Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #86

[GatorFL]

Kinda tough when it doesn't exist.

And this DNA being "exculpatory," is absolutely hilarious.

Sorry, I disagree. Thankfully the Brady rule exists. Circumstantial cases are tough, I still think the evidence is highly favorable for Barry.

 

[Lyanna]

Anyone else believe that it was BM who encouraged the security gates be bought and installed due to the concerns he had round his daughters safety?

Possible? Yes
Probable ? No, imo, Suzanne was initially, alledgedly, to have been attacked by a mountain lion - pretty sure a gate wouldn't bother said mountain lion if it also had the ability to push a bike down a ravine and plant a bicycle helmet.
Then Suzanne was abducted by someone - is the gate located right upon entrance to PP home, or nearer to where bike was found, either way, if abducted following a bike ride, gate may make little to no difference presuming it would be open for Suzanne's return home .
Also, BM SOLD the house REALLY quickly following Suzanne's disappearance - so why would he be concerned with the safety of his children in the home they no longer OWNED.

One more thing - unless those gates were of benefit to BM himself in some way, doesn't strike me as a consideration of his - didn't appear to give a monkeys about security when Suzanne was alive with his switched off security cameras and leaving her alone in that isolated home with poor cell/WiFi signal and no landline.

moo, jmo

 

[MassGuy]

Sorry, I disagree. Thankfully the Brady rule exists. Circumstantial cases are tough, I still think the evidence is highly favorable for Barry.

Are you sure you're in the right thread?

 

[OldCop]

Seems to me that it's long understood that your neighbor's ring cam or surveillance video at random, voluntarily handed over to LE, overrules any privacy concern of a defendant. You have no expectation of privacy when traveling on a public roadway. Welcome to the 21st century, folks.

I’m wondering when we will have a big lawsuit, (if we haven’t already), from someone who was caught on a neighbor’s ring cam committing a crime on their own property as opposed to the street/sidewalk. We know footage has been used from the neighbors in cases such as Chris Watts and Gannon Stauch, but this showed things that happened in the driveways, not the commission of the crimes themselves. What if you have a ring cam on your back door that picks up the neighbors’s backyards? You might see someone burying a body, drowning someone in the hot tub or……. You just like to watch the neighbors skinny dipping in their own pool.

 

[Kingsley]

I’m wondering when we will have a big lawsuit, (if we haven’t already), from someone who was caught on a neighbor’s ring cam committing a crime on their own property as opposed to the street/sidewalk. We know footage has been used from the neighbors in cases such as Chris Watts and Gannon Stauch, but this showed things that happened in the driveways, not the commission of the crimes themselves. What if you have a ring cam on your back door that picks up the neighbors’s backyards? You might see someone burying a body, drowning someone in the hot tub or……. You just like to watch the neighbors skinny dipping in their own pool.

Very Rear Window, except that the camera is no longer being used to just zoom in but to record.

 

[GatorFL]

Are you sure you're in the right thread?

Yes.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Anyone else believe that it was BM who encouraged the security gates be bought and installed due to the concerns he had round his daughters safety?

Possible? Yes
Probable ? No, imo, Suzanne was initially, alledgedly, to have been attacked by a mountain lion - pretty sure a gate wouldn't bother said mountain lion if it also had the ability to push a bike down a ravine and plant a bicycle helmet.
Then Suzanne was abducted by someone - is the gate located right upon entrance to PP home, or nearer to where bike was found, either way, if abducted following a bike ride, gate may make little to no difference presuming it would be open for Suzanne's return home .
Also, BM SOLD the house REALLY quickly following Suzanne's disappearance - so why would he be concerned with the safety of his children in the home they no longer OWNED.

One more thing - unless those gates were of benefit to BM himself in some way, doesn't strike me as a consideration of his - didn't appear to give a monkeys about security when Suzanne was alive with his switched off security cameras and leaving her alone in that isolated home with poor cell/WiFi signal and no landline.

moo, jmo

Oh I think he very well could have started the conversation. If I recall one showed up at the end of his driveway after Suzanne disappeared after the Andrew Moorman search.

 

[OldCop]

Kinda tough when it doesn't exist.

And this DNA being "exculpatory," is absolutely hilarious.

