GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #64

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I hope it's Waupun, built in the 1850's.
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MOO
Years ago, I did business with a company in Waupon and was talking with the company president, over the phone, when a riot broke out at the prison and I could actually hear the discord!
 
  • #923
Ksmallz on youtube rn. Sorry if not allowed.../
 
  • #924
He seemed just as nervous when it dawned on him that the camera would show SW never left the house and no car came to break in or pick her up. And idiot forgot that he was supposed to be looking at the screen for those things. Not just hung up on his explanation for what he was doing. The neighbor in the extended version of the Radar video picked up on that right away.


And it was SO obvious he had the ring in his pocket and went to plant it on the nightstand in order to "find it." There was no other reason for him to go in that room. He was touching his pocket then starts to leave to go toward the bedroom. The policeman started to talk to him about something and it looks like he touched his pocket again. Then as soon as he answered the policeman, he hurried back toward the bedroom again and just happened to come out with the ring. Suuuuure.

And I would contend he took Shannon’s ring off of her finger at the burial site. Partly so as to avoid early identification if she was found.
 
  • #925
CW's days are becoming darker and darker. ... Sleep well CW.

I sometimes think about what he must think about during all the time he has in prison. Lying in bed... he wakes up at 2 a.m., unable to get back to sleep. What does he think about lying there in the middle of the night? How dramatically his life has changed and has become worthless? The sounds of his dying family that he can't get out of his mind? Unsuccessful at trying NOT to think about those poor darling babies?

Well-deserved torture...

Dave
 
  • #926
The way he was looking at CW , it looked like he wanted to punch him in the face.
I personally wish CW no harm, but if he grabs someone by the throat in prison, he will be punched repeatedly in the face, among other things!
 
  • #927
I sometimes think about what he must think about during all the time he has in prison. Lying in bed... he wakes up at 2 a.m., unable to get back to sleep. What does he think about lying there in the middle of the night? How dramatically his life has changed and has become worthless? The sounds of his dying family that he can't get out of his mind? Unsuccessful at trying NOT to think about those poor darling babies?

Well-deserved torture...

Dave
Well said, I hope so. Do you think he has any idea how many people hate and revile him?
 
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I personally wish CW no harm, but if he grabs someone by the throat in prison, he will be punched repeatedly in the face, among other things!
Somehow I can't imagine CW doing that to anyone not sleeping and not significantly physically weaker than he is. Such a coward! MOO
 
  • #930
Aug 9, Thursday is the day he decided to kill his family IMO.

On this day, he sent the creepy doll photo to Shanann, deleted his Facebook acct, contacted his co-worker to meet next day so he could get a feel for the work schedule for coming Monday.

He sent the photo then deleted his FB account? wow...
 
  • #931
He didn't love her no more. Which seems to me he is, saying 'that is ok'

Like he justified he was done with her and needed to be thrown away like trash. RW's pisses me off.
 
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I personally wish CW no harm, but if he grabs someone by the throat in prison, he will be punched repeatedly in the face, among other things!
Oh dear... I bet he wouldn’t even have the guts to fight back either.
 
  • #934
CW's days are becoming darker and darker. Short of perpetual isolation,, they can't protect him. Even with perpetual isolation, if a guard doesn't pay attention for a few minutes, in a hallway, a shower, etc.; it's over! MacDonald was attacked, Dahner was beaten to death, Jared Fogel (Subway spokesman/pedophile) was beaten, and Manson was set on fire. There are no friends in prison! CW is a target because of his "celebrity" and the heinous crimes he's committed. Lots of prisoners would like to famous for killing a celebrity FA, lots of prisoners, and guards, are fathers, and lots are just crazy! The belly of the beast, and CW is at home there now! I believe he's terrified (he's a coward) and confused about what to do (no Mommy or Daddy, no SW, no NK!) Guards, thugs, wackos, and predators are now his support group! Sleep well CW.
The chameleon he is, he will probably study the badasses and try to mimic their brocabulary. If he‘s lucky, one of them will protect him and take his food, commissary or other services as payment. In other words, he will be someone’s slave aka prison punk.
 
