. She coveted Shannon’s life. Did she murder her? No. But that is a kind of evil in its own right and it certainly set terrible events into motion.

Personally, I think it is truly a mental sickness to go into another woman’s house because you are with a married man, who is still living with his wife and look at and touch the life they built as a family and then covet it. It is like a snake slithering under your door. It wasn’t direct. Her moral character is bankrupt.

And CW was just worried about keeping her name out of it. MOO

 

[Gardenista]

The sniffle they said he forced out in the discovery docs is at about 22:10

 

[ZsaZsa]

I'm glad he wasn't, but how the heck was he in these interviews without a lawyer???????? He's describing how he killed Shanann and disposed of all the bodies and the idiot seriously didn't even ask to have a lawyer present? It seems like even the dumbest criminal ever would realize ya better lawyer up at that point. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he just kept telling lies, but I'm just blown away. And that his father didn't even intervene at the point he "confessed." I can't believe he said another word without insisting on an attorney at that point. Unreal.

Thank God he wasn't. I watched Scott Reisch's latest video today. He goes over that too and claims had he been around CW "could have walked, could have got away with it". Says he would have not have bargained for a plea since there is no death penalty in CO, and would have had all the interview tapes thrown out. OMG
I understand the need to be defended, but where is Justice with these people?

 

[MsBetsy]

The sheer disbelief of those investigators that the girls could even be in those tanks. How many times did they ask him and tell him not to waste their time or needlessly put anyone else at risk?

And to think people were saying the disposal method was neither here nor there, since they were “dead already anyway.”

ETA for grammar

I couldn't understand how so many people thought that wasn't a big deal either. It certainly was to LE. Another thing that was insisted upon was that behavior isn't evidence. Yet that was the very first thing noticed by LE.
All the insistance that we need more facts and need to be open to all possibilities when the very thing most important to LE was consistently ignored. Imo

 

[Jessthinkin]

So maybe this affair predates 2017.

...and calling his wife his "significant other" is dismissive, IMO...

 

[cybervampira]

 

[borndem]

delete

 

[ab01]

NK getting harder and harder to listen to halfway through....has no problem bashing shanann

 

[gitana1]

Confession

ETA: With that ticking clock, I would have confessed to anything hours ago. I wonder if there was also a wobbly chair.

Me too!!!!