GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #67

[Gardener1850]

I'm not buying that NK is in "witness protection". Nor do I think she got any credible "death threats" from anyone. The one person with a possible motive to harm her is serving a life sentence in Wisconsin now. No one wants you dead or harmed, NK. We just want you to quietly go away and we hope you learn to focus on yourself less. Don't write any books and then complain that everyone is stalking you. Don't sell your story to the tabloids either. Have some self respect and respect for the real victims in this case. MOO.

 

[PommyMommy]

Colorado Killer Chris Watts Receiving Love Letters in Jail
“In my heart, you are a great guy,” wrote a woman named Candace, reported ABC 11. “I’m hoping to brighten your days,” wrote another woman.

One of the women sent a picture of herself in a bikini.

Psychologist Dr. Judy Ho, co-host of “Face the Truth,” said that even the worst criminals have people who write to them, visit them, and even propose marriage.

“These women have created a fantasy life for themselves especially with their pretend relationship with these men behind bars,” she told Inside Edition.

“It is oftentimes what we talk about when women seem to be attracted by bad boys. It is because they want to be the special person that can turn this life around and be able to attribute that to their own self-esteem.”

 

[LittleFleurDeLys]

Colorado Killer Chris Watts Receiving Love Letters in Jail
“In my heart, you are a great guy,” wrote a woman named Candace, reported ABC 11. “I’m hoping to brighten your days,” wrote another woman.

One of the women sent a picture of herself in a bikini.

Psychologist Dr. Judy Ho, co-host of “Face the Truth,” said that even the worst criminals have people who write to them, visit them, and even propose marriage.

“These women have created a fantasy life for themselves especially with their pretend relationship with these men behind bars,” she told Inside Edition.

“It is oftentimes what we talk about when women seem to be attracted by bad boys. It is because they want to be the special person that can turn this life around and be able to attribute that to their own self-esteem.”

Disgusting. Makes my blood boil... thinking about all the "tiny" mistakes we do in our daily lifes and there are absolutly NO people who would even consider standing up for us... and that devil... get's comfort from strangers! Crazy world we are living in. I hope he suffers until the very end. I would LOVE to send him this message personally! And obviously those "women" have no heart otherwise they couldn't dismiss what he did to his family.

 

[human]

Disgusting. Makes my blood boil... thinking about all the "tiny" mistakes we do in our daily lifes and there are absolutly NO people who would even consider standing up for us... and that devil... get's comfort from strangers! Crazy world we are living in. I hope he suffers until the very end. I would LOVE to send him this message personally! And obviously those "women" have no heart otherwise they couldn't dismiss what he did to his family.

Their love will reach him and change him.

I have known two women who were into prison relationships. Not sure what kind of prisoners. The one I asked snottily told me it was none of my business what he was in for.

I don’t know what she gave the guy but she planned on a relationship when he got out. Suprise suprise. Shortly after he got out he ditched her.

Both the women I know are professional, college educated women with good jobs. The one who was ditched is married to a husband she hates.

I have not seen a movie for a long time, but remember all of those heroes who were bad boys in movies. James Bomd is rather psychopathic.

 

[cybervampira]

I'm not buying that NK is in "witness protection". Nor do I think she got any credible "death threats" from anyone. The one person with a possible motive to harm her is serving a life sentence in Wisconsin now. No one wants you dead or harmed, NK. We just want you to quietly go away and we hope you learn to focus on yourself less. Don't write any books and then complain that everyone is stalking you. Don't sell your story to the tabloids either. Have some self respect and respect for the real victims in this case. MOO.

My dear Gardener, you know I value your posts a lot and I‘m on the same page with you most of the time. Forgive me if I need to disagree with you on this one.

A quick Facebook group search comes up with:

Nichol Kessinger - Next in line
Nichol Kessinger - not just a clueless mistress!
Nicole Kessinger, the passive-aggressive murderer

These are closed groups I wouldn’t join but I can certainly use my imagination. Plus, I’ve seen enough spiteful comments on the regular news pages. From seemingly regular moms who want her on the electric chair or make her suffer.

