Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #84

[10ofRods]

Being out on bond is not the same as being a free person. People should understand that it's conditional. Where I live, a person out on bond (or on probaton/parole) is going to have more trouble with LE, for even a minor infraction.

Barry needs to keep his nose (and everything else) clean, if he is to be treated as a regular US citizen who is accused as he is. Frankly, I think he's been handled with kid gloves. Privilege is dripping off of him. But why? (Rhetorical question - we can't really discuss it in the main threads).

Well, I can discuss one aspect: the image that Suzanne created and helped him bring to town. You've seen her. Style is a real thing. She did not neglect substance either (that's a given: she was kind, courteous, compassionate, smiling, sweet, mild).

It's important in small tourist towns (very). And the two of them became not only solid citizens, but a kind of symbol of what better-off Salidans could be (living near the river, in a mansion, beautiful daughters, great clothes, winning smiles, no one seems to need braces, their photos never have an errant detail).

Small towns can be quite protective of certain people (almost never women - SD is experiencing repercussions bouncing off of Barry's situation; I doubt she'd have two R/O's if not for Barry...Barry only has a few more than SD, for gosh sakes - and he's an accused murderer). The men in small towns may feel personally responsible for certain behaviors that might have encouraged someone like Barry to buy his own PR. It's scary because once one guy goes bad, what happens next? What if it's true that "Everyone liked Barry" and saw him nearly every day, toodling around with his Bobcat. No one cared if he was having affairs or not (or if he paid his taxes, etc). They just liked him for his surface, because that's what people do.

I think most of you get my point.

 

[MrsWatson]

Being out on bond is not the same as being a free person. People should understand that it's conditional. Where I live, a person out on bond (or on probaton/parole) is going to have more trouble with LE, for even a minor infraction.

Barry needs to keep his nose (and everything else) clean, if he is to be treated as a regular US citizen who is accused as he is. Frankly, I think he's been handled with kid gloves. Privilege is dripping off of him. But why? (Rhetorical question - we can't really discuss it in the main threads).

Well, I can discuss one aspect: the image that Suzanne created and helped him bring to town. You've seen her. Style is a real thing. She did not neglect substance either (that's a given: she was kind, courteous, compassionate, smiling, sweet, mild).

It's important in small tourist towns (very). And the two of them became not only solid citizens, but a kind of symbol of what better-off Salidans could be (living near the river, in a mansion, beautiful daughters, great clothes, winning smiles, no one seems to need braces, their photos never have an errant detail).

Small towns can be quite protective of certain people (almost never women - Shoshona is experiencing repercussions bouncing off of Barry's situation; I doubt she'd have two R/O's if not for Barry...Barry only has a few more than Shoshona, for gosh sakes - and he's an accused murderer). The men in small towns may feel personally responsible for certain behaviors that might have encouraged someone like Barry to buy his own PR. It's scary because once one guy goes bad, what happens next? What if it's true that "Everyone liked Barry" and saw him nearly every day, toodling around with his Bobcat. No one cared if he was having affairs or not (or if he paid his taxes, etc). They just liked him for his surface, because that's what people do.

I think most of you get my point.

All hat and no knickers?

 

[Deleted member 222031]

Being out on bond is not the same as being a free person. People should understand that it's conditional. Where I live, a person out on bond (or on probaton/parole) is going to have more trouble with LE, for even a minor infraction.

Barry needs to keep his nose (and everything else) clean, if he is to be treated as a regular US citizen who is accused as he is. Frankly, I think he's been handled with kid gloves. Privilege is dripping off of him. But why? (Rhetorical question - we can't really discuss it in the main threads).

Well, I can discuss one aspect: the image that Suzanne created and helped him bring to town. You've seen her. Style is a real thing. She did not neglect substance either (that's a given: she was kind, courteous, compassionate, smiling, sweet, mild).

It's important in small tourist towns (very). And the two of them became not only solid citizens, but a kind of symbol of what better-off Salidans could be (living near the river, in a mansion, beautiful daughters, great clothes, winning smiles, no one seems to need braces, their photos never have an errant detail).

Small towns can be quite protective of certain people (almost never women - Shoshona is experiencing repercussions bouncing off of Barry's situation; I doubt she'd have two R/O's if not for Barry...Barry only has a few more than Shoshona, for gosh sakes - and he's an accused murderer). The men in small towns may feel personally responsible for certain behaviors that might have encouraged someone like Barry to buy his own PR. It's scary because once one guy goes bad, what happens next? What if it's true that "Everyone liked Barry" and saw him nearly every day, toodling around with his Bobcat. No one cared if he was having affairs or not (or if he paid his taxes, etc). They just liked him for his surface, because that's what people do.

