Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #87

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  • #421
@Cindizzi posted the photos in Thread 44, Post #376, if anyone's interested in seeing the listing photo as of October, 2020.

It's definitely a brown towel. Not taupe. Not beige. Not espresso. Brown.

JMO
I would believe the towel was brown because it was “Barry’s” home, in HIS mind. The home had the look of being decorated by a man, IMO. Nothing feminine. Nothing Suzanne would enjoy.
My first home, my first marriage. Lots of brown. Lots of deer heads and horns. Lots of everything HIS way.
Unfortunately, there are many “Barry’s” in this world. One is too many. IMO.
 
  • #422
I'm sorry I googled "deer tranq dart" and watched a video. So hard to watch.

The stun. The stagger. The collapse.

That anyone might even consider do that to a human being, let alone a lived one, breaks me.

JMO

 
  • #423
The photos would have been staged and taken by the listing agent. I don't think they moved back into PP before putting it up for sale. Note the other rooms have no personalized decor and MM2 lived with Barry through all of that.

I agree while-heaetedly about listing and staging and we saw that, in the listing that remains viewable, you see rolled towels and neutral accessories, but IMO that came later. The very first photos looked very cellphony.

JMO
 
  • #424
The photos would have been staged and taken by the listing agent. I don't think they moved back into PP before putting it up for sale. Note the other rooms have no personalized decor and MM2 lived with Barry through all of that.

I agree while-heaetedly about listing and staging and we saw that, in the listing that remains viewable, you see rolled towels and neutral accessories, but IMO that came later. The very first photos looked very cellphonery.

JMO
 
  • #425
Are you saying you think helmet was put into roadside bush later? Who do you think would do that and why?
I'm not sure. It's puzzling that is was not discovered earlier. Even Andy mentioned on PE that they walked in that exact location and could have stepped on it and didn't see it. A blue helmet no less. The sequencing of Barry driving west to Garfield then turning around and heading back and tossing it "works" from a tracking function as I don't think it was heaved across 50 heading west...and in the Barry scenario that would have been Sunday morning, but I'm bothered that it wasn't found for so long....I guess for me it would depend on "how" the helmet was labeled inside if it was simply paper taped into the helmet then I would want to know if it was in pen or Sharpie, if it was fresh or had been exposed to moisture, if the helmet was inside up or inside facing down that sorta stuff. That is my whole dilemma with this case....there is often plausible alternative scenarios. The only facts so far are tracking data and telematics. Some of which are damning and some of which could have plausible alternative explanations.
 
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  • #426
Agree that the towels were brown just plain old brown. What is interesting to me is that anyone would know one was missing. I'm not sure anyone in my family but me knows how many towels we even have of a particular color let alone if one were "missing". I'm wondering who "reported" a missing towel and who could verify that one was actually missing. It's intriguing if indeed "one" is missing but doesn't seem to have been something prosecution so far as pointed out so makes me wonder if the missing towel ended up being accounted for.

According to the AA page 118

"Regarding his trip to get a backhoe on Saturday, May 9th and why he needed a backhoe that day; where the towel Suzanne was lying in her last photo on might be located (not recovered at house)"...

I don't see the investigators bringing in unnecessary confusion and questioning because they didn't look for a towel in enough places, it was obviously gone. Doubt it ended up being accounted for. I am sure there was something unique about the towel, be it monogrammed, from a resort, or whatever. It could have been a beach towel.(oversized)to fit her chair. If it wasn't something unique, there could have been zero brown towels in the house when they looked. Did they have that last proof of life picture before discovering Jeff?
There were only 4 things to look for Suzanne, the towel, the chair, her swimsuit, I don't think it was later accounted for, IMO, they definitely knew it was gone.
 
  • #427
Unfortunately, its a totality of evidence case. That is why he was granted bail.
 
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I'm not sure. It's puzzling that is was not discovered earlier. Even Andy mentioned on PE that they walked in that exact location and could have stepped on it and didn't see it. A blue helmet no less. The sequencing of Barry driving west to Garfield then turning around and heading back and tossing it "works" from a tracking function as I don't think it was heaved across 50 heading west...and in the Barry scenario that would have been Sunday morning, but I'm bothered that it wasn't found for so long....I guess for me it would depend on "how" the helmet was labeled inside if it was simply paper taped into the helmet then I would want to know if it was in pen or Sharpie, if it was fresh or had been exposed to moisture, if the helmet was inside up or inside facing down that sorta stuff. That is my whole dilemma with this case....there is often plausible alternative scenarios. The only facts so far are tracking data and telematics. Some of which are damning and some of which could have plausible alternative explanations.

