GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #64

[Nikynoo]

Nope. Although I do recall the Watts family making statements to that effect during their vile attempts to destroy Shanann.

Its also mentioned by several witnesses in the discovery document in relation to SW. However, I am wondering whether it was CW who was OCD or had OCD tendancies?

 

[Mellowmelly]

No, that is what MJ stated in his statement. The whole sentence wasn't quoted in the previous post.

My apologies, I interpreted your words wrong, how could anyone think those two monsters are sweet hearts ! Lol

 

[Layla123]

I think she’s a basket case and been so all her life. I don’t “hate” her, I don’t know her. I do think she was wrong to become so involved with a married man, to be in the marital home, driving the wife’s car and so forth.
I did start disliking her after learning of her internet searches.
As far as the publicity, she apparently wanted a book deal. But she shouldn’t have much to reveal. I guess an editor could compile her texts and police interviews. What more is there? If she lies or sensationalizes, I think the cops might come knocking again.
This case will soon die down, another will capture the media’s attention. No one will care about NK. She will move on, there’s another man waiting, I’m certain. Hopefully, he’s single.

I’m not so certain she has plans to write a book because at the same time she was googling Amber Frey, she was doing everything she could to escape and hide away from the media. I don’t think she knows what she wants.

 

[Nikynoo]

That doesn’t prove that he took any initiative.

and it does not disprove it either.

 

[scapa]

BBM. I thought that it was NK that he complained about that to.

I can't give you a time-stamp, and he may have also said it to NK, but it's in the Hawaii video I just listened to, reported to the BFF by SW as a recap of a convo between her and CW (feel like I need a diagram to keep track).

 

[Nikynoo]

My apologies, I interpreted your words wrong, how could anyone think those two monsters are sweet hearts ! Lol

not my words, but as quoted from the discovery document.

 

[PommyMommy]

Come on. . One can be mature at 30 without having kids or a spouse. She had an apt, truck, supported herself, had A job. That’s an average mature adult.

She made a dumb mistake picking an evil married man. She made a dumber mistake by not being honest with LE. She has to live with this shame and hopefully regret for the rest of her life.

I’m no fan of NK and wouldn’t want to befriend her. But I don’t think she should be considered immature due to her marital status.

I agree with everything you've said and I would like to add something. NK did not just make a mistake. She made a choice. Her choice was morally wrong. MOO

 

[molly1255]

And even if she did have the "control" to decorate or make a lot of their decisions...good. CW clearly had trouble adulting on his own.

I agree. I'm sure Shanann did all the decorating, made a lot of the decisions and also had to do the heavy lifting because she had no other choice but to do it because he's not a real adult man.

When he took matters into his own hands - look at the disaster. I imagine Shanann saw signs of his short-comings in terms of him not being a real adult man, and I think she overcompensated for him, but was very careful to build up his ego and make him feel like he was something very special. JMO.

 

[mtnlites]

do you need a script for it? and what would that dosage indicate pain wise?

VERY difficult to get a script for it, since it is scheduled. No refills, you have to go back to doc to get a new script. Usually for post-op pain or for chronic pain patients like myself. My condition is progressive and has no cure. We simply try to make me comfortable. Average lifespan is 42 years and some of these short-lasting pain meds are more helpful than the extended relief. In my case, Hospice comes out once a week for pallaitive care. It's a serious script, but one that could be leftover from major surgery. I had it after neck fusion and brain surgery. 30mg is the highest dose. Most people start at 5mg.

 

[Tortoise]

Per NK, he planned to have an apartment large enough to accommodate the kids.

rsbm

Yet he dropped his interest in apartments by the Saturday before the murders. She thinks he lied to her about looking for an apartment, per her 2nd interview.

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

Jersey.
Doesn't this sound sus?
Why would there be a search for the high dosage of Oxycodone?
Could there possibly be a thought/plan/idea to use this, as a means for murder???
MOO.

Or suicide. Most definitely strange in my book. And I thought they could recover deleted things, at least on computers. Maybe the phone OSs are different.

 

[BrownRice]

I agree with everything you've said but I would like to add something. NK did not just make a mistake. She made a choice. Her choice was morally wrong. MOO

Yes. Choice is a better word than mistake. Thank you!

