GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #63

[Check21]

The NK interview is painful. She never grasps what the the detective's questions are getting at. I don't even get the sense she is purposely evading. She's so caught up in her own drama, she doesn't hear a thing. The detective does not care what her friends have figured out. She's so annoying. I'm only a half hour in and I would like that half hour of my life back. I'll have to listen to the rest later.

Ha.. i just watched the whole dang thing and then realized i wasted 2 hours of my life!

 

[CathyinTexas]

This is NK second interview

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I don't see what he saw in her. He had a beautiful talented and devoted wife and he killed her and his children for this person?!

 

[Bravo]

I haven't seen anyone here talking about 'what they want to do to CW in detail' though.

Yes I caught that too. I did see some "mild reference" here and there but no vile detailed posts.

 

[curiouschat]

I just saw this post. It's actually against TOS to link to non-MSM YouTube videos in any case, with a few exceptions. We allow videos from GrayHuze (a WS member), the Brainscratch videos, and most expert analysis videos, such as a defense attorney's professional opinion on a case. We do not allow random people's YouTube channels to be linked or videos to be posted unless you ask @Tricia first for permission to post the video or link.

Jay is 4 Justice or any other podcast from the MRS people is NOT allowed to be linked here. The name of the podcast can be mentioned (as I just did), but no one should link to the podcast page(s) or FB page(s) directly.

Please alert if you see any posts violating these rules. If anyone has further questions about what may or may not be linked or posted in the thread, please contact me or any other moderator or contact @Tricia directly and we will be happy to help.

What does MSM and MRS stand for?

 

[Kankan]

I was talking about the “O” word, but I was afraid to use it here. You can disagree, it’s fine. <modsnip - condescending> I don’t know that NK shared her google searches and innermost thoughts with CW. Do you?

What I’m saying is not everyone that is having really great sex says “I love you” some people are just having really great sex and leave it at that.

<modsnip - reference to snipped portion of post> The fact that she enjoyed the sex and chose to say I love you and chose to google wedding dresses and chose to talk about future houses with him and chose to google marrying mistress paints a picture of her thoughts and the status of their relationship.

 

[mrjitty]

CW really had it all: a beautiful home, a hot wife who still wanted to make whoopie with her husband on a regular basis, cute kids, fun vacations...

This is why i am fascinated by him living in the basement

There is no cladding on the walls. Storage crap everywhere. Dusty as hell (you can see in the officers torch light),

I mean I get sleeping in the spare room and all.

But when he has such a big house, why sleep down there?

 

[MsBetsy]

The pink and white thing is definitely vibrator, I have the same kind but in another color, but the beads look like a simple paparazzi necklace. I wouldn't be able to tell if they truly were anal beads unless I could see the loop end. That doesn't mean that they weren't using a necklace for pleasure, though.

And if they were..good for them! A healthy sex life is important for a healthy marriage. CW really had it all: a beautiful home, a hot wife who still wanted to make whoopie with her husband on a regular basis, cute kids, fun vacations...

What a moron.

Wow. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Layla123]

Ok, that makes SO much more sense. I think I should have had another cup of coffee before my first reply. Sorry if I misunderstood- you are totally on the mark with this one. They actually believe not only their own lies, but each other's as well.

Well, I think it was Jennifer who said she thinks they know they are lying. Could be. I don’t know which one is worse. Scary people those Watts are.

 

[violet101]

Watched the rest of NK’s 2nd interview. Only 1 time did she really talk about the kids and how they are gone. It was the thing where she said “Whyyyyy...what was he thinking would happen”. Every other thing was poor me.

2 kids and a woman are dead and she only is worried about getting a job, getting therapy for herself, changing her name, and people finding out about her.

Maybe she acted differently off camera, but how can she not cry about those poor babies.

 

[SaguaroSpirit]

This is why i am fascinated by him living in the basement

There is no cladding on the walls. Storage crap everywhere. Dusty as hell (you can see in the officers torch light),

I mean I get sleeping in the spare room and all.

But when he has such a big house, why sleep down there?

It was his "man" cave?

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I don't see what he saw in her. He had a beautiful talented and devoted wife and he killed her and his children for this person?!

They are two peas in a pod.

 

[Agatha93]

I also had a physical response to those images, i started shaking. So much so that I tracked it down and it turned out to be a trailer for a tv program called American Horror Story. I have been freaking out about this eerie coincidence ever since; maybe I need to take a break from this case.

I wonder if it was running on local stations the week before or that weekend. It might have actually given CW some ideas when he was formulating his plan on Friday. Shudder.....

 

[erik28]

Boy NK's attitude and talk, talk, talk sure changed when the detective left and the victim's advocate came in to talk to her. Almost a completely different person.

I cannot say that NK is lying about everything all the time. There are many documented places where she has contradicted herself.

I've had personal experience with a young person who had committed graphically violent cyber-bullying and I had to follow up on the actions, learn the truth, talk to parents and professionals, etc. That young person behaved almost exactly the same way. Very talkative and even cheerful when they were able to control the conversation about the offenses (minimizing, omitting, implicating others), then sullen and nearly stonewall silent in the presence of a mental healthcare worker who could actually help them with their problems.

I had the evidence of the graphically violent texts, but it is not the kind of situation where I could confront the young person in the presence of professionals. It seemed to be the same way with investigators and NK. IMO, because NK was not considered a suspect, I never heard them follow up on her contradictions much. Such as saying, "we know you sent this graphic image at the same time you are telling us you told CW to work on his marriage." Some confrontations we just never get to see. I think it was in their best interest to keep her talking.

 

[MsBetsy]

Oh, I think they lie, but more shocking to me is I think they believe their lies. That’s really messed up.

That's what shows one to be a pathological liar. They lie so incessantly eventually it becomes truth in their minds. It's astonishing.

 

[mrjitty]

It was his "man" cave?

yeah maybe - but it just seems really creepy

Like he not only moved to the sofa, but basically moved right out of the family already

 

[BeanieBod]

What MSM reported FEDERAL?

One source was Denver7 last night but I recall another one saying Federal as though it was an actual fact. Chris Watts transferred from Colorado to an out of state prison, sources say

 

[TrifleMars]

My husband and I did too, on our very first date he asked me what I wanted out of life. I was 25 didn’t play games and told him I saw myself staying home raising kids. The difference is neither one of us was married or had a side piece. You are not sincere when you tell your married boyfriend to work on his marriage and send him nude pics at the same time. Those nude pics were an effort to keep him from working on his marriage and to be able to claim ownership of him in the future.

Or maybe they were sent because she knew they turned him on?

 

[x_files]

Anyone else thinks CW's will start talking soon. If he thinks NK dumped him and won't visit/write he'll start talking.

 

[Thepoet]

I don’t want to judge her. She’s single, she’s thirty, she doesn’t have many responsibilities, she has people around her who love and protect her. She has a good relationship with her father. She freely expresses her sexuality. I see her as another victim of CW. He had no business getting involved with her. He lied, and lied, and lied to her. She lost her job, and her life is in shambles, thanks to CW.

Yes, she is a victim of CW! She is also a victim of her own behavior, lies, and bad decisions. I don't judge her, but do feel she has some responsibility! NK is NOT a blythe spirit!

 

[Tricia]

Really People? SEX TOYS? WOW. Here we have a breaking story with a verified member appearing on HLN and says that it may be the STAFF wanting to hurt Chris as well as the prisoners and the first post I see is about a vibrator. Thread is closing because it is too long and too weird at the moment.