She has not announced a book deal. She has not done any more interviews or home stories. Yet, people seem to be obsessed with her. Even here on WS, she almost gets more hate than CW. She has a vocal fry. She is not as pretty as SW. She is not as feminine as SW. She destroyed their marriage. She deserves anything that‘s coming to her. Her sexual preferences. Her messaging her friend about her sex life. Her watching . Some really misogynistic stuff that has been removed by mods. She does not mourn the victims enough, all based on what, 2-3 interviews? This was only here on WS. I don’t want to know what is being discussed elsewhere, but I find it credible that she is getting threats. There are enough sickos out there.

Even the DA said he is not going for a witch hunt. Why would he use that word?

 

[NuttMegg]

My dear Gardener, you know I value your posts a lot and I‘m on the same page with you most of the time. Forgive me if I need to disagree with you on this one.

A quick Facebook group search comes up with:

Nichol Kessinger - Next in line
Nichol Kessinger - not just a clueless mistress!
Nicole Kessinger, the passive-aggressive murderer

These are closed groups I wouldn’t join but I can certainly use my imagination. Plus, I’ve seen enough spiteful comments on the regular news pages. From seemingly regular moms who want her on the electric chair or make her suffer.

She has not announced a book deal. She has not done any more interviews or home stories. Yet, people seem to be obsessed with her. Even here on WS, she almost gets more hate than CW. She has a vocal fry. She is not as pretty as SW. She is not as feminine as SW. She destroyed their marriage. She deserves anything that‘s coming to her. Her sexual preferences. Her messaging her friend about her sex life. Her watching . Some really misogynistic stuff that has been removed by mods. She does not mourn the victims enough, all based on what, 2-3 interviews? This was only here on WS. I don’t want to know what is being discussed elsewhere, but I find it credible that she is getting threats. There are enough sickos out there.

Even the DA said he is not going for a witch hunt. Why would he use that word?

I don't agree with most of your post, as far more venom and hate was directed towards one of the real victims, Shan'ann herself. Closed FB boards like the ones you mention were numerous with focus against SW, podcasts, live streams, platforms galore to bash her. About "witch hunt", POTUS uses it on Twitter, frequently referring to men -- the term is no longer associated with any particular gender as it once was so long ago.

 

[KNinTX]

"In just a few weeks in prison, Chris Watts received close to 60 letters from complete strangers that expressed both love and hatred for the murderer."

DOZENS of prison letters sent to Chris Watts in which women and men profess their love for murderer | Daily Mail Online

Currently the top story on the Daily Mail homepage... complete with photos some of the women sent along with their love letters. How humiliating for them. I can't help but smirk a little at the thought of it.

 

[cybervampira]

I don't agree with most of your post, as far more venom and hate was directed towards one of the real victims, Shan'ann herself. Closed FB boards like the ones you mention were numerous with focus against SW, podcasts, live streams, platforms galore to bash her. About "witch hunt", POTUS uses it on Twitter, frequently referring to men -- the term is no longer associated with any particular gender as it once was so long ago.

I was referring to NK getting threads. I don’t dispute that SW was attacked. There are similar Facebook groups and posters who make her responsible for being a victim of a terrible crime, and it’s despicable. But how does that justify the hate directed toward NK?

 

[Mellowmelly]

Disgusting. Makes my blood boil... thinking about all the "tiny" mistakes we do in our daily lifes and there are absolutly NO people who would even consider standing up for us... and that devil... get's comfort from strangers! Crazy world we are living in. I hope he suffers until the very end. I would LOVE to send him this message personally! And obviously those "women" have no heart otherwise they couldn't dismiss what he did to his family.

I would imagine these women have various mental health issues, they have to have to be attracted to murderers like CW IMO.

 

[LittleFleurDeLys]

I would imagine these women have various mental health issues, they have to have to be attracted to murderers like CW IMO.

I don't know if anything can be explained with "mental health issues" ... but maybe you are right.