I think most of you get my point.

BBM - I don't think I do.

Kid glove treatment? Yes, but why?

Ankle monitor reported to court as not working the day after he is released but he is still on walkabout? Why?

Living nearby Puma Path with impunity? Why?

Trespassing & package theft at scene of crime within two weeks of release but no immediate court action? Why?

Court date still a week away? Why?

Docs filed with the court but not docketed? Why?

The judge can answer all of these why's. I'd like to see him do it on his own initiative or be forced by the prosecution to explain the slow response to BM's infractions (real or perceived).

Where are you DA Stanley?

MOO

ETA: Having him live with SD & her obvious carelessness with regard to obeying the law is absurd. Better not happen! JMO

 

[Momofthreeboys]

BBM - I don't think I do.

Kid glove treatment? Yes, but why?

Ankle monitor reported to court as not working the day after he is released but he is still on walkabout? Why?

Living nearby Puma Path with impunity? Why?

Trespassing & package theft at scene of crime within two weeks of release but no immediate court action? Why?

Court date still a week away? Why?

Docs filed with the court but not docketed? Why?

The judge can answer all of these why's. I'd like to see him do it on his own initiative or be forced by the prosecution to explain the slow response to BM's infractions (real or perceived).

Where are you DA Stanley?

MOO

ETA: Having him live with SD & her obvious carelessness with regard to obeying the law is absurd. Better not happen! JMO

I doubt a judge can force him to live with SD. But wow can the judge legally tell SD she needs to move and Barry move in if there is a lease he is paying and that is factual. Hmmm I don’t think so. It is gonna be interesting for sure how this plays out.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

BBM - I don't think I do.

Kid glove treatment? Yes, but why?

Ankle monitor reported to court as not working the day after he is released but he is still on walkabout? Why?

Living nearby Puma Path with impunity? Why?

Trespassing & package theft at scene of crime within two weeks of release but no immediate court action? Why?

Court date still a week away? Why?

Docs filed with the court but not docketed? Why?

Without getting too specific, can we just say the stereotype treatment of "the good ol' boy network"?

 

[CGray123]

BBM - I don't think I do.

Kid glove treatment? Yes, but why?

Ankle monitor reported to court as not working the day after he is released but he is still on walkabout? Why?

Living nearby Puma Path with impunity? Why?

Trespassing & package theft at scene of crime within two weeks of release but no immediate court action? Why?

Court date still a week away? Why?

Docs filed with the court but not docketed? Why?

The judge can answer all of these why's. I'd like to see him do it on his own initiative or be forced by the prosecution to explain the slow response to BM's infractions (real or perceived).

Where are you DA Stanley?

MOO

ETA: Having him live with SD & her obvious carelessness with regard to obeying the law is absurd. Better not happen! JMO

"Kid glove treatment?" Just because he's out $500,000 cash bond, unable to leave Chaffee except to see his lawyers? Unable to do the things he loves to do? Gimme a break - or give me details of what comprises "kid glove treatment." Remember - the judge must set bond if he thinks the evidence at the hearing leaves room for a jury to have reasonable doubt. We know that prosecutors didn't close all the holes they could have.

The court can't order bond revoked without evidence that the conditions were breached, and the DA and Sheriff are responsible for gathering that evidence and presenting it to court. The bond revocation process then involves a hearing, at which BM has a right to present evidence and argument of his own. I have no doubt the trespass is being investigated with this possibility in mind, among others. But that's not for the court to do on its own, instantly because ignorant people (including some with ulterior motives) say he should.

Court dates are scheduled with the calendars of the participants in mind, among other considerations. The judge doesn't just order everyone to be there or be square.

This isn't the only case on the docket, and hearings require advance work - investigation, research, witness preparation, and all the other things we know about.

Not all documents qualify for public access, and all documents must be evaluated before they are docketed. You won't see the defense motion to suppress evidence before the court rules on it, and you won't see what evidence was suppressed. What good is a suppression order if the suppressed evidence is already disclosed?

On what grounds would the court prohibit BM from renting a place near Puma Path, and with what evidence? WS speculation?