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And, we all know, it’s normal for the perp to lie and deny. Heck, very few ‘fess up. They must be thinking they have a half assed chance of getting away with their crime. CW had a big prob with the doors locked from the inside. That was a revelation. Oops!!!
NA was on Inside Edition this evening.
If you take into consideration that CW was in survival mode during his porch interviews, they make sense in a very sick way. I couldn’t have done it, I would have cracked. He playacted out the role of a grieving father and husband, but he got the length of time of how one would act after they lost their family wrong. He acted how one might act if they’d had some time to heal and process their loss, not one who was first experiencing their loss during the moment it was happening. He showed no anxiety, no fear, or desperation to get his family back home. He was cool, calm, and in control. That’s why no one believed him. But he was too stupid to figure that out. Instead, he told a friend he shouldn’t have done the interviews.
 
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The thing is though, IMO, that is a very simplified explanation for what he wanted to achieve but it doesn't begin to explain why he chose this route over another, or how a human father could detach or never form attachment in the first place. I think these kinds of cold-blooded plotted murders that leave the families and friends stunned in disbelief need more explanation than the standard motives of sex or money. Those things don't cause one to be able to kill the children you bathed, fed and kissed goodnight only a few hours earlier. That is why we need to be able to look at the creation of the monster without being criticized for blaming the parents or the family dynamics.

It was so much more than the affair - that was like a mere pinprick in this case - IMO. Family finances too. That doesn't cause people to kill children they love, and stuff their bodies into trash bags and oil tanks. I think the answer is they are removed from already - or have the ability to remove themselves with a triggering event from - feelings of love and horror. They can flip a switch inside.

There is only one person that I would say he does have a feeling that might resemble love for and that is his dad. Even that might not be love in the accepted sense, but a feeling of responsibility towards ensuring his father is maintained. Maintained is the closest I can get to describing it, as opposed to being destroyed. Perhaps he, CW, was annihilated as a child and his father's annihilation by his mother (and others, including Shanann rejecting RW after nutgate) was an ongoing struggle that had to be prevented. I don't know, I'm going off my feelings and not education in the matter. I feel nutgate was more instrumental in what happened than any of us realize. That was the dagger he talked of. Maybe he turned the dagger around on the family that rejected his father. Maybe he wanted to protect his dad, psychologically and not even knowingly. I said before I think that was the turning point and he demonized them all following that incident, already having the experience of being able to break attachments - as he did long ago with his mother. Nutgate happened in Shanann's second week away, not the last week that CW went out there.
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But it really doesn't show anything except him backing the truck up. The only thing I see him putting in it is the gas can. It seems odd that he would be doing all that but it shouldn't make him more nervous than LE and SW's friend walking all around the house. He acts soooo strange when they find the phone. Not startled, not so worried that he 'thinks' something has happened to her, just casually scrolling thru her phone. How odd.
I think the reason it makes him so nervous is because he knew exactly what he was doing just hours earlier and now they are standing around watching him in the video. The camera actually caught him as he was loading the bodies of his wife and children into the truck. He knows exactly what it will show next after he put the gas can in even though he tried to crouch down and hide. Knowing how the neighbor kept talking about it, he was probably terrified he was going to say, "Chris, what is that your dragging? How come you went back and fourth THREE times? Why are you crouching down there?!" Notice how Chris hesitated and looked back before he went out the door when the neighbor looked at the officer and said, " He's not acting right at all." Then rolls his eyes and rocks back and forth crossing his arms imitating Chris.
 
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Well said, I hope so. Do you think he has any idea how many people hate and revile him?

Oh yes I think so. Things most likely have been said to him and most prisons let them read newspapers,,,he knows.
 
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The chameleon he is, he will probably study the badasses and try to mimic their brocabulary. If he‘s lucky, one of them will protect him and take his food, commissary or other services as payment. In other words, he will be someone’s slave aka prison punk.

That is what I am thinking and he will be a big Bubba and the one in charge. He will take all his goodies and whatever else CW will have. CW will be his little girlie.

P.S. I have to edit to ad that is if no one offs him first.
 
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Ksmallz on youtube rn. Sorry if not allowed.../

Just watched her video and slowed down the footage myself and at the mark she claims (53 seconds) where she says that someone else is there, all I see is Chris and he does have on white shoes & looks like a black shirt with the logo on the back... so I don't know what she is seeing besides him unless she is watching a different video at that time mark? Btw first time posting here, hi everyone.
 
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