 

[Gardener1850]

My dear Gardener, you know I value your posts a lot and I‘m on the same page with you most of the time. Forgive me if I need to disagree with you on this one.

A quick Facebook group search comes up with:

Nichol Kessinger - Next in line
Nichol Kessinger - not just a clueless mistress!
Nicole Kessinger, the passive-aggressive murderer

These are closed groups I wouldn’t join but I can certainly use my imagination. Plus, I’ve seen enough spiteful comments on the regular news pages. From seemingly regular moms who want her on the electric chair or make her suffer.

She has not announced a book deal. She has not done any more interviews or home stories. Yet, people seem to be obsessed with her. Even here on WS, she almost gets more hate than CW. She has a vocal fry. She is not as pretty as SW. She is not as feminine as SW. She destroyed their marriage. She deserves anything that‘s coming to her. Her sexual preferences. Her messaging her friend about her sex life. Her watching . Some really misogynistic stuff that has been removed by mods. She does not mourn the victims enough, all based on what, 2-3 interviews? This was only here on WS. I don’t want to know what is being discussed elsewhere, but I find it credible that she is getting threats. There are enough sickos out there.

Even the DA said he is not going for a witch hunt. Why would he use that word?

Dear cybervampira,

I believe you that those nasty groups and nasty comments exist. I avoid social media for myself as it just seems to be mostly people entertaining themselves by bad-mouthing others. People like to hide behind their computers to say things they would never say in real life and in person. So I'm not surprised if there are people out there saying that in social media land. I'm also not surprised some people think she was a co-conspirator in the murders. I don't subscribe to that theory but I do believe she lied quite a bit about what she knew and when she knew it, so I can understand why people may think she was in on it.

But do we have any evidence people have sent her death threats? I mean to her house or her personal phone? Are there people who know where she moved to and have been going to her new home and new job and harassing her? If that happened, then she has a right to call the police and press charges. I don't think she will receive witness protection, however. That program is for people who are going to testify against someone and may be in danger because of their testimony. And rarely would that type of protection be given in a family annihilator case such as this. CW was not a mafia boss of a drug trafficker that NK brought down with her testimony. And his family did not seem to hate NK from their media interviews-- they seem to hate CW's real victims instead. So NK is not in danger from CW nor CW's family.

And my dear cyber, I have to disagree that she has not done any other interviews since the Denver Post one (which was almost entirely lies). Maybe not overtly or under her name but I suspect she has been an anonymous source for some articles. I suspect she gave the info reporting she was in "witness protection" and getting death threats. Who else would know that to report it? If someone is placed into witness protection they are not even allowed to contact their family members to tell where they are or that they are going into the program. So if NK is really in that program then the only people who could tell the Daily Mail are the agents who handle her or herself. And I just cannot believe that she is being prevented from communicating with her friends or family. I think either she told someone that "witness protection" story and that person sold the "exclusive" story to DM or she contacted the paper herself. That's why I advise she not do anymore interviews. Plus, she seems to have a problem with telling the truth. So I find this report highly suspect and matching her MO. MOO.

NK may be hated by a few on the internet but it's very unlikely to rise to the level of actual attempts on her life. Sure, there are a lot of nut cases out there. I just don't see anyone going to the extremes of hunting her down to harm her. If she files a harassment lawsuit against some stalker then I will eat my words.

Finally, I have avoided disparaging her looks or her voice (although I find the strange inflections in her voice and her wording to be evidence of insincerity). I repeat that I don't have any hatred for NK. But my sympathy for the real victims of this case-- Shanann, Bella, CeCe and Niko and those who love them FAR outweighs any sympathy I will ever have for NK. NK can spend this Christmas with her family (I don't believe she is in a witness protection program that would prevent that). Shanann, Bella and CeCe will never have another Christmas. Baby Niko will never have his first Christmas. What NK has lost in her personal life (A job she had held for 4 months? An apartment? A relationship with a man who was cheating with her and turned out to be a murderer?) pales in comparison to what SW's family and friends have lost. This is why I wish her to go quietly away and get some perspective on what is really important in life. I also hope the news will stop reporting on her. It seems to be the only reason we are still talking about her here-- new things keep coming out. Hopefully that will die down soon.