BM is a relatively rich guy, who has choices others accused of serious crimes may not. He has family who love and support him, and he's different from other defendants in that way, too. But all that doesn't mean the court or LE is treating him with kid gloves, or that the Cushions are, either.

LE is clearly alert to any possibility he may be violating the terms of his bond, and willing to ask for changes that are warranted by the facts. They have already requested that the judge revise the terms of BM's bond, and they will have an opportunity to present their arguments in a hearing. Then, but not before, the judge will own what he decides.





Living

 

[10ofRods]

But I still don't understand why the Ritters are afraid of Barry. Or do they just think that he might think they know something?

Because they. are hostile witnesses in a case against him, have heard him shooting guns before, think he's a scofflaw, and they believe he murdered his wife:

Here's a rule of human nature: once someone kills (anything) they are more likely to kill (something) again.

Citations upon request.

 

[DizzyB]

The more I read about SD, the more I think she is a prime candidate for the SODDI defense. I wonder where she was on May 9 & 10. She may not be a dude but maybe the defense could put forth the idea that she was eliminating her competition.

 

[Murphy1950]

The more I read about SD, the more I think she is a prime candidate for the SODDI defense. I wonder where she was on May 9 & 10. She may not be a dude but maybe the defense could put forth the idea that she was eliminating her competition.

Remember the woman Mary Branson...who heard equipment running late at night, also heard a mans and a woman's voice...that night.

 

[sk716]

I'm going through the AA with a fine tooth comb and there are a lot of things we never really talked about because the couldn't get to it in the PH.
There is this one little section and it's incredibly damning.

(Collegiate Peaks Bank)

Per search warrant served by your affiant on Collegiate Peaks Bank, on May 26, 2020, Barry withdrew $5,846.22 in the Suzanne Morphew Foundation account, which brought the balance to $0.00.

The account was opened on March 5, 2020 with a deposit of $5,880.00.

BBM, he closed the foundation in her name after she had been "missing" for only sixteen days. BTW, on the paperwork, it was all his foundation, he just used her name.

 

[Deleted member 222031]

"Kid glove treatment?" Just because he's out $500,000 cash bond, unable to leave Chaffee except to see his lawyers? Unable to do the things he loves to do? Gimme a break - or give me details of what comprises "kid glove treatment." Remember - the judge must set bond if he thinks the evidence at the hearing leaves room for a jury to have reasonable doubt. We know that prosecutors didn't close all the holes they could have.

The court can't order bond revoked without evidence that the conditions were breached, and the DA and Sheriff are responsible for gathering that evidence and presenting it to court. The bond revocation process then involves a hearing, at which BM has a right to present evidence and argument of his own. I have no doubt the trespass is being investigated with this possibility in mind, among others. But that's not for the court to do on its own, instantly because ignorant people (including some with ulterior motives) say he should.

Court dates are scheduled with the calendars of the participants in mind, among other considerations. The judge doesn't just order everyone to be there or be square.

This isn't the only case on the docket, and hearings require advance work - investigation, research, witness preparation, and all the other things we know about.

Not all documents qualify for public access, and all documents must be evaluated before they are docketed. You won't see the defense motion to suppress evidence before the court rules on it, and you won't see what evidence was suppressed. What good is a suppression order if the suppressed evidence is already disclosed?

On what grounds would the court prohibit BM from renting a place near Puma Path, and with what evidence? WS speculation?

BM is a relatively rich guy, who has choices others accused of serious crimes may not. He has family who love and support him, and he's different from other defendants in that way, too. But all that doesn't mean the court or LE is treating him with kid gloves, or that the Cushions are, either.

LE is clearly alert to any possibility he may be violating the terms of his bond, and willing to ask for changes that are warranted by the facts. They have already requested that the judge revise the terms of BM's bond, and they will have an opportunity to present their arguments in a hearing. Then, but not before, the judge will own what he decides.





Living

Ok. But when he has absconded to a sunny beach south of the border with his lover, the slow turning wheels of justice that got him outside will be hard pressed to get him inside again.

No matter how much outrage is spewed about how others don't understand the law, such an outcome may just finely pinpoint the failures of the legal process.

With the result being, delayed or no justice for Suzanne.

The day any court receives notice that a man on bond for 1st degree murder may not be traceable is the day an emergency hearing should start.

