Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #88

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  • #321
I got this:

“I’m just so sad and MM1 and I texted mom for Mother’s Day and she still hasn’t answered and I’m scared her and dad probably got in a big fight and I don’t even know it just made me want to be gone even more because I don’t want to be around them it hurts me and I know if REDACTED is working I might have to be home a lot more and it’ll probably be the worst summer of my life.” - MM2 One hour before Suzanne was reported missing.

That's the whole case, right there.
bbm
^^ This. :(
 
  • #322
That's when he checked on his dear prolly.

JMO
:p
Suzanne's cancer treatment would have been a thirst stretch. There are more prollies in his past, I believe. Strange, that nobody found them until now. Downright mysterious. IMO
 
  • #323
bbm red
How so? I thought, Suzanne had chauffeured MM2 to Gunnison to MM1's address for the camping trip?? MM1 must have seen her mum because of this meeting (and MM2 must have seen her mum anyway).

I can simply report what is in the PC AA

I cannot say for certain it's truth; however, your question is a valid one. The OP answer was that they 'hadn't seen mom since late April'. Correct?

:shrugs:
 
  • #324
I was reading the AA again today and noticed a few things (that might not amount to much in the scheme of things) but are interesting nonetheless.

Barry has no insight and is only moderately knowledgeable about one subject. Hunting. Each time he had to alter his original statement because of new evidence presented to him, he fell back on blaming an animal. A mountain lion got Suzanne morphed into she was thrown in the river and got hung up under a beaver dam. He was really chasing a turkey when he initially claimed to have lunch with Suzanne. He was following elk when he turned left instead of right. He was shooting chipmunks, not chasing Suzanne with a tranquilizer dart. A tranquilizer dart he claims he used to sedate deer so he could hack off their racks. Pig.

The blaming of Suzanne is beyond appalling. “Drunk eyes” ugh. He first told LE that they had a wonderful afternoon/evening because she wasn’t drunk or high. Oops.

He claims to be completely shocked by Suzanne’s affair. He’s a “godly” man and when he married, it was for life. Well, murdering Suzanne took care of that little problem. The “godly” man never searched for hot girls in Salida, looked for a girlfriend watched 🤬🤬🤬🤬 online. He claims someone must have planted that stuff on his phone. The “godly” man was busy flirting with a woman at the gym to the point he made her uncomfortable. He also tried to cop a couple of feels off Suzanne’s friend.

I will never believe Barry didn’t know about the affair. IMO the real reason he persisted in asking the Agents for a name was because he had searched Libler’s name before and/or after Suzanne was murdered and he was afraid LE knew it. He had to act shocked and demand to know who it was.

There are two invisible turkey hunts. On the evening of the 8th when he was standing by the river and sending out all of those friend requests including three guys named Jeff. And early afternoon of the 9th when he was taking down the trail cams all the way over by the RV Park.

You can see why I ended up making the AA easily searchable. Every time you think you've figured out what he was up to, you get whacked with a boomerang from two sections ago.

I've come to think Barry realized exactly who his wife was seeing sometime after getting the "I'm done" text on the 6th. Before that he was suspicious that she was seeing someone, but Suzanne was a champion secret keeper. Somewhere in the fight she must have slipped and he started putting the pieces together and he knew he wasn't going to pacify her this time. Suzanne had a "Jeff" in her past, and Barry knew him:

In the summer after JL’s first year of college in Indiana, he attended a party with some friends at Suzanne’s house. Barry and Suzanne were a couple, but Barry was not at the party. JL said he and Suzanne “kinda hooked up, not really,” at the party. JL played golf almost daily at the time and Barry worked on the golf course.

Barry found out about JL and Suzanne hooking up at the party. Upon seeing JL on the golf course, Barry “jumped off the tractor and he was ready to beat me down.” JL told Barry, “You’re gonna lose your job. You’re gonna lose everything.” JL talked him out of it and that was the last interaction JL had with Barry. (AA)
 
  • #325
bbm red
How so? I thought, Suzanne had chauffeured MM2 to Gunnison to MM1's address for the camping trip?? MM1 must have seen her mum because of this meeting (and MM2 must have seen her mum anyway).