JMO.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

I would imagine these women have various mental health issues, they have to have to be attracted to murderers like CW IMO.

I agree. Anybody who does this is not in a healthy state of mind.
jmo

 

[Mellowmelly]

Did anyone see the police interview with Trent Bolt ? If so what are your opinions on his allegations ?

 

[cybervampira]

Dear cybervampira,

I believe you that those nasty groups and nasty comments exist. I avoid social media for myself as it just seems to be mostly people entertaining themselves by bad-mouthing others. People like to hide behind their computers to say things they would never say in real life and in person. So I'm not surprised if there are people out there saying that in social media land. I'm also not surprised some people think she was a co-conspirator in the murders. I don't subscribe to that theory but I do believe she lied quite a bit about what she knew and when she knew it, so I can understand why people may think she was in on it.

But do we have any evidence people have sent her death threats? I mean to her house or her personal phone? Are there people who know where she moved to and have been going to her new home and new job and harassing her? If that happened, then she has a right to call the police and press charges. I don't think she will receive witness protection, however. That program is for people who are going to testify against someone and may be in danger because of their testimony. And rarely would that type of protection be given in a family annihilator case such as this. CW was not a mafia boss of a drug trafficker that NK brought down with her testimony. And his family did not seem to hate NK from their media interviews-- they seem to hate CW's real victims instead. So NK is not in danger from CW nor CW's family.

I don’t know if it needs a stalker to receive death threats. I don’t know about the US but in Germany, if you make death threads via social media, it’s regarded as a death threat.

And my dear cyber, I have to disagree that she has not done any other interviews since the Denver Post one (which was almost entirely lies). Maybe not overtly or under her name but I suspect she has been an anonymous source for some articles. I suspect she gave the info reporting she was in "witness protection" and getting death threats. Who else would know that to report it? If someone is placed into witness protection they are not even allowed to contact their family members to tell where they are or that they are going into the program. So if NK is really in that program then the only people who could tell the Daily Mail are the agents who handle her or herself. And I just cannot believe that she is being prevented from communicating with her friends or family. I think either she told someone that "witness protection" story and that person sold the "exclusive" story to DM or she contacted the paper herself. That's why I advise she not do anymore interviews. Plus, she seems to have a problem with telling the truth. So I find this report highly suspect and matching her MO. MOO.

Quoting the Daily Mail: ”Chris Watts' mistress is in witness protection hundreds of miles from home and will be given a new name and identity, it has been reported.

What is the source of this report? I believe it‘s Radar Online. The ones who pay for juicy stories. Quoting Crime Online: ”According to RadarOnline, a source close to the investigation revealed that federal authorities had placed Kessinger, 30, into witness protection for her safety.“

A ”source close to the investigation“ would not be NK but LE. If all that is even true. I doubt it, just as you do. As I said earlier in this threat, she may receive some sort of LE protection if threads were made (in public or personally) but this has nothing to do with the Federal witness protection program.

NK may be hated by a few on the internet but it's very unlikely to rise to the level of actual attempts on her life. Sure, there are a lot of nut cases out there. I just don't see anyone going to the extremes of hunting her down to harm her. If she files a harassment lawsuit against some stalker then I will eat my words.

Even if people are just loudmouthed, it doesn’t mean NK has no reason to be afraid. Imagine you read about how people want to see you dead on social media every day. It’s scary to day the least.

Finally, I have avoided disparaging her looks or her voice (although I find the strange inflections in her voice and her wording to be evidence of insincerity). I repeat that I don't have any hatred for NK. But my sympathy for the real victims of this case-- Shanann, Bella, CeCe and Niko and those who love them FAR outweighs any sympathy I will ever have for NK. NK can spend this Christmas with her family (I don't believe she is in a witness protection program that would prevent that). Shanann, Bella and CeCe will never have another Christmas. Baby Niko will never have his first Christmas. What NK has lost in her personal life (A job she had held for 4 months? An apartment? A relationship with a man who was cheating with her and turned out to be a murderer?) pales in comparison to what SW's family and friends have lost. This is why I wish her to go quietly away and get some perspective on what is really important in life. I also hope the news will stop reporting on her. It seems to be the only reason we are still talking about her here-- new things keep coming out. Hopefully that will die down soon.