Can anyone really disagree with that?
JMO

 

[Murphy1950]

I'm going through the AA with a fine tooth comb and there are a lot of things we never really talked about because the couldn't get to it in the PH.
There is this one little section and it's incredibly damning.
Per search warrant served by your affiant on Collegiate Peaks Bank, on May 26, 2020, Barry withdrew $5,846.22 in the Suzanne Morphew Foundation account, which brought the balance to $0.00.


BBM, he closed the foundation in her name after she had been "missing" for only sixteen days. BTW, on the paperwork, it was all his foundation, he just used her name.

But of course, the 4000K for GD

 

[Love Never Fails]

Being out on bond is not the same as being a free person. People should understand that it's conditional. Where I live, a person out on bond (or on probaton/parole) is going to have more trouble with LE, for even a minor infraction.

Barry needs to keep his nose (and everything else) clean, if he is to be treated as a regular US citizen who is accused as he is. Frankly, I think he's been handled with kid gloves. Privilege is dripping off of him. But why? (Rhetorical question - we can't really discuss it in the main threads).

Well, I can discuss one aspect: the image that Suzanne created and helped him bring to town. You've seen her. Style is a real thing. She did not neglect substance either (that's a given: she was kind, courteous, compassionate, smiling, sweet, mild).

It's important in small tourist towns (very). And the two of them became not only solid citizens, but a kind of symbol of what better-off Salidans could be (living near the river, in a mansion, beautiful daughters, great clothes, winning smiles, no one seems to need braces, their photos never have an errant detail).

Small towns can be quite protective of certain people (almost never women - Shoshona is experiencing repercussions bouncing off of Barry's situation; I doubt she'd have two R/O's if not for Barry...Barry only has a few more than Shoshona, for gosh sakes - and he's an accused murderer). The men in small towns may feel personally responsible for certain behaviors that might have encouraged someone like Barry to buy his own PR. It's scary because once one guy goes bad, what happens next? What if it's true that "Everyone liked Barry" and saw him nearly every day, toodling around with his Bobcat. No one cared if he was having affairs or not (or if he paid his taxes, etc). They just liked him for his surface, because that's what people do.

I think most of you get my point.

I agree with you and Barry does have his followers.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

"Kid glove treatment?" Just because he's out $500,000 cash bond, unable to leave Chaffee except to see his lawyers? Unable to do the things he loves to do? Gimme a break - or give me details of what comprises "kid glove treatment." Remember - the judge must set bond if he thinks the evidence at the hearing leaves room for a jury to have reasonable doubt. We know that prosecutors didn't close all the holes they could have.

The court can't order bond revoked without evidence that the conditions were breached, and the DA and Sheriff are responsible for gathering that evidence and presenting it to court. The bond revocation process then involves a hearing, at which BM has a right to present evidence and argument of his own. I have no doubt the trespass is being investigated with this possibility in mind, among others. But that's not for the court to do on its own, instantly because ignorant people (including some with ulterior motives) say he should.

Court dates are scheduled with the calendars of the participants in mind, among other considerations. The judge doesn't just order everyone to be there or be square.

This isn't the only case on the docket, and hearings require advance work - investigation, research, witness preparation, and all the other things we know about.

Not all documents qualify for public access, and all documents must be evaluated before they are docketed. You won't see the defense motion to suppress evidence before the court rules on it, and you won't see what evidence was suppressed. What good is a suppression order if the suppressed evidence is already disclosed?

On what grounds would the court prohibit BM from renting a place near Puma Path, and with what evidence? WS speculation?

BM is a relatively rich guy, who has choices others accused of serious crimes may not. He has family who love and support him, and he's different from other defendants in that way, too. But all that doesn't mean the court or LE is treating him with kid gloves, or that the Cushions are, either.

LE is clearly alert to any possibility he may be violating the terms of his bond, and willing to ask for changes that are warranted by the facts. They have already requested that the judge revise the terms of BM's bond, and they will have an opportunity to present their arguments in a hearing. Then, but not before, the judge will own what he decides.





Living

Again I cannot argue with your points.

 

[10ofRods]

The decision to have Barry stay in Chaffee County is standard.

To change that, would be to adopt a remarkably liberal standard toward someone bound over for First Degree Murder in Colorado.

I get the feeling that young Judge Murphy still thinks he has a career ahead. Hard to go back into private practice.

 

[10ofRods]

"Kid glove treatment?" Just because he's out $500,000 cash bond, unable to leave Chaffee except to see his lawyers? Unable to do the things he loves to do? Gimme a break - or give me details of what comprises "kid glove treatment." Remember - the judge must set bond if he thinks the evidence at the hearing leaves room for a jury to have reasonable doubt. We know that prosecutors didn't close all the holes they could have.