IIRC, wasn't there chatter of a friend of BM's suddenly disappearing on a search and then reappearing a while later? Pretty sure Andy mentioned this and was reported on PE? imo

ETA, will try and find
 
  • #429
Maybe, but wouldn't local deputies know what red clay is? Because of the way they are listed in the AA, I think they were noted by three different individuals.

I wondered about doe scent and other attractants ... is there anything in that wheelhouse that might stain reddish-brown? I think they're illegal in CO, but so are the tranqs.
These investigators are professionals and make no assumptions. And yes they know red clay -- they've probably been cleaning it off their own cars and floors for decades. :)
 
  • #430
How many brown wash cloths? Four. Brown hand towels? 4. Brown bath towels? 3.

What color towel was in the pic? Brown.

Probably the girls, but in a round about way. When Suzanne shopped for home stuff, did she buy sets or mix and match? That kind of thing.

Didn't Barry say when discussing/describing Suzanne's biking clothes- something to the effect of Suzanne was matchy- matchy??? So, maybe all matching towels? Also, does anyone recall the Daily Mail pics of LE bringing out evidence? One item was brown in a plastic bag- I had thought it might be a piece of the master bedroom carpet which was also brown. I would have thought this would have been prior to finding the last proof of life photo, so I still think it was a piece of carpet.

But also, if I am going to lay out I always grab a beach towel not a bath towel....and those in my house don't match. They are usually one of a kind.
 
  • #431
I would believe the towel was brown because it was “Barry’s” home, in HIS mind. The home had the look of being decorated by a man, IMO. Nothing feminine. Nothing Suzanne would enjoy.
My first home, my first marriage. Lots of brown. Lots of deer heads and horns. Lots of everything HIS way.
Unfortunately, there are many “Barry’s” in this world. One is too many. IMO.
Their prior home has very similar decor inside even though their prior home was less lodge looking on the exterior. I think you are seeing what they both liked frankly...neutral tones, lodge decor etc. It's a style and not unusual and crosses that line of not being too precious feminine and not southwest style that was ubiquitous in the 80s. Think ski resort and that was the interior of the Indiana home and the Puma Path home. I'm rather fond of lodge style but with lighter kitchens and baths to be honest and more jewel tones for accent and didn't care for the kitchens and baths in either of their homes but loved the living space, and definitely interior design is a very individual thing.
 
  • #432
Their prior home has very similar decor inside even though their prior home was less lodge looking on the exterior. I think you are seeing what they both liked frankly...neutral tones, lodge decor etc. It's a style and not unusual and crosses that line of not being too precious feminine and not southwest style that was ubiquitous in the 80s. Think ski resort and that was the interior of the Indiana home and the Puma Path home. I'm rather fond of lodge style but with lighter kitchens and baths to be honest and more jewel tones for accent and didn't care for the kitchens and baths in either of their homes but loved the living space, and definitely interior design is a very individual thing.

I like lodge style if I am in a lodge. If they had ten previous homes, they would all look like Barry. Suzanne wasn’t into hunting. He was. Neutral is nice but it’s what you do with it. I seriously doubt any of the decorations had to do with what her desires were. I believe her life was lived for him until an awakening in 2018, when she tired of everything being about him. I believe her love turned into strong dislike, discontent and wanting to be free of him.
And he wasn’t having any of it.
 
  • #433
Brown Towel?
Can someone pls refresh my memory about the brown towel's significance? My apologies if I'm overlooking something obvious.

While sunbathing on Sat. afternoon, SM sent a pic of self, showing the brown towel, to Jeff L???
If so, that pic w towel helps LE/prosecutor to estab the last time SM was known to be alive, presumably by pic's timestamp or the transmission's timestamp when sent to JL.
That is, other than BM's claims re SM still alive Sun a.m.

What's the significance of towel not being located? Just that if missing, it's because BM used for a :eek:nefarious purpose:eek:??? Or significant for a different reason? TiA
 
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Brown Towel?
Can someone pls refresh my memory about the brown towel's significance? My apologies if I'm overlooking something obvious.

While sunbathing on Sat. afternoon, SM sent a pic of self, showing the brown towel, to Jeff L???
If so, that pic w towel helps LE/prosecutor to estab the last time SM was known to be alive, presumably by pic's timestamp or the transmission's timestamp when sent to JL.
That is, other than BM's claims re SM still alive Sun a.m.