JMO.

Yes, I completely understand that. All I‘m saying is it was not her fault what happened to SW, Niko, Bella, and CeCe, and showing compassion for the victims shouldn’t mean there cannot be any compassion for NK at the same time. Yes, she was not killed, I get that. She‘s not a likeable person. But she doesn’t deserve being shamed and threatened for their murder. CW is solely responsible for that.

 

[molly1255]

I'm not buying that NK is in "witness protection". Nor do I think she got any credible "death threats" from anyone. The one person with a possible motive to harm her is serving a life sentence in Wisconsin now. No one wants you dead or harmed, NK. We just want you to quietly go away and we hope you learn to focus on yourself less. Don't write any books and then complain that everyone is stalking you. Don't sell your story to the tabloids either. Have some self respect and respect for the real victims in this case. MOO.

I agree and I doubt she is in witness protection. If she wants to hide from the consequences of being judged in the court of public opinion, she can color her hair, change her name and move far away. She can take training and get a permit to carry if she thinks her life is truly in danger and invest in a good home security system.

She wouldn't be having any of these problems if she had acted with transparency, fairness and integrity toward others. People who aren't transparent, who are self-serving and who don't treat others with fairness or integrity tend to be scorned by decent people. That's the way it goes in this world.

How she deals with this is her problem entirely, IMO.

All JMO.

 

[Breezie]

"In just a few weeks in prison, Chris Watts received close to 60 letters from complete strangers that expressed both love and hatred for the murderer."

DOZENS of prison letters sent to Chris Watts in which women and men profess their love for murderer | Daily Mail Online

Currently the top story on the Daily Mail homepage... complete with photos some of the women sent along with their love letters. How humiliating for them. I can't help but smirk a little at the thought of it.

Not just humiliating, some of these women could have put their jobs at risk, and any current relationships in jeopardy. Wonder if they would have written to him if they knew their first names, hometowns, photos and letters could be published in news articles.

 

[NuttMegg]

I was referring to NK getting threads. I don’t dispute that SW was attacked. There are similar Facebook groups and posters who make her responsible for being a victim of a terrible crime, and it’s despicable. But how does that justify the hate directed toward NK?

Well, I don't agree that there is that much "hate" directed towards her, especially here. I've never seen that word even mentioned here in relation to NK.

 

[cybervampira]

Well, I don't agree that there is that much "hate" directed towards her, especially here. I've never seen that word even mentioned here in relation to NK.

It’s just the impression I get when reading some of the comments. And the Facebook group titles speak for themselves. Just sayin' she absolutely has reason to fear some nutjob will come after her. Is that enough to be in a Federal witness protection program? Noooooo! But the minute she hears something around the house or feels someone is following her (real or not), LE would be negligent not to provide some sort of protection.

 

[Mellowmelly]

It’s just the impression I get when reading some of the comments. And the Facebook group titles speak for themselves. Just sayin' she absolutely has reason to fear some nutjob will come after her. Is that enough to be in a Federal witness protection program? Noooooo! But the minute she hears something around the house or feels someone is following her (real or not), LE would be negligent not to provide some sort of protection.

I think you could be right, she could be in danger if someone unhinged takes a dislike to her for her actions. And I think a lot of people, here and elsewhere have taken a dislike to her, myself included, not just for having an affair with a married man but for her blasé attitude throughout her police interviews after the murders. She did herself no favours. Unfortunately she decided to break up a seemingly happy home and marriage, although the blame ultimately lies with CW for that, he is the one that was married and cheating. Let this be a big lesson to her, play with fire and you will get burned, she has to suffer the consequences.

 

[WildWest]

someone unhinged takes a dislike to her

Or if she hooks up with another CW -like man again.