I've wondered about it, too. We were in the middle of COVID lockdown and Suzanne was finishing chemo. They may have been being especially careful since MM1 was at school and not part of the pod.
 
  • #326
So who believes the judge will refuse himself?
I don’t believe he will.

Murphy has proven to be cautious. Most Judges don't want to see their cases overturned, some work very hard to ensure there aren't any wide open paths. If Murphy stays on the case, it's an automatic appeal. So far he has toed the letter of Colorado law, I expect him to continue to do so.

We used to have an Atty General who was insanely nit-picky about the wording of whatever ballot measure/etc you wanted to submit. Seriously down to the word tense or comma placement, would send it back. He didn't want to have to defend it in court, so he demanded absolute clarity of language in all submissions. As long as the language was clear, he would approve it for the next step.
 
  • #327
I have to wonder about that theory. Barry was the more fundamental non drinking etc Christian or so it is reported. He could have been the harder, put his foot down, boundary setting parent to two teenage daughters and Suzanne the more lenient. Sometimes they are because they are raising daughters and remember what it was like as a teenage boy. There really are no facts to go. Again has really nothing to do with the case but interesting to see people project their thoughts about two people very few of us know.

Odd parenting though, to raise your daughter's virginity at the dining table, pretty damn creepy imo
 
  • #328
Murphy has proven to be cautious. Most Judges don't want to see their cases overturned, some work very hard to ensure there aren't any wide open paths. If Murphy stays on the case, it's an automatic appeal. So far he has toed the letter of Colorado law, I expect him to continue to do so.

There is the possibility that if the Judge does not recuse, then the defence can appeal that procedural point immediately pre-trial. That restricts their ability to raise it on appeal post trial - some specific unfairness would have to result at trial.

Personally i suspect this is a bogus application - but maybe the Judge's clerk will find some US authority on this.
 
  • #329
Anyone want to listen to the PH via Ms Paula reading the court docs?

* Note: Only court document transcripts by the Plunder YT Channel are allowed.

"Chase me around the resort & threaten."
Suzanne Morphew list of Barry grievances
Sept 19, 2021

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When I see him on this video home page:
Btw, BM's optics have suffered a lot. It doesn't seem to have been such an easy job to make the woman disappear, to destroy the evidence, to lie to family and friends all the time, to lie to LE at least 23 times, to "manage" the fortune and to make money. Now nobody is washing for him his shorts/pants with little secrets in the pockets, nobody writing his bills, nobody waiting for him with vegetable soup or steak, nobody offering a daily target like Suzanne did (unless SD has taken over all that). AND an ankle cuff! -
Has he already harvested his fir tree for nothing?
 
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  • #330
I've wondered about it, too. We were in the middle of COVID lockdown and Suzanne was finishing chemo. They may have been being especially careful since MM1 was at school and not part of the pod.

Perhaps more than the middle of covid had passed by the first of May. Most of the country had been under some sort of lockdown since the end of FEB. The Morphews had been under lockdown restrictions for 9 weeks which is an incredibly long time when considering the loss of freedoms suffered.

Perhaps the intriguing trip, leaving Suzanne alone with Barry, was sort of a reward for being enclosed in isolation so an out of state camping trip was developed, perhaps by staying in a friend's cabin or renting a chalet.

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  • #331
There are two invisible turkey hunts. On the evening of the 8th when he was standing by the river and sending out all of those friend requests including three guys named Jeff. And early afternoon of the 9th when he was taking down the trail cams all the way over by the RV Park.

You can see why I ended up making the AA easily searchable. Every time you think you've figured out what he was up to, you get whacked with a boomerang from two sections ago.

I've come to think Barry realized exactly who his wife was seeing sometime after getting the "I'm done" text on the 6th. Before that he was suspicious that she was seeing someone, but Suzanne was a champion secret keeper. Somewhere in the fight she must have slipped and he started putting the pieces together and he knew he wasn't going to pacify her this time. Suzanne had a "Jeff" in her past, and Barry knew him:

In the summer after JL’s first year of college in Indiana, he attended a party with some friends at Suzanne’s house. Barry and Suzanne were a couple, but Barry was not at the party. JL said he and Suzanne “kinda hooked up, not really,” at the party. JL played golf almost daily at the time and Barry worked on the golf course.