What's the significance of towel not being located? Just that if missing, it's because BM used for a :eek:nefarious purpose:eek:??? Or significant for a different reason? TiA

I think the significance is that something in a photo of Suzanne's last known activity hasn't been located. It can't be missing IMO accidentally.

I think the towel is tied to the timeline. And the circumstance.

Why did he get rid of it?

If he tranquilized Suzanne while she was still sunbathing (which isn't my working theory), perhaps the towel had blood on it. Reason for disposal. But wouldn't he have had to discard the swimwear, for the same reason? Her sunbathing was NOT a factor in his created story. We don't know whether he was aware of her conversation with JL or the photo sharing that day and IMO wasn't trying to build a credible storyline for the Saturday but only the biking scenario on Sunday. Without that photo, only Barry would've known which one she was wearing. So, if he felt he needed to disappear her swimsuit in the same way he did the towel, once questioned, he could say she was sunbathing in shorts and a tee or whatever invention he chose.

I don't see Barry taking the time to hang up her swimsuit. Again, I don't think he was creating a day for Suzanne, to mimic her living in it. Or he'd have made the side dish, set the table for two, as if. Sent some texts on her behalf.

He didn't do that.

IMO he NEVER intended for ANYONE to ask about Saturday. Just Sunday. Where he intended to be well out of town, when his bike narrative would play out.

My theory --

In short,

The swimsuit did not feature in the crime.

(I think Suzanne took it off herself. And hung it up. Before 2:47.)

But the towel did.

And that's why it's missing.

JMO
 
  • #435
The photos would have been staged and taken by the listing agent. I don't think they moved back into PP before putting it up for sale. Note the other rooms have no personalized decor and MM2 lived with Barry through all of that.

The first photos were amateurish in the extreme. Almost as if someone clumsy, cheap, and in a hurry wanted to unload property without having to pay a realtor.
 
  • #436
I think the significance is that something in a photo of Suzanne's last known activity hasn't been located. It can't be missing IMO accidentally.

I think the towel is tied to the timeline. And the circumstance.

Why did he get rid of it?

If he tranquilized Suzanne while she was still sunbathing (which isn't my working theory), perhaps the towel had blood on it. Reason for disposal. But wouldn't he have had to discard the swimwear, for the same reason? Her sunbathing was NOT a factor in his created story. We don't know whether he was aware of her conversation with JL or the photo sharing that day and IMO wasn't trying to build a credible storyline for the Saturday but only the biking scenario on Sunday. Without that photo, only Barry would've known which one she was wearing. So, if he felt he needed to disappear her swimsuit in the same way he did the towel, once questioned, he could say she was sunbathing in shorts and a tee or whatever invention he chose.

I don't see Barry taking the time to hang up her swimsuit. Again, I don't think he was creating a day for Suzanne, to mimic her living in it. Or he'd have made the side dish, set the table for two, as if. Sent some texts on her behalf.

He didn't do that.

IMO he NEVER intended for ANYONE to ask about Saturday. Just Sunday. Where he intended to be well out of town, when his bike narrative would play out.

My theory --

In short,

The swimsuit did not feature in the crime.

(I think Suzanne took it off herself. And hung it up. Before 2:47.)

But the towel did.

And that's why it's missing.

JMO

Megnut you have been on fire lately! I hope the prosecution team is reading all your witty and dead-on gems!
 
  • #437
Silt, a fine granular substance, can also take on reddish clay looking color and is generally carried by the water and deposited and when it dries would be a reddish brownish "blood" looking color. I cannot imagine LE would eliminate anything unless they had very good reason to. Ironic that this came up as we were just discussing the difference between clay and silt on Thanksgivng with our geo-tech/civil engineering kid.

So, potentially the color of dirt/clay/silt that might have been found on the boots that got trashed in Broomfield...
 
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Silt, a fine granular substance, can also take on reddish clay looking color and is generally carried by the water and deposited and when it dries would be a reddish brownish "blood" looking color. I cannot imagine LE would eliminate anything unless they had very good reason to. Ironic that this came up as we were just discussing the difference between clay and silt on Thanksgivng with our geo-tech/civil engineering kid.

So, potentially the color of dirt/clay/silt that might have been found on the boots that got trashed in Broomfield...
 
  • #440
Gah!

You can see what I saw if you Google scent neutralizer for hunting/dressing. Buy it by the gallon. Removes animal blood.

My search history is disturbing.

Thanks to B.

JMO
 
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