Yes it is. Defense is pushing all this to prove tunnel vision on the part of LE. The thing is, every time the prosecution shows why someone has been ruled out as a possible suspect, they are also proving they didn’t have tunnel vision.

 

[Megnut]

Prosecutors are obligated to turn over any and all exculpatory evidence they find.

Of course they are. If they come across any.

A partial DNA match that doesn't link to the crime -- or even the same state -- is not exculpatory. It's a dead end.

JMO

 

[OldCop]

Are you sure you're in the right thread?

 

[MrsWatson]

I’m wondering when we will have a big lawsuit, (if we haven’t already), from someone who was caught on a neighbor’s ring cam committing a crime on their own property as opposed to the street/sidewalk. We know footage has been used from the neighbors in cases such as Chris Watts and Gannon Stauch, but this showed things that happened in the driveways, not the commission of the crimes themselves. What if you have a ring cam on your back door that picks up the neighbors’s backyards? You might see someone burying a body, drowning someone in the hot tub or……. You just like to watch the neighbors skinny dipping in their own pool.

I think you'll find this an interesting read of a recent case here in the UK. I think we'll be seeing a lot more of these cases everywhere.

Amazon asks Ring owners to respect privacy after court rules usage broke law

 

[Lyanna]

Oh I think he very well could have started the conversation. If I recall one showed up at the end of his driveway after Suzanne disappeared after the Andrew Moorman search.

But was that out of concern for his daughter(s) or for his own self interest?
Doubt we will find out the truth - Barry lies, A LOT it would seem.

imo

 

[HongKongPhooey]

I think you'll find this an interesting read of a recent case here in the UK. I think we'll be seeing a lot more of these cases everywhere.

Amazon asks Ring owners to respect privacy after court rules usage broke law

I was just thinking of this one too!

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1458204421565919232?s=21
Caitlin Rogers is a forensic serologist for DNA analysis. She has authorized 9 DNA reports in the #SuzanneMorphew case. She is NOT a CODIS administrator. She is a CODIS case work user.

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1458204964694593539?s=21
Agent Rogers takes notes, and prints emails, and puts them in the case file. She also writes a synopsis of the topics discussed in the communication log. Rogers is now reviewing the comm. log. which was prepared on Nov. 2, 2021.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/ashleykktv/status/1458208955381993472?s=21

Rogers says she tested DNA found in #SuzanneMorphew car and listed it as "foreign" and that she believed the car to be connected to the incident and left from the perpetrator of the crime. @KKTV11News #BarryMorphew

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/ashleykktv/status/1458214202586374154?s=21

Judge Murphy says he's a bit lost in what the argument is that defense attorneys are trying to get across here. Prosecutors say they're not sure why they're here for this hearing.
Defense says they're trying to prove there was withholding of exculpatory evidence. @KKTV11News

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/ashleykktv/status/1458214202586374154?s=21

Judge Murphy says he's a bit lost in what the argument is that defense attorneys are trying to get across here. Prosecutors say they're not sure why they're here for this hearing.
Defense says they're trying to prove there was withholding of exculpatory evidence. @KKTV11News

Hahahahhahahahahha. I'm dead.

That's when you know things aren't going well.

 

[Love Never Fails]

This hearing is the defense asking for sanctions against the prosecutor right?
Can the defense ask for and receive these hearings from now to May?
Very boring so far. Makes me feel for the judge.

 

[Megnut]

https://twitter.com/ashleykktv/status/1458208955381993472?s=21

Rogers says she tested DNA found in #SuzanneMorphew car and listed it as "foreign" and that she believed the car to be connected to the incident and left from the perpetrator of the crime. @KKTV11News #BarryMorphew

The crime of Oil Change?

But of course foreign DNA should be tested in relation to the crime.

It would've been dereliction not to.

Tested and eliminated.

IMO

 

[DizzyB]

https://twitter.com/ashleykktv/status/1458208955381993472?s=21

Rogers says she tested DNA found in #SuzanneMorphew car and listed it as "foreign" and that she believed the car to be connected to the incident and left from the perpetrator of the crime. @KKTV11News #BarryMorphew

Sorry but that’s the conclusion she drew? Perpetrator of the crime? So the person who took Suzanne touched the glove box of her car but nothing else?