Barry found out about JL and Suzanne hooking up at the party. Upon seeing JL on the golf course, Barry “jumped off the tractor and he was ready to beat me down.” JL told Barry, “You’re gonna lose your job. You’re gonna lose everything.” JL talked him out of it and that was the last interaction JL had with Barry. (AA)

Bbm

Actually Barry brought another animal into the ark of blame. If I remember right, Friday night the 8th, when he was down by the river, he was looking for A BEAR, the bear that had broken into his garage once. And coyotes.

I think the prosecution adjusted their theory-- from Barry accessing Suzanne's Facebook to Suzanne doing it herself. Me, I'm not sure who did it but I'm certain it had everything to do with JL. Somehow Barry learned there was a Jeff IMO. So Suzanne tried to add a bunch of Jeffs amid a pile of men or, in trying to gain access to Suzanne's friends, Barry triggered a bunch of friend requests accidentally.

I'm intrigued by the mystery device. Why was he using it? With whom was he communicating? Is LE certain he didn't have other mystery devices? In the former case, I think he simply used a discarded cellphone within the household.

Did he have an unknown device for Google searches, sketchy websites, dumpster meet ups? Was he skilled in borrowing other people's phones for a hot minute and then deleting his action?

He knows something about SIM cards. Frankly that surprises me.

Perhaps we'll hear more about deleted internet searches at trial.

JMO
 
  • #332
So in an old post, I asked if you all thought the judge would recuse himself. Someone answered me and I noticed I had typed “refuse” instead of recuse. Sorry about that. My laptop died and I’m using an iPhone. It may have a mind of its own. :D
 
  • #333
So in an old post, I asked if you all thought the judge would recuse himself. Someone answered me and I noticed I had typed “refuse” instead of recuse. Sorry about that. My laptop died and I’m using an iPhone. It may have a mind of its own. :D

It will be interesting what the judge does but I think it's likely he will. IMO

TO CLARIFY: Sean McDermott is a family friend to Judge Patrick Murphy. They went to the same high school, Murphy went to his wedding, & see each other frequently. McDermott law firm partner Martin Stuart is representing #ShoshonaDarke who’s a potential witness in #BarryMorphew case.

https://twitter.com/LaurenScharfTV?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
 
  • #334
There are two invisible turkey hunts. On the evening of the 8th when he was standing by the river and sending out all of those friend requests including three guys named Jeff. And early afternoon of the 9th when he was taking down the trail cams all the way over by the RV Park.

You can see why I ended up making the AA easily searchable. Every time you think you've figured out what he was up to, you get whacked with a boomerang from two sections ago.

I've come to think Barry realized exactly who his wife was seeing sometime after getting the "I'm done" text on the 6th. Before that he was suspicious that she was seeing someone, but Suzanne was a champion secret keeper. Somewhere in the fight she must have slipped and he started putting the pieces together and he knew he wasn't going to pacify her this time. Suzanne had a "Jeff" in her past, and Barry knew him:

In the summer after JL’s first year of college in Indiana, he attended a party with some friends at Suzanne’s house. Barry and Suzanne were a couple, but Barry was not at the party. JL said he and Suzanne “kinda hooked up, not really,” at the party. JL played golf almost daily at the time and Barry worked on the golf course.

Barry found out about JL and Suzanne hooking up at the party. Upon seeing JL on the golf course, Barry “jumped off the tractor and he was ready to beat me down.” JL told Barry, “You’re gonna lose your job. You’re gonna lose everything.” JL talked him out of it and that was the last interaction JL had with Barry. (AA)
Sounds to me that Barry had quite a temper. His problem was with Suzanne, not Jeff. Barry should have known way back then that he couldn’t control Suzanne. Yet he attempted to for years much to his dismay and it hurt both of them. He isn’t someone who can let go. What a shame.
 
  • #335
It will be interesting what the judge does but I think it's likely he will. IMO

TO CLARIFY: Sean McDermott is a family friend to Judge Patrick Murphy. They went to the same high school, Murphy went to his wedding, & see each other frequently. McDermott law firm partner Martin Stuart is representing #ShoshonaDarke who’s a potential witness in #BarryMorphew case.

https://twitter.com/LaurenScharfTV?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
It will be so difficult if he does and another judge would need to be appointed.

