GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #66

[MsBetsy]

The consensus from the basement is that they took numerous screenshots of the sentencing hearing video, compared those to the photo of JW on the "Journey of Bella Marie" blog and they didn't look alike in the face or in their stature. MOO

Really? I wonder who the heck it was, then. I didn't see the blog but I remember seeing the picture Chris took of the family picture at the Watts home to show Nickol. It was an old picture so it is hard to tell. Imo

 

[MyBelle]

They do seem to magnetize to empaths and sensitive types. It just doesn't feel like a compliment when they try to destroy your life, stalk and/or attempt to kill you.

Narcissists are predators and it sure isn't a compliment to their victims. JMO

 

[pocketaccent]

Do we know for sure that the ring was in the car? He went straight there before entering the house, at first I wondered if it was the key to the garage door or something.
If it was the ring I wonder why he wouldn't have removed it before he went downstairs. I don't get it.

My speculation:
He kills Shanann, takes the ring off, puts in his pocket, right before leaving the house, places it in the car for safe keeping, then upon arrival, opens the car door, picks it up, puts back in his pocket.

(His garage entrance door to the house is always open according to CW. Mine also is never locked. Too inconvenient to lock that door)

 

[PommyMommy]

She was sitting with Cindy and Ronnie, and she also left with them, before anyone else. She had a big gold chunky neclace and dyed blonde hair, wearing a bright green short jacket that didn't fit too well. I figured it had to be her. She was sitting right next to the lawyer who was sitting next to Ronnie. She looked emotionless.

Here are a couple of screenshots from the sentencing hearing:


This is Bellas blog which has a photo of JW and has been linked in prior threads: Journey of Bella Marie: Your Aunt Jamie and I.

What do you think?

 

[MsBetsy]

I didn't think that woman looked like her at all. MOO

delete

 

[x_files]

There are too many because narcissists are often the children of narcissists and the cycle continues. JMO

true!

 

[Gardener1850]

Wasn't that the time he had been doubling up on the patches, and needed little sleep?

I don't think CW was "doubling up" on the Thrive patches. The one he was using was called "Duo Burn". The patches are split down the middle and you put half on each side of your body. You can see lots of people with the duo patches in the promo video: https://le-vel.com/Products/THRIVE/Burn

 

[MsBetsy]

Here are a couple of screenshots from the sentencing hearing:
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This is Bellas blog which has a photo of JW and has been linked in prior threads: Journey of Bella Marie: Your Aunt Jamie and I.

What do you think?

Uhhh...they look nothing alike.

 

[x_files]

I think CW was using drugs. Perhaps Adderall and I wonder who supplied it.

In order to lose weight and become buff so quickly, I think he was abusing various drugs including steroids, perhaps even meth.

 

[MyBelle]

Do you think he could have been hyped up from doubling up on the thrive patches and no sleep?

I think it was more than the patches because his personality made such dramatic changes that bewildered his wife. He had been wearing the patches for a much longer period of time. JMO

 

[scdiv]

My speculation:
He kills Shanann, takes the ring off, puts in his pocket, right before leaving the house, places it in the car for safe keeping, then upon arrival, opens the car door, picks it up, puts back in his pocket.

(His garage entrance door to the house is always open according to CW. Mine also is never locked. Too inconvenient to lock that door)

Watch at about 34:00... it seems like something clicks in his head to go "find" the ring. Then the cop starts talking and about 34:15 - 34:20 he seems to subconsciously be touching his pocket. Then he does a total awkward pivot and beelines it back toward the room and comes out with the ring. I could be wrong of course, but he is such a bad actor that it seems so obvious to me.

 

[Abba's Tears]

Here are a couple of screenshots from the sentencing hearing:
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This is Bellas blog which has a photo of JW and has been linked in prior threads: Journey of Bella Marie: Your Aunt Jamie and I.

What do you think?

I'm pretty sure it's her. The profile picture in Bella's Blog also shows a small photo of her which matches the other two. What a horrible, sad, woman to contribute to so much hurt and heartache.

 

[SaguaroSpirit]

I don't know why he would take it from the car and then hide it under the pillows on the couch, though. It makes no sense.

Not a lot of what CW does or says seems to make a lot of sense.

 

[MyBelle]

I have wondered if it was her rings too. If he was loading up the bodies into his truck and realized he should save the ring - not to stage, but because it had monetary value and could be worth something. So perhaps hurriedly threw it into her car so he wouldn't have to go back into the house before leaving for work. Just total speculation on my part though.

I got the sense he had the ring in his pocket when he was upstairs talking to NUA. He kept feeling his pocket, especially right before he went into the bedroom to "find" the ring. The cop called him back to ask him something about Shanann, so he turned around and came back and it seemed like he was feeling or thinking of his pocket again. Right after that is when he went into the other room and "came back with the ring." I think he had it on him, so that's what I suspect he got out of her car.


CW had gotten very into health and fitness, and talked about using things that had natural ingredients, not pharmaceutical drugs. There is nothing that has come out that suggests he was taking adderall.

His behavior suggests he was using something a tad stronger than "natural" ingredients. Do you really think CW would admit to using illegal street drugs? It wouldn't change his current address whether he admitted it or not. JMO

 

[MsBetsy]

Narcissists are predators and it sure isn't a compliment to their victims. JMO

Maybe the OP was referring to them being drawn to compassionate, warm, caring women. Also a tendency to look for women who are physically attractive. Some may get an ego boost by having an attractive or sexy woman by their side, who they can "show off."
It doesn't necessarily mean it's an insult to the woman if she is victimized by someone who is Narcississtic. It can happen to intelligent women too, and it does not mean there is anything wrong with their character. Imo

 

[JEM1975]

But why was he telling anyone where her things were on Monday morning? She was supposed to be in bed asleep when he left and NUA had not discovered her missing at that stage.

Good catch!

 

[Gardener1850]

Here are a couple of screenshots from the sentencing hearing:
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This is Bellas blog which has a photo of JW and has been linked in prior threads: Journey of Bella Marie: Your Aunt Jamie and I.

What do you think?

I think that is her. She is 7 years older than CW. That makes her early 40's now. Mid 30's in the blog photo. A lot can change for women face-wise between 30's and 40's. No amount of make up can combat gravity, and live video is different from a social media photo that can be touched up. The details are blurry in the court photo but general face shape, squared off chin and hair is the same. JMO.

 

[MsBetsy]

Not a lot of what CW does or says seems to make a lot of sense.

I know, but I am still curious as to whether or not it was ever verified that the ring was in the car.

 

[BelleIsle]

Here are a couple of screenshots from the sentencing hearing:
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This is Bellas blog which has a photo of JW and has been linked in prior threads: Journey of Bella Marie: Your Aunt Jamie and I.

What do you think?

Maybe the woman at the sentencing was an aunt? I've seen one other picture of JW (other than the blog above) and she appears younger than the woman in the video, although they have similar features.

 

[pocketaccent]

Watch at about 34:00... it seems like something clicks in his head to go "find" the ring. Then the cop starts talking and about 34:15 - 34:20 he seems to subconsciously be touching his pocket. Then he does a total awkward pivot and beelines it back toward the room and comes out with the ring. I could be wrong of course, but he is such a bad actor that it seems so obvious to me.

I agree. Also on that same video @17:40 is where he beelines to the Lexus to pick up something small that he wraps inside his hand. It has to be the ring. IMO.