 

[Nikynoo]

VERY difficult to get a script for it, since it is scheduled. No refills, you have to go hack to doc to get a new script. Usually for post-op pain or for chronic pain patients like myself. My condition is progressive and has no cure. We simply try to make me comfortable. Average lifespan is 42 years and some of these short-lasting pain meds are more helpful than the extended relief. In my case, Hospice fomes out once a week for pallaitive care. It's a serious script, but one that could be leftover from major surgery. I had it after neck fusion and brain surgery. 30mg is the highest dose. Most people start at 5mg.

Thank you, very informative. So, would 80mg be a fatal dose? and why google that, any ideas?

 

[tmar]

Absolutely. He had NO reason to lie or fabricate. He knew immediately CW did something. If he hadn’t seen this extra side of CW, he may not have tuned into CWs behavior as quickly.

On a side note, in one of the videos I saw a For Sale in that neighbor’s yard so I looked it up. It was taken off the market recently. Can’t blame them. Nothing like an international murder story to reduce your selling price or just crazy people wanting to come look at it since it’s next to the Watts. Another collateral victim.

There was a big write up, in the papers, where I live recently.
Houses, where a murder has occurred, sell way below the market price.

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

what is oxycodone? what is the last term in the search, is it 'will'? I can't quite make it out.

It's an opioid painkiller, highly desirable on the black market and hard to come by even from doctors these days. I believe that last term in the search is "will" ...

 

[Nikynoo]

Or suicide. Most definitely strange in my book. And I thought they could recover deleted things, at least on computers. Maybe the phone OSs are different.

but why google something that you wouldn't be able to get hold of easily? or would this be easy to get on the 'street'?

 

[scapa]

[QUOTE="mtnlites, post: 14614197, member: 126216"]VERY difficult to get a script for it, since it is scheduled. No refills, you have to go hack to doc to get a new script. Usually for post-op pain or for chronic pain patients like myself. My condition is progressive and has no cure. We simply try to make me comfortable. Average lifespan is 42 years and some of these short-lasting pain meds are more helpful than the extended relief. In my case, Hospice fomes out once a week for pallaitive care. It's a serious script, but one that could be leftover from major surgery. I had it after neck fusion and brain surgery. 30mg is the highest dose. Most people start at 5mg.[/QUOTE]

I'll add, as a fellow lupus sufferer, that the one time I was prescribed it I essentially departed my body (and brain) until it wore off, and never took it again. Can't imagine that SW took it at these does regularly and lived at the pace she did -- but again, people build up tolerances and my experience is very limited. Makes more sense as something she may have taken after her surgery.

 

[Jennifer17]

but why google something that you wouldn't be able to get hold of easily? or would this be easy to get on the 'street'?

SW probably had some left over from her neck surgery.

 

[celticthyme]

CW doesn’t seem like the type of person to take the initiative around the house, or in most areas of his life.

Unless he has a vested interest in something, he’s willing to take a backseat and go with the flow.


This is made pretty clear in the discovery document.

He only cleaned the house after “they vanished,” because he was covering up a crime.

I highly doubt he did many household chores prior to that, without being asked.

We had a VI claim that he did a great deal around the house, but we all know that we were likely being lied to.

If you view some of SW's many you tube videos, she had him cleaning a lot. She must have spent hours a day doing that. Her mind stream just kept going, while promoting her MSM stuff.

 

[Charlot123]

I would never have my husband decorate the house. He had the basement and the garage and his house office.

When I look at it through people’s eyes now, maybe it is not right. Something to contemplate. My husband’s idea of decorating is motorcycle posters, random tools mounted on the wall, notes to his self stuck with pins into the wall.

I just can’t.

I would split; «living» part of the house decorated by you, his room and the basement, by him. (Life is not worthy of squabbles).

 

[BrownRice]

do you need a script for it? and what would that dosage indicate pain wise?

Not sure of dosing info, but my understanding is doctors are really decreasing number of scripts due to abuse. I have read that the over prescribing of Oxy is what lead to the increase in heroin usage due to the desperation of oxy users cut off by drs.