I’m sure the defense knows Barry is going to prison and all these delays just gives him a little more time of freedom, such as it is. He should be in a cell and the defense knows that.
 
  • #336
No, in Barry's own interviews he claimed over and over and over he loved her. Prosecution is not going down some of the rabbit holes we do and they can't attack his character by law with very, very few exceptions. We can chat about his character flaws or speculate he's got some personality trait that doesn't allow him to love, all that stuff but trying a man for murdering his wife is very different. Grusing is right...we don't know. LE doesn't know and the prosecutor's office doesn't know if he genuinely loved her.
And to that definition of love.... love is different for all. BM may very well have had, in his own wacko brain, his own definition of love, but the majority of us see it as controlling, self serving, narcissistic. The evidence points towards this behavior. GUILTY. MOO. Lets not get caught up in what constitutes love.
 
  • #337
bbm red
How so? I thought, Suzanne had chauffeured MM2 to Gunnison to MM1's address for the camping trip?? MM1 must have seen her mum because of this meeting (and MM2 must have seen her mum anyway).
Do we know how long the camping trip was?

If the camping trip was longish, say a full week plus 2 days driving in each direction, and if SM brought MM2 to MM1's house a few days before they left on the trip, that might have been enough to push it back to the end of April.

MOO
 
  • #338
Do we know how long the camping trip was?

If the camping trip was longish, say a full week plus 2 days driving in each direction, and if SM brought MM2 to MM1's house a few days before they left on the trip, that might have been enough to push it back to the end of April.

MOO

Suzanne dropped MM2 off on the 5th. Originally there was some discussion of the scheduled return date. The AA says they were due back on the 10th, so we're going to go with that as it is sourced. We know very little about the road trip, but I think we all want to know who's idea it was. Knowing could certainly affect the timeline.


Btw, still working on those Plunder transcripts. If I ever murder someone, I'm hiring Nielsen. You'll know I'm guilty because I hired her, but if I'm smarter than Barry, I think she could get me off. The jury is going to have to stay on it's toes. She seems to be asking perfectly reasonable questions, but actually shes trying to be force Grusing into the answer she wants to hear. It's skillful and infuriating.

Honestly, Lindsey is a much better attorney. But the reporting we got from the PH was really skewed because Nielsen just barrels past what she doesn't want to hear.
 
  • #339
And to that definition of love.... love is different for all. BM may very well have had, in his own wacko brain, his own definition of love, but the majority of us see it as controlling, self serving, narcissistic. The evidence points towards this behavior. GUILTY. MOO. Lets not get caught up in what constitutes love.
I don't see why we shouldn't be concerned as to Barry's repeated exclamations of love and marital bliss.
We know they didn't have a 'perfect marriage', she was ready to divorce him and he knew it too. Why believe he 'loved her'? After all, he lied multiple times to LE about everything.
eta: While not the most integral aspect of the prosecution's case, his lies about the state of their marriage and the fact that she was leaving him are consistent with his motive to murder her and I believe they will factor in the trial.
Love isn't 'semantic'. Neither is murder.
etaa: I'm mostly agreeing with you, @gamma gal. Barry loved one person... Barry.

eta yet again:
I've been hesitant to bring this up but I've wondered about Barry's affairs as they were alluded to by both her sister and best friend.
The Epstein-Barr Virus can cause Hodgkin's Lymphoma. EBV is sexually transmitted yet the host can be fully asymptomatic.
From the Mayo Clinic:
"Epstein-Barr infection. People who have had illnesses caused by the Epstein-Barr virus, such as infectious mononucleosis, are more likely to develop Hodgkin's lymphoma than are people who haven't had Epstein-Barr infections."
Just a thought that's been on my mind.
 
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  • #340
MOO MOO BM manic and creepy.
Nothing in SMs behavior is odd or creepy.
They moved to Puma Path, she asked him to home more and instead he joined the VFD, which is a big time commitment in addition to work. Within few months she was reaching out to JL.
 
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