The court can't order bond revoked without evidence that the conditions were breached, and the DA and Sheriff are responsible for gathering that evidence and presenting it to court. The bond revocation process then involves a hearing, at which BM has a right to present evidence and argument of his own. I have no doubt the trespass is being investigated with this possibility in mind, among others. But that's not for the court to do on its own, instantly because ignorant people (including some with ulterior motives) say he should.

Court dates are scheduled with the calendars of the participants in mind, among other considerations. The judge doesn't just order everyone to be there or be square.

This isn't the only case on the docket, and hearings require advance work - investigation, research, witness preparation, and all the other things we know about.

Not all documents qualify for public access, and all documents must be evaluated before they are docketed. You won't see the defense motion to suppress evidence before the court rules on it, and you won't see what evidence was suppressed. What good is a suppression order if the suppressed evidence is already disclosed?

On what grounds would the court prohibit BM from renting a place near Puma Path, and with what evidence? WS speculation?

BM is a relatively rich guy, who has choices others accused of serious crimes may not. He has family who love and support him, and he's different from other defendants in that way, too. But all that doesn't mean the court or LE is treating him with kid gloves, or that the Cushions are, either.

LE is clearly alert to any possibility he may be violating the terms of his bond, and willing to ask for changes that are warranted by the facts. They have already requested that the judge revise the terms of BM's bond, and they will have an opportunity to present their arguments in a hearing. Then, but not before, the judge will own what he decides.


Living

My view is based on much more. We can agree to disagree. I am not talking about "documents."

I don't know where you live (and am not asking) but I see what I see. I see a judge who is lenient.

I am astonished that you think "LE is clearly alert." Can you give me some idea why you would think that? I can only say that LE I know would say, "We wish."

They can barely do the ongoing police work - and it's true in CO, IMO. In most places. It would be only the most elite, rich taxpaying entity that was "clearly" alert right now. IMO. The reason Barry is out on ankle monitor is for precisely this reason. IMO. No money for anything more than an ankle monitor. I feel as if you're saying they have no reason to hold him, for First Degree, under CO statute, when in fact this judge already chose a non-normative judicial path by allowing Barry out, at all.

Barry needs to keep his nose clean. There are actual. neighbors who view things in their own way. Judges are to take note of that in situations where an alleged murderer is out and about. The idea is that the alleged murderer would try and obey all local laws and the terms of his release.

If they can't get a radio signal from his monitor, he has to go back to jail until they can do another hearing. Long legal precedent.

 

[10ofRods]

It may be that the State is just protecting their witnesses from anyone trying to get them to change their statements. JMO
snipped for focus.

I agree, except for the word "just."

The State has an absolute responsibility to protect witnesses as best it can, IMO.

 

[crhedBngr]

@10ofRods :

All valid points.

JMVHO.

 

[kkdj]

Remember the woman Mary Branson...who heard equipment running late at night, also heard a mans and a woman's voice...that night.

That sounds familiar. I had forgotten that about a woman's voice.

 

[Deleted member 222031]

My view is based on much more. We can agree to disagree. I am not talking about "documents."

I don't know where you live (and am not asking) but I see what I see. I see a judge who is lenient.

I am astonished that you think "LE is clearly alert." Can you give me some idea why you would think that? I can only say that LE I know would say, "We wish."

They can barely do the ongoing police work - and it's true in CO, IMO. In most places. It would be only the most elite, rich taxpaying entity that was "clearly" alert right now. IMO. The reason Barry is out on ankle monitor is for precisely this reason. IMO. No money for anything more than an ankle monitor. I feel as if you're saying they have no reason to hold him, for First Degree, under CO statute, when in fact this judge already chose a non-normative judicial path by allowing Barry out, at all.

Barry needs to keep his nose clean. There are actual. neighbors who view things in their own way. Judges are to take note of that in situations where an alleged murderer is out and about. The idea is that the alleged murderer would try and obey all local laws and the terms of his release.

If they can't get a radio signal from his monitor, he has to go back to jail until they can do another hearing. Long legal precedent.

Am I mistaken that the company that monitors his ankle jewelry notified the court the day after his release that his living near Puma Path makes tracking him unreliable?

If so, shouldn't he be waiting in the county jail until the Oct. 13 hearing per your